This is exactly why I dont play alliance anymore. How dare you ask me to help wreck a guild I supported and cared about? One that has shown you loyalty and friendship One that I endorsed to you as a good place to be. You call yourselves my friends and yet you would insult me with thinking I would be involved in something so underhanded.


If you want to split from your current guild, split. Dont infiltrate and destroy from within until youre all geared and ready to go straight to TK and BT. Man up. People come and go from guilds all the time. But to knowlingly plan to incapacitate a guild is total bull%@**. All you are doing is setting yourselves up for failure because everyone will point at you and say "GG Last Stand vs 2.0"

You know who you are. You also know that as my friend, I dont pull punches when I think youre acting like an !!!@#@@. No i wont name names because I dont need to. Some of them troll these forums and it will get back to the rest of them. You probably wont ever want to speak to me again. That simply tells me that you KNOW youre being a douchebag and not manning up about wanting to leave your current guild.

What i will say is this: to the last few pre TBC alliance raiding guilds out there.. be real weary of any new cliques forming within.

To my prodigal friends: You insulted me. When its all said and done, I hope youre happy. Im sure you wont ever speak to me again. But should you ever come to me as an actual friend, I am here for you.

Thats how I roll.

you know you came here to spoon with coppa ;)

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you know you came here to spoon with coppa ;)

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coppa will get a kick out of this one when he reads it though. Its part of the reason he went full time horde as well.

/nachos

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/nachos

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yes please!

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This is exactly why I dont play alliance anymore. How dare you ask me to help wreck a guild I supported and cared about? One that has shown you loyalty and friendship One that I endorsed to you as a good place to be. You call yourselves my friends and yet you would insult me with thinking I would be involved in something so underhanded.


If you want to split from your current guild, split. Dont infiltrate and destroy from within until youre all geared and ready to go straight to TK and BT. Man up. People come and go from guilds all the time. But to knowlingly plan to incapacitate a guild is total bull%@**. All you are doing is setting yourselves up for failure because everyone will point at you and say "GG Last Stand vs 2.0"

You know who you are. You also know that as my friend, I dont pull punches when I think youre acting like an !!!@#@@. No i wont name names because I dont need to. Some of them troll these forums and it will get back to the rest of them. You probably wont ever want to speak to me again. That simply tells me that you KNOW youre being a douchebag and not manning up about wanting to leave your current guild.

What i will say is this: to the last few pre TBC alliance raiding guilds out there.. be real weary of any new cliques forming within.

To my prodigal friends: You insulted me. When its all said and done, I hope youre happy. Im sure you wont ever speak to me again. But should you ever come to me as an actual friend, I am here for you.

Thats how I roll.

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This must come under the heading of

BRONZEBEARD DRAMA:

Peepul r bad


Since I don't know the people involved, I choose to believe they saw things were not going in the most efficient manner, and opted to get like minded people to join together for common cause. In the course of human affairs, while assiduously working towards old guild progression, they ended up with their fair share of epics. I'm sure you join me in wishing them well for the future.


Or we can go with your version.

<3

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<3

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Well I hope you don't feel that you need to stop playing allance tottaly. Though I wish there wasn't as much drama here as there is. I know you had hard choice on your hands, and though I am not a great mind in making such big decidtion.

But I think you'll you make the right choice. Plus I will support you any direction your deside I know want what best for ever one. Your a cool guy electo I might not be brillant mind but I alway have time help you were I can friend simple cuss that how I roll.

All and all I really hope ever thing works out for the best I hope you still see you in game now in then.

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This must come under the heading of

BRONZEBEARD DRAMA:

Peepul r bad


Since I don't know the people involved, I choose to believe they saw things were not going in the most efficient manner, and opted to get like minded people to join together for common cause. In the course of human affairs, while assiduously working towards old guild progression, they ended up with their fair share of epics. I'm sure you join me in wishing them well for the future.


Or we can go with your version.

<3

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You know, i could understand if they wanted to break clean and start fresh. Its the nature of TBC guilds now. But to make plans to keep level 1 placeholders in a guild and then all leave at one time and actually use the phrase "leave a guild crippled", then no I dont respect that. I went back to vent with one of them and told them exactly what I felt about thier little plan. It made me happy to see that they actually agreed about my side of it. Hopefully the others will see it this way as well and either choose to try to fix the guild they are in, or will make a clean and honest break. Because while noone likes losing members, especially not a big chunk, you can still respect and befriend those that leave if bridges arent burned.

you obviously want some attention and drama. thats annoying. then to add "not naming names". that was weaksauce

who the f cares

Hey Tard....! I need help...read the Sig..I need a home!

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you obviously want some attention and drama. thats annoying. then to add "not naming names". that was weaksauce

who the f cares

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/pets the troll

You know youre kinda right. I do want some attention here. I want it known that I dont endorse @*#%!!@ moves. At least I have the balls to do it on my main.

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You know, i could understand if they wanted to break clean and start fresh. Its the nature of TBC guilds now. But to make plans to keep level 1 placeholders in a guild and then all leave at one time and actually use the phrase "leave a guild crippled", then no I dont respect that. I went back to vent with one of them and told them exactly what I felt about thier little plan. It made me happy to see that they actually agreed about my side of it. Hopefully the others will see it this way as well and either choose to try to fix the guild they are in, or will make a clean and honest break. Because while noone likes losing members, especially not a big chunk, you can still respect and befriend those that leave if bridges arent burned.

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Well, I'm sure it's none of my business...I'm good with that...but I may be misunderstanding. Are you saying that these people are taking out there level 70s, and leaving level 1 toons in the guild? I don't think the officers will miss that one, and I'm not sure of the point. Are they leaving because they feel they've been treated badly? Off they go, no harm, no foul. Are they leaving to be vindictive and cruel? Unlikely, but are those your friends if so? What could possibly be the point of a group saying " we've been treated fairly and respectfully, so in return, let's stick it in and break it off!!!"

I don't think that actually happened.

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ITT: dumb.

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Hi Beefy!!!!!

i wouldnt say its balls, id say its a need for attention again. you always post random crap in hopes for a 7 page thread. if youre so insecure that you have to post "omg everyone. im a good person. dont believe the stuff you hear" when no one has heard anything becasue you are the only one that posted something here about it, you have another problem all together.
i dont think people care. you were so 6 months ago

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ITT: Opet

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Uh oh I've been spottified!

*flees from searchlight*

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Well, I'm sure it's none of my business...I'm good with that...but I may be misunderstanding. Are you saying that these people are taking out there level 70s, and leaving level 1 toons in the guild? I don't think the officers will miss that one, and I'm not sure of the point. Are they leaving because they feel they've been treated badly? Off they go, no harm, no foul. Are they leaving to be vindictive and cruel? Unlikely, but are those your friends if so? What could possibly be the point of a group saying " we've been treated fairly and respectfully, so in return, let's stick it in and break it off!!!"

I don't think that actually happened.

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They are planning on creating a guild with level 1 toons and laying low in thier current guild while they recruit and continue to get loot. Once they have enough people willing to jump ship at once, they are planning to all leave at one time so they can not miss a beat raiding. As one said 'I dont want to screw around actually having to recruit people after we are up and running.' That was what pissed me off so badly.