When Blizzard releases the 3.0 talents are we supposed to stop raiding? Because my guild is still working on Illidan (phase 5 last night!) and we're pretty concerned that a lot of things are simply going to break.

Anyone have any insight?

with the new talent points things might be faster, but by this time people will have their accounts on standby

I wouldnt worry, remember patchwerk and the armor change, blizzard fixed that. If anything they will raise the cd on shear.

They'll fix it beforehand or they'll hotfix it after a big outcry the day after the patch. Either way the world won't come to an end.

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When Blizzard releases the 3.0 talents are we supposed to stop raiding? Because my guild is still working on Illidan (phase 5 last night!) and we're pretty concerned that a lot of things are simply going to break.

Anyone have any insight?

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I'm predicting that you'll have a full month to beat him before the patch hits, at the very least. The real key to that fight is phase 2. If your FR tanks can handle that consistently, you'll eventually get the hang of phases 3 and 4 and then you basically have the fight.

I don't see how having dozens of awesome new talents would make things worse, but if something breaks, they'll unbreak it.

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Changes can be made to encounters if we feel they are necessary to allow the fight to work right. That said, the release of the patch isn't tomorrow, it's sometime in the coming weeks, so you still have time to work on the raids. Good luck on Illidan.

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I realize you may not be able to comment on this, and Blizzard generally doesn't like to commit to a certain date, but by 'coming weeks' do you literally mean in the next 2-4 weeks? Or more like 5-10 weeks?

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I realize you may not be able to comment on this, and Blizzard generally doesn't like to commit to a certain date, but by 'coming weeks' do you literally mean in the next 2-4 weeks? Or more like 5-10 weeks?

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Tigole has clarified on the beta forums that they mean 3.0 is going to hit the PTR soon and will likely stay there a couple months.

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Changes can be made to encounters if we feel they are necessary to allow the fight to work right. That said, the release of the patch isn't tomorrow, it's sometime in the coming weeks, so you still have time to work on the raids. Good luck on Illidan.

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So this means I'll get to kick illidan's butt with two giant 2handers before WOTLK?

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I realize you may not be able to comment on this, and Blizzard generally doesn't like to commit to a certain date, but by 'coming weeks' do you literally mean in the next 2-4 weeks? Or more like 5-10 weeks?

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5-10 weeks would be "upcoming months"

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Tigole has clarified on the beta forums that they mean 3.0 is going to hit the PTR soon and will likely stay there a couple months.

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!@#$ing sweet.

Time to test out my 6 70s, 64 and 63!

Tigole is actually not that clear, here's the quote:

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We beta test things for a long time. We put things on the PTR for a long time. Things aren't finished. We're still tuning and balancing.

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5-10 weeks would be "upcoming months"

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This has been my general understanding. Question is.. did they actually MEAN the coming months? I'm thinking yes. But since it's coming to PTR, I don't care :D

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!@#$ing sweet.

Time to test out my 6 70s, 64 and 63!

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I'm guessing there'll be four copies with no premades, so you've got some hard decisions ahead :P

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I'm guessing there'll be four copies with no premades, so you've got some hard decisions ahead :P

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Not necessarily, since I have a few classes I'm not certain I want to revive :)

And a few that I am SURE I do not want to revive.

So.. Priest, Shaman, Rogue and Mage.

Hunter and Warrior can both wait til it goes live.

Druid and Warlock can suck my balls. :) Demon form looks fun, but meh.. not THAT fun. And I only get to use it once every 3 minutes :p the rest of the time I have to hate being a felguard lock.

Do remember that along with these changes, crushing blows by bosses also go away. I would think Illidan would be easier to tank with that, as well.

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I don't see how having dozens of awesome new talents would make things worse, but if something breaks, they'll unbreak it.

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They are changing the CD on warriors Shield Block to 30 seconds(?), from its current 5 seconds. The ability Shear must be blocked with it, or Holy shield if you have a pally, or its a near guranteed wipe.

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Do remember that along with these changes, crushing blows by bosses also go away. I would think Illidan would be easier to tank with that, as well.

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It won't matter if shield block still has a 1 minute cooldown if he shears every 20 seconds still. Won't matter if he crushes or not if your 21k hp tank goes down to 9k hp for 5 seconds.


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Of course, still wondering about the downranking/potion sickness thing with sunwell raiding, should be interesting. If anything, if it's up on the PTRs for so long, they'll get the proper testing for it since we already have a raid game at70, unlike beta atm.