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Cho'gall

0. Why is it Enchant - Shield, and not offhand? 04/04/2007 12:23:47 PM PDT

Why are normal offhands ineligible for enchants?

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Zedword

Bloodscalp

1. Re: Why is it Enchant - Shield, and not offha 04/04/2007 12:26:48 PM PDT

Q u o t e:
Why are normal offhands ineligible for enchants?

Eyonix answered this a long time ago, stating it didn't make sense for offhands to be enchanted since they were "weird" items like spoons and flowers.

The facts that it's MAGIC, it's a GAME, and said spoon/flower/bag/snowcone already making you smarter/stronger in the first place are apparently moot points.

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Anvilmar

2. Re: Why is it Enchant - Shield, and not offha 04/04/2007 12:27:19 PM PDT

/agree

The caster enchants available for shields should be available for offhands too.

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Garona

3. Re: Why is it Enchant - Shield, and not offha 04/04/2007 12:27:51 PM PDT

well those items are technically already "enchanted."

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4. Re: Why is it Enchant - Shield, and not offha 04/04/2007 12:29:39 PM PDT

What, a torch somehow giving you +Int, +Spell Damage and + Spell Crit isn't magic enough for you?

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Zedword

Bloodscalp

5. Re: Why is it Enchant - Shield, and not offha 04/04/2007 12:30:47 PM PDT

Q u o t e:
What, a torch somehow giving you +Int, +Spell Damage and + Spell Crit isn't magic enough for you?

if shields swords and pretty jewelry isn't enough, why stop with my left hand?

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Anvilmar

6. Re: Why is it Enchant - Shield, and not offha 04/04/2007 12:38:30 PM PDT

Q u o t e:
well those items are technically already "enchanted."

So is a shield that gives anything other than armor and block.

Q u o t e:
What, a torch somehow giving you +Int, +Spell Damage and + Spell Crit isn't magic enough for you?

There are shields that give the same stats.

[ Post edited by Myste ]

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Coilfang

7. Re: Why is it Enchant - Shield, and not offha 04/04/2007 12:39:32 PM PDT

i made a couple posts about this too i keep getting ignored

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8. Re: Why is it Enchant - Shield, and not offha 04/04/2007 12:39:53 PM PDT

Off-hand is a pretty broad category. Adding enchantments to such items doesn't seem to lend the same focus as other categories might. Enchantments tend to have certain restrictions by slot. Boot enchants might be speed-oriented, which doesn't make sense for a chest slot. Chest slots might have additional armor which doesn't make sense for gloves. Gloves might have an agility bonus which doesn't make sense for a helmet. And so on.

Off-hand is composed of shields, weapons, and items both frivolous and advantageous. To start tossing out additional stats into such a category could get sloppy easily. A shield enchant isn't going to be worth anything on a caster off-hand, so you have the potential of needing to generate a multitude of enchants for all these little distinctions, while adding little to the bottom-line. In the space it takes five enchants to be useful for different slots, you could very well need just as many enchants for a single slot. This could become bloated and full of clutter.

Just something to consider.

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Argent Dawn

10. Re: Why is it Enchant - Shield, and not offha 04/04/2007 12:42:43 PM PDT

Q u o t e:
Off-hand is a pretty broad category. Adding enchantments to such items doesn't seem to lend the same focus as other categories might. Enchantments tend to have certain restrictions by slot. Boot enchants might be speed-oriented, which doesn't make sense for a chest slot. Chest slots might have additional armor which doesn't make sense for gloves. Gloves might have an agility bonus which doesn't make sense for a helmet. And so on.

Off-hand is composed of shields, weapons, and items both frivolous and advantageous. To start tossing out additional stats into such a category could get sloppy easily. A shield enchant isn't going to be worth anything on a caster off-hand, so you have the potential of needing to generate a multitude of enchants for all these little distinctions, while adding little to the bottom-line. In the space it takes five enchants to be useful for different slots, you could very well need just as many enchants for a single slot. This could become bloated and full of clutter.

Just something to consider.

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Mo'grosh

11. Re: Why is it Enchant - Shield, and not offha 04/04/2007 12:43:06 PM PDT

Q u o t e:
Off-hand is a pretty broad category. Adding enchantments to such items doesn't seem to lend the same focus as other categories might. Enchantments tend to have certain restrictions by slot. Boot enchants might be speed-oriented, which doesn't make sense for a chest slot. Chest slots might have additional armor which doesn't make sense for gloves. Gloves might have an agility bonus which doesn't make sense for a helmet. And so on.

Off-hand is composed of shields, weapons, and items both frivolous and advantageous. To start tossing out additional stats into such a category could get sloppy easily. A shield enchant isn't going to be worth anything on a caster off-hand, so you have the potential of needing to generate a multitude of enchants for all these little distinctions, while adding little to the bottom-line. In the space it takes five enchants to be useful for different slots, you could very well need just as many enchants for a single slot. This could become bloated and full of clutter.

Just something to consider.

So why not just make them separate categories?

I.E. Shield for shields, Weapon for weapons, Orb for caster off-hands...

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Sargeras

12. Re: Why is it Enchant - Shield, and not offha 04/04/2007 12:43:07 PM PDT

So... why is it fair for shields to be enchanted, but offhands not again, Tseric?

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Stormrage

14. Re: Why is it Enchant - Shield, and not offha 04/04/2007 12:44:22 PM PDT

Q u o t e:
Off-hand is a pretty broad category. Adding enchantments to such items doesn't seem to lend the same focus as other categories might. Enchantments tend to have certain restrictions by slot. Boot enchants might be speed-oriented, which doesn't make sense for a chest slot. Chest slots might have additional armor which doesn't make sense for gloves. Gloves might have an agility bonus which doesn't make sense for a helmet. And so on.

Off-hand is composed of shields, weapons, and items both frivolous and advantageous. To start tossing out additional stats into such a category could get sloppy easily. A shield enchant isn't going to be worth anything on a caster off-hand, so you have the potential of needing to generate a multitude of enchants for all these little distinctions, while adding little to the bottom-line. In the space it takes five enchants to be useful for different slots, you could very well need just as many enchants for a single slot. This could become bloated and full of clutter.

Just something to consider.

There is absolutely nothing to consider there, lol.

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15. Re: Why is it Enchant - Shield, and not offha 04/04/2007 12:44:55 PM PDT

Q u o t e:
Off-hand is a pretty broad category. Adding enchantments to such items doesn't seem to lend the same focus as other categories might. Enchantments tend to have certain restrictions by slot. Boot enchants might be speed-oriented, which doesn't make sense for a chest slot. Chest slots might have additional armor which doesn't make sense for gloves. Gloves might have an agility bonus which doesn't make sense for a helmet. And so on.

Off-hand is composed of shields, weapons, and items both frivolous and advantageous. To start tossing out additional stats into such a category could get sloppy easily. A shield enchant isn't going to be worth anything on a caster off-hand, so you have the potential of needing to generate a multitude of enchants for all these little distinctions, while adding little to the bottom-line. In the space it takes five enchants to be useful for different slots, you could very well need just as many enchants for a single slot. This could become bloated and full of clutter.

Just something to consider.

Personally, my priest would love an 18sta enchant to his offhand items, just as the shields have.

A fix anytime soon perhaps? Will it help if I say please?
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=74887904&sid=1&pageNo=1

Roorhit

Khaz Modan

16. Re: Why is it Enchant - Shield, and not offha 04/04/2007 12:45:11 PM PDT

Q u o t e:
Off-hand is a pretty broad category. Adding enchantments to such items doesn't seem to lend the same focus as other categories might. Enchantments tend to have certain restrictions by slot. Boot enchants might be speed-oriented, which doesn't make sense for a chest slot. Chest slots might have additional armor which doesn't make sense for gloves. Gloves might have an agility bonus which doesn't make sense for a helmet. And so on.

Off-hand is composed of shields, weapons, and items both frivolous and advantageous. To start tossing out additional stats into such a category could get sloppy easily. A shield enchant isn't going to be worth anything on a caster off-hand, so you have the potential of needing to generate a multitude of enchants for all these little distinctions, while adding little to the bottom-line. In the space it takes five enchants to be useful for different slots, you could very well need just as many enchants for a single slot. This could become bloated and full of clutter.

Just something to consider.

What I got from this was "that would require too much effort so we decided not to"

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Whisperwind

17. Re: Why is it Enchant - Shield, and not offha 04/04/2007 12:45:38 PM PDT

Q u o t e:
Off-hand is a pretty broad category. Adding enchantments to such items doesn't seem to lend the same focus as other categories might. Enchantments tend to have certain restrictions by slot. Boot enchants might be speed-oriented, which doesn't make sense for a chest slot. Chest slots might have additional armor which doesn't make sense for gloves. Gloves might have an agility bonus which doesn't make sense for a helmet. And so on.

Off-hand is composed of shields, weapons, and items both frivolous and advantageous. To start tossing out additional stats into such a category could get sloppy easily. A shield enchant isn't going to be worth anything on a caster off-hand, so you have the potential of needing to generate a multitude of enchants for all these little distinctions, while adding little to the bottom-line. In the space it takes five enchants to be useful for different slots, you could very well need just as many enchants for a single slot. This could become bloated and full of clutter.

Just something to consider.

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Hellscream

18. Re: Why is it Enchant - Shield, and not offha 04/04/2007 12:45:57 PM PDT

Q u o t e:
Why are normal offhands ineligible for enchants?

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Anvilmar

19. Re: Why is it Enchant - Shield, and not offha 04/04/2007 12:46:13 PM PDT

Q u o t e:
Off-hand is a pretty broad category. Adding enchantments to such items doesn't seem to lend the same focus as other categories might. Enchantments tend to have certain restrictions by slot. Boot enchants might be speed-oriented, which doesn't make sense for a chest slot. Chest slots might have additional armor which doesn't make sense for gloves. Gloves might have an agility bonus which doesn't make sense for a helmet. And so on.

Off-hand is composed of shields, weapons, and items both frivolous and advantageous. To start tossing out additional stats into such a category could get sloppy easily. A shield enchant isn't going to be worth anything on a caster off-hand, so you have the potential of needing to generate a multitude of enchants for all these little distinctions, while adding little to the bottom-line. In the space it takes five enchants to be useful for different slots, you could very well need just as many enchants for a single slot. This could become bloated and full of clutter.

Just something to consider.

There are +int, +spi and +sta enchants available for shields. All three have value to casters. Int and Spi are specifically aimed at casters who can wield shields. All we want is those enchants to be available to caster offhands as well.

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