Under the guild summary tab, having a key chart to show who can do heroics would be great.

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I disagree with the opt-out option, as it is a waste of developer resources. Sure, other arena teams can look up info on your teams, but you can likewise look do the same to them. I don't see this being a huge deal.

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it should be shut down period

opt out is a compromise


other players have no freaking buisness knowing what I have , what my spec is , or any other info that I have no wish to share with them.

and in game inspection should be by permission only , with a check/uncheck - allow inspection , in interface menu


again, for the intelligence impaired, other players have no buisness knowing ANYTHING that I do not choose to share with them

I absolutely love this. It makes the warcraftrealms site not as neccesary. I don't think there needs to be any concern about hiding gear and the such because that information is available on other sites anyways. Very cool!!!

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my question is why do u want 2 turn ur info off and y do u ask? does it really matter if some1 can c ur gear and rep and crap?

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You see, here's the funny thing about privacy issues...we do NOT have to justify why we want something kept private. If I say I want this information private then that is all you need to know. If you tell me I cannot have it kept private then it falls on you to justify how your desire to see the information outweighs my desire to have it kept private, not the other way around. So all of you people saying, Blizzard owns the database etc just need to stfu and come up with some valid reasons why we should not be allowed to have this information kept private. It's great if you like the system but do not think you are going to force those of us who do not like it to suddenly change our minds and feel less violated by Blizzards decision here.

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You see, here's the funny thing about privacy issues...we do NOT have to justify why we want something kept private. If I say I want this information private then that is all you need to know. If you tell me I cannot have it kept private then it falls on you to justify how your desire to see the information outweighs my desire to have it kept private, not the other way around. So all of you people saying, Blizzard owns the database etc just need to stfu and come up with some valid reasons why we should not be allowed to have this information kept private. It's great if you like the system but do not think you are going to force those of us who do not like it to suddenly change our minds and feel less violated by Blizzards decision here.

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exactly,

violated is exactly how I feel and Blizzard should get off their butts and do something to remedy that VERY soon

the fact is , I am not even remotely alone in this feeling , it would behoove Blizzard to pay attention here and respect our feelings

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You see, here's the funny thing about privacy issues...we do NOT have to justify why we want something kept private. If I say I want this information private then that is all you need to know. If you tell me I cannot have it kept private then it falls on you to justify how your desire to see the information outweighs my desire to have it kept private, not the other way around. So all of you people saying, Blizzard owns the database etc just need to stfu and come up with some valid reasons why we should not be allowed to have this information kept private. It's great if you like the system but do not think you are going to force those of us who do not like it to suddenly change our minds and feel less violated by Blizzards decision here.

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The data was never yours to begin with hence privacy doesn't even come into play. Blizzard can and will do whatever they want with their data.

If they make an opt-out feature, anyone who chooses to do so with any of their characters should no longer be able to access the armory.

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The data was never yours to begin with hence privacy doesn't even come into play. Blizzard can and will do whatever they want with their data.

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another mindless wonder droning the pat answer...

there are privacy issues here ,whether you or they see them or not ,

at present it is not too late to remedy them

before something bad happens

I use firefox and this page will not load for me either

As of this morning the Armory is not accessible on the Mac platform from either Firefox or Safari. I was able to get to it yesterday, but this morning it's broken. Can you please look into this?

Safari - The address http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/ loads a blank page. This is Version 2.0.4 (419.3) running 10.4.8

Firefox - The address never resolves but says that it is constantly loading data. This is Version 2.0.0.2 running 10.4.8

Since IE is not really an option, having it work in either Firefox or Safari would do nicely. Thank you in advance.

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If they make an opt-out feature, anyone who chooses to do so with any of their characters should no longer be able to access the armory.

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why would we want to?

Firefox dont like this page, I cant see it either. I just installed Camino and now I can see the page, but hate camino :(

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You see, here's the funny thing about privacy issues...we do NOT have to justify why we want something kept private. If I say I want this information private then that is all you need to know.

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Regardless of what Slashdot and Boing Boing have told you, you really do have to justify that sort of thing. The funny thing about privacy issues is that they really aren't much different from any other issues; they just happen to be a hot-button subject on the intarwebs right now.

If you want people to not summarily dismiss your argument, you need to defend it in a way that makes sense to other people. Saying "this is what I want, and I don't have to back it up" doesn't support your position at all; in fact, it's damaging to your position, because the nature of debate is such that people assume that if you have rational arguments in defense of your position, you'll use them. Failing to defend your position leads people to believe that you can't defend your position.

To be honest, I'm of the belief that this isn't a privacy issue at all. My talent spec and gear isn't personal or private information - that there hasn't been an easy way for someone else to get at it before now doesn't make it private - and it doesn't belong to me. Blizzard allows me to use and change that information for the purposes of playing the game, but it's not mine.

On the other hand, I'm also not a die-hard adherent to this belief. If you can convince me - convince me, with actual arguments and evidence instead of "I want!" - that this is information that belongs to me and/or that Blizzard, who does own the information, has an obligation to not publish it, then I'll happily change my tune.

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The data was never yours to begin with hence privacy doesn't even come into play. Blizzard can and will do whatever they want with their data.

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Once again you fail to justify why they should have no right to have their information kept private. Instead you fall back on the same old, tired and completely irrelevant argument the "data is theirs blah blah blah". You still have not given a single reason why you or anyone else should be allowed to view this information and how your desire outweighs the wishes of those who want their information kept private. Until you can do that then your words mean absolutely nothing since you're obviously someone who would subvert the freedom we enjoy in the USA instead of defend it.

Get this error this morning, past few days it has been pretty good.

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I think this feature is great. If you honestly have that much to worry about that it scares you to have people see your "virtual gear" then you need to take a break. People with nothing to hide are the ones that like this feature.

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it should be shut down period

opt out is a compromise

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Almost everyone loves this new website. You're just being spiteful here, denying everyone else their fun when really you're just ashamed of your gear and rep being either not good enough, or too good.

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other players have no freaking buisness knowing what I have , what my spec is , or any other info that I have no wish to share with them.

and in game inspection should be by permission only , with a check/uncheck - allow inspection , in interface menu


again, for the intelligence impaired, other players have no buisness knowing ANYTHING that I do not choose to share with them

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You don't own your character, and there has never been a game (not even FFXI) where inspection was by permission only. Did you know that you're not allowed to sell accounts either? :P

A lot of people are going ballistic and overreacting to this change, but where were you when WoW Census made an addon and website that would show your profile if you were inspected by another player running the addon? Did that not outrage you just as much, if not more because a third party was harvesting "your" information and posting it on the web for all to see?

I can't take anyone seriously who claims to think this is a privacy issue. Everyone who is complaining and bringing up the legal ramifications really looks like an internet troll to me, just trying to make life harder for the forum moderators here. If you're not going to be constructive and positive, you should either get back to work/school, go play WoW, or go outside.

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Regardless of what Slashdot and Boing Boing have told you, you really do have to justify that sort of thing. The funny thing about privacy issues is that they really aren't much different from any other issues; they just happen to be a hot-button subject on the intarwebs right now.

If you want people to not summarily dismiss your argument, you need to defend it in a way that makes sense to other people. Saying "this is what I want, and I don't have to back it up" doesn't support your position at all; in fact, it's damaging to your position, because the nature of debate is such that people assume that if you have rational arguments in defense of your position, you'll use them. Failing to defend your position leads people to believe that you can't defend your position.

To be honest, I'm of the belief that this isn't a privacy issue at all. My talent spec and gear isn't personal or private information - that there hasn't been an easy way for someone else to get at it before now doesn't make it private - and it doesn't belong to me. Blizzard allows me to use and change that information for the purposes of playing the game, but it's not mine.

On the other hand, I'm also not a die-hard adherent to this belief. If you can convince me - convince me, with actual arguments and evidence instead of "I want!" - that this is information that belongs to me and/or that Blizzard, who does own the information, has an obligation to not publish it, then I'll happily change my tune.

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see you are just wrong from the begining

it isnt a debate , I dont care what your opinion is , or if you agree with me or not , that doesnt matter one bit.

It IS a privacy issue , one that can have drastic effects on Blizzard ,

that was a statement , not an assumption or guess or attempt to convince another player , a simple staement of fact to Blizzard.

people who like the idea can go on and share info , those who have no desire to should not be violated in this manner .

what is next? Blizzard gonna share our contact details with anyone who happens to ask?

they better rethink this pronto!

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Once again you fail to justify why they should have no right to have their information kept private. Instead you fall back on the same old, tired and completely irrelevant argument the "data is theirs blah blah blah". You still have not given a single reason why you or anyone else should be allowed to view this information and how your desire outweighs the wishes of those who want their information kept private. Until you can do that then your words mean absolutely nothing since you're obviously someone who would subvert the freedom we enjoy in the USA instead of defend it.

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I'll say it again because it's a good point.

THERE ARE THIRD PARTY WEBSITES THAT ALREADY DISPLAY YOUR PROFILE WITHOUT YOU EVEN HAVING TO RUN THEIR UI ADDON. You just have to be inspected in-game by someone running their mod.

Besides that, not all users of the North American servers even live in North America, let alone the USA. Many people from Canada and Australia play with us, and probably Mexico and South America, too. Don't even think that you can fall back on false patriotism to support your claim that your character information is somehow personal, and that you even have a right to that ridiculous level of privacy. You can't keep your character's gear under wraps any more than you can keep your criminal record or your credit history private.

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Almost everyone loves this new website. You're just being spiteful here, denying everyone else their fun when really you're just ashamed of your gear and rep being either not good enough, or too good.


You don't own your character, and there has never been a game (not even FFXI) where inspection was by permission only. Did you know that you're not allowed to sell accounts either? :P

A lot of people are going ballistic and overreacting to this change, but where were you when WoW Census made an addon and website that would show your profile if you were inspected by another player running the addon? Did that not outrage you just as much, if not more because a third party was harvesting "your" information and posting it on the web for all to see?

I can't take anyone seriously who claims to think this is a privacy issue. Everyone who is complaining and bringing up the legal ramifications really looks like an internet troll to me, just trying to make life harder for the forum moderators here. If you're not going to be constructive and positive, you should either get back to work/school, go play WoW, or go outside.

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in EQ , the very FIRST MMORPG of any size , inspection was by permission only so you should actually learn of what you speak before doing so .


WoW census was unknown to me and should have been shut down or have had the ability to opt out too

I do not care if you think it isnt a privacy issue ,it is and that is what matters , not your opinion