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Tressed

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Shadowsong

0. The old Blue response and the new 04/14/2007 11:16:16 AM PDT

Ages ago I posted a series of questions on the shaman forum and got a response from Tseric.
I light of the new patch I would like to pose them again they were...

1) What role does blizzard see the shaman in in burning crusade (now I suppose just the game in general) from both PVE and PVP perspectives?

2) Are there any plans for the replacement/improvement of the 41 point elemental talent?

3) Are there any plans for the replacement/ improvement of the elemental totems?

4) Are there any plans for giving us some more active abilities as opposed to the mostly passive repertoire
we seem to be receiving?

5) In general, what's in the works for the shaman???

and Tseric responded to them:

1. Never a cut and dry response for roles, classes and particularly hybrids, but I'll just say 'melee/dps', which would probably not come as a surprise to many. Shaman have always had something more of a leaning towards PvP than PvE, which should also not come as a surprise.

2. Nothing I know of in the way of 'total revamp wow new improved' stuff. Perhaps some tuning of things, but for the most part this will be the base from which further adjustments or additions could be made, post-BC release.

3. Don't know at this time. I can inquire further.

4. Think this is kind of a restating of the number 2 question. reply number 2 still applies.

5. Well, at the start, it appeared that players saw Elemental as the strongest spec. Improvements to Resto and Enhancement have brought more attention and favor to those trees. Elemental saw comparitavely less buffing, but doesn't that sound like something approaching balance between the trees?

I would be very much obliged by some new answers to these questions.
thank you in advance.

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1. Re: Quick questions 04/14/2007 11:24:27 AM PDT

Ok new question, has anyone else recieved the uncanny ability to bring death to all threads?

If so, how do you turn it off?

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3. Re: Quick questions 04/14/2007 12:10:34 PM PDT

Q u o t e:
Pie makes my tummy feel good.

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4. Re: Quick questions 04/14/2007 12:33:02 PM PDT

posting to show title change from "a quick question" to current title

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5. Re: Quick questions 04/14/2007 12:34:13 PM PDT

Hi.

Intabus

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Azgalor

6. Re: Quick questions 04/14/2007 12:34:42 PM PDT

Yet still, people have their "Ignore unless i can flame" button on.

Yea, it may seem that my spelling sucks, but most of the time, you will notice that all of the letters are there, just in the wrong places. some say im a bad typer, i blame dyslexia.

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7. Re: Quick questions 04/14/2007 12:36:24 PM PDT

Q u o t e:
Yet still, people have their "Ignore unless i can flame" button on.

ok you lost me

wha?

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8. Re: Quick questions 04/14/2007 12:36:37 PM PDT

This is the kind of mature and passive post that should be bumped because if the Blue posters are going to respond to anything, a post like this with as little fanaticism as the Shaman community has recently developed, will be the one they reply to. I mean at least in a Skinner sense psychologically speaking. If they want us to start posting in particular formats they should respond to the polite posts in a sea of the not so polite posts, and overtime the trend should change. Positive reinforcement Blizzard...

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9. Re: Quick questions 04/14/2007 12:38:16 PM PDT

Q u o t e:
This is the kind of mature and passive post that should be bumped because if the Blue posters are going to respond to anything, a post like this with as little fanaticism as the Shaman community has recently developed, will be the one they reply to. I mean at least in a Skinner sense psychologically speaking. If they want us to start posting in particular formats they should respond to the polite posts in a sea of the not so polite posts, and overtime the trend should change. Positive reinforcement Blizzard...

ty!

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10. Re: Quick questions 04/14/2007 12:50:56 PM PDT

darn forum killing power...

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Intabus

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Azgalor

11. Re: Quick questions 04/14/2007 12:56:01 PM PDT

What i mean is, that unless it is a post that can be easily flamed, most of the forum community ignores said post.

You phrased this post in a very mature manner, which totally confuses 90% of the people on these forums.

I definately think a blue should post like he said before to instill positive behavior in the kids round here.

Yea, it may seem that my spelling sucks, but most of the time, you will notice that all of the letters are there, just in the wrong places. some say im a bad typer, i blame dyslexia.

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12. Re: Quick questions 04/14/2007 12:58:11 PM PDT

Q u o t e:
What i mean is, that unless it is a post that can be easily flamed, most of the forum community ignores said post.

You phrased this post in a very mature manner, which totally confuses 90% of the people on these forums.

I definately think a blue should post like he said before to instill positive behavior in the kids round here.

Yeah life can be funny like that, people often ignore the reasonable people trying to make stuff better, they want to be entertained, not educated.

its a sad world

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13. Re: Quick questions 04/14/2007 01:00:40 PM PDT

Everyone just wants their class to be a no skill, button mashing session. They want to be able to kill everything with no risk to themselves. Its like playing AD&D and giving yourself a holy avenger at lvl 2.

When they have to use skill, they cry and whine and get pissed off.

There is no skill in OP abilities. And if you can play with underpower abilities, and still have fun and win, then you have skill.

Yea, it may seem that my spelling sucks, but most of the time, you will notice that all of the letters are there, just in the wrong places. some say im a bad typer, i blame dyslexia.

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14. Re: Quick questions 04/14/2007 01:09:57 PM PDT

Q u o t e:
Everyone just wants their class to be a no skill, button mashing session. They want to be able to kill everything with no risk to themselves. Its like playing AD&D and giving yourself a holy avenger at lvl 2.

When they have to use skill, they cry and whine and get pissed off.

There is no skill in OP abilities. And if you can play with underpower abilities, and still have fun and win, then you have skill.

again, life is weird that way, people ask for power sometimes as opposed to fun.

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Azgalor

15. Re: Quick questions 04/14/2007 01:21:58 PM PDT

Cmon blues.

/bump

Yea, it may seem that my spelling sucks, but most of the time, you will notice that all of the letters are there, just in the wrong places. some say im a bad typer, i blame dyslexia.

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16. Re: Quick questions 04/14/2007 01:29:43 PM PDT

Q u o t e:
Cmon blues.

/bump

thanks for the undying support

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Azgalor

17. Re: Quick questions 04/14/2007 01:32:00 PM PDT

It so rare to see someone who isnt crying and calling everyone else a noob that i want to support this ;)

Hopefully they figure it out soon.

Yea, it may seem that my spelling sucks, but most of the time, you will notice that all of the letters are there, just in the wrong places. some say im a bad typer, i blame dyslexia.

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18. Re: Quick questions 04/14/2007 01:39:23 PM PDT

Q u o t e:
It so rare to see someone who isnt crying and calling everyone else a noob that i want to support this ;)

Hopefully they figure it out soon.

hey it worked once before.

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19. Re: The old Blue response and the new 04/14/2007 01:51:36 PM PDT

Q u o t e:
1) What role does blizzard see the shaman in in burning crusade (now I suppose just the game in general) from both PVE and PVP perspectives?

Don't think the answer has really changed. Save to say that I would rephrase 'melee/dps' as 'healing/dps', which encompasses a little more of the Shaman. As it stands, enhancement doesn't do so hot in PvP, but can crank out solid damage in PvE. Elemental and Restoration may be able to transit between PvP and PvE with more ease than an Enhance Shaman. Again, roles are always general. If you can buff your party, do it. If you can melee dps a boss, do it. Worry about jobs and not general notions of roles.

Q u o t e:
2) Are there any plans for the replacement/improvement of the 41 point elemental talent?

Replacement? Not a preferable option over improvement. At the moment, I know of no specific plans to alter 41-point talents.

Q u o t e:
3) Are there any plans for the replacement/ improvement of the elemental totems?

Not that I know of.

Q u o t e:
4) Are there any plans for giving us some more active abilities as opposed to the mostly passive repertoire
we seem to be receiving?

It's not out of the question, but in all likelyhood I don't think you're going to be seeing new abilities. It is possible that a talent or an ability could be changed to the point it might as well be a different spell, but at this point, I think attention will be given to the refinement of what exists, rather than throwing new things into the mix.

Q u o t e:
5) In general, what's in the works for the shaman???

As of late, the devs have been active on their Shaman more, to gain additional insight into the state of the class. So, I can say that they are looking into the class specifically, but as to specific adjustments they are considering, I can not say.

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