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  • Sentinels
  • 0. What's wrong with LFG system (constructive)   02/26/2007 11:01:01 AM PST
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I'm getting really damn frustrated with the LFG system, so I thought I'd spell out some examples of what's wrong in a nice constructive way so that the developers can get a good idea of problems that occur, an dhopefully fix it. (This probably won't happen, but I'd appreciate good discussion instead of mindless OMG BLIZZ BRING BACK LFG CHANNEL stuff)

*You can only look for 1 thing at a time when looking for more. I'm always grouped with my girlfriend, and we frequently are up for more than 1 instance. But since we're in a group already, we can only look for more, which means only 1 thing at a time. We're usually forced to ping pong back and forth between 2 or more lists, seeing if we can find anyone.

*The classifications are way too narrow. If I'm looking for more, I can't put down qualifiers such as "need healer" or "already have mallet for Ghazrilla" or "only going to enchant trainer"

*Elite quests only look for others with that same quest. if I'm looking for people to run Jintha'Alor, there's at least 5-7 different quests that take place there. Which one am I supposed to LFG for? (not to mention the mallet for ZF isn't even part of a quest)

*You don't know about groups unless you're looking for a group. For the sake of argument, let's say the global LFG channel was still there and you're a prot pally. You're not really trying to do instancing, but you see over the LFG channel "LF Tank for undead Strat" - there's a good chance you'd think "hey, here's a full-formed group that only needs a tank. I think i'll join up." Now, unless that Pally specifically says he's looking for Strat, he'll never get that offer.

*the level restriction for instances. If I'm a level 70, and I want to be charitable and run some people through SM, why can't I advertise for that?


Those are the ones that have irritated me recently - what other parts do you think need to be fixed?
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  • Sentinels
  • 1. Re: What's wrong with LFG system (constructiv   02/26/2007 11:47:57 AM PST
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Man these things move off the front page quickly . . .
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  • 2. Re: What's wrong with LFG system (constructiv   02/26/2007 11:53:10 AM PST
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We're looking into several improvements for the next content patch however there is only one that we can talk about at this point in time as we wait on the go ahead for talking about any others.

The one we CAN talk about is a reimplementation of the Looking For Group channel. Unlike the previous incarnation that was global for everyone, this new channel will only allow those that are a part of the Looking For Group and Looking For More system to use it. This should boost not only the usage of the tool but allow people to discuss the types of groups they are forming and what they are looking for in a group or even in the event they want to take part in.

This is just one example of some feedback that we've taken into account and worked to implement in improving the tool. We'll share more as we can in the future.

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  • 4. Re: What's wrong with LFG system (constructiv   02/26/2007 11:56:12 AM PST
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can't wait!

Edit:
Neth's response reminds me of this Drysc's reply:
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=77786799&sid=1#8
(all good)

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  • Mal'Ganis
  • 5. Re: What's wrong with LFG system (constructiv   02/26/2007 11:56:32 AM PST
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Q u o t e:
We're looking into several improvements for the next content patch however there is only one that we can talk about at this point in time as we wait on the go ahead for talking about any others.

The one we CAN talk about is a reimplementation of the Looking For Group channel. Unlike the previous incarnation that was global for everyone, this new channel will only allow those that are a part of the Looking For Group and Looking For More system to use it. This should boost not only the usage of the tool but allow people to discuss the types of groups they are forming and what they are looking for in a group or even in the event they want to take part in.

This is just one example of some feedback that we've taken into account and worked to implement in improving the tool. We'll share more as we can in the future.


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  • 6. Re: What's wrong with LFG system (constructiv   02/26/2007 11:56:41 AM PST
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Neth, I know you've probably got your hands bound on this one, but will the revamped LFG channel be segregated based upon what you queue up for, or be one unified channel for everyone? Also, do you know if there will be tighter moderation controls upon the content of said channel?

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  • 7. Re: What's wrong with LFG system (constructiv   02/26/2007 11:56:45 AM PST
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The one that bothered me most of all recently is not being able to queue for old world dungeons.

The inability to look for groups for alts is also troublesome, but it hasn't hit me as much lately.
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  • 8. Re: What's wrong with LFG system (constructiv   02/26/2007 11:57:43 AM PST
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Q u o t e:

The one we CAN talk about is a reimplementation of the Looking For Group channel. Unlike the previous incarnation that was global for everyone, this new channel will only allow those that are a part of the Looking For Group and Looking For More system to use it. This should boost not only the usage of the tool but allow people to discuss the types of groups they are forming and what they are looking for in a group or even in the event they want to take part in.



Sounds like a really good solution to the LFG channel complaints. I like it.

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  • 9. Re: What's wrong with LFG system (constructiv   02/26/2007 11:58:37 AM PST
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Q u o t e:
Neth, I know you've probably got your hands bound on this one, but will the revamped LFG channel be segregated based upon what you queue up for, or be one unified channel for everyone? Also, do you know if there will be tighter moderation controls upon the content of said channel?


Those are good questions to ask and I'm not sure if there are going to be any additional controls or seperation of channels. I'll do a follow-up question on it and see if there is a bit more on how the team plans this to function.

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  • 10. Re: What's wrong with LFG system (constructiv   02/26/2007 11:58:40 AM PST
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Q u o t e:
We're looking into several improvements for the next content patch however there is only one that we can talk about at this point in time as we wait on the go ahead for talking about any others.

The one we CAN talk about is a reimplementation of the Looking For Group channel. Unlike the previous incarnation that was global for everyone, this new channel will only allow those that are a part of the Looking For Group and Looking For More system to use it. This should boost not only the usage of the tool but allow people to discuss the types of groups they are forming and what they are looking for in a group or even in the event they want to take part in.

This is just one example of some feedback that we've taken into account and worked to implement in improving the tool. We'll share more as we can in the future.


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Thank you Blizz for reimplementing the channel.

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  • 11. Re: What's wrong with LFG system (constructiv   02/26/2007 11:59:00 AM PST
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Q u o t e:

The one we CAN talk about is a reimplementation of the Looking For Group channel. Unlike the previous incarnation that was global for everyone, this new channel will only allow those that are a part of the Looking For Group and Looking For More system to use it. This should boost not only the usage of the tool but allow people to discuss the types of groups they are forming and what they are looking for in a group or even in the event they want to take part in.



I really hope that the implementation of this will cut down on the inane chatter that was the old LFG channel. I have fears that people will put themselves in the system only so they have access to the channel. Please tell me GMs will be moderating the new LFG channel. We want to use it to look for groups, not listen to your mom and Chuck Norris jokes repeated ad nauseum.

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  • 12. Re: What's wrong with LFG system (constructiv   02/26/2007 11:59:13 AM PST
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lol,

THAT STILL WON'T WORK.

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  • 13. Re: What's wrong with LFG system (constructiv   02/26/2007 12:00:04 PM PST
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Q u o t e:
We're looking into several improvements for the next content patch however there is only one that we can talk about at this point in time as we wait on the go ahead for talking about any others.

The one we CAN talk about is a reimplementation of the Looking For Group channel. Unlike the previous incarnation that was global for everyone, this new channel will only allow those that are a part of the Looking For Group and Looking For More system to use it. This should boost not only the usage of the tool but allow people to discuss the types of groups they are forming and what they are looking for in a group or even in the event they want to take part in.

This is just one example of some feedback that we've taken into account and worked to implement in improving the tool. We'll share more as we can in the future.


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  • 14. Re: What's wrong with LFG system (constructiv   02/26/2007 12:01:13 PM PST
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Sounds like a really good solution to the LFG channel complaints. I like it.


I don't. It just makes people take one extra step to sign up to make Chuck Norris jokes.

I would greatly prefer the LFG channel be read-only, globally viewable, and populated by the LFG tool.

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  • 15. Re: What's wrong with LFG system (constructiv   02/26/2007 12:01:47 PM PST
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Q u o t e:
We're looking into several improvements for the next content patch however there is only one that we can talk about at this point in time as we wait on the go ahead for talking about any others.

The one we CAN talk about is a reimplementation of the Looking For Group channel. Unlike the previous incarnation that was global for everyone, this new channel will only allow those that are a part of the Looking For Group and Looking For More system to use it. This should boost not only the usage of the tool but allow people to discuss the types of groups they are forming and what they are looking for in a group or even in the event they want to take part in.

This is just one example of some feedback that we've taken into account and worked to implement in improving the tool. We'll share more as we can in the future.


*glee* My first blue response!

To be serious, the reason I wrote this wasn't to get more info about how it will be better - all I wanted was a nice list of concerns that you guys would hopefully look into. I'll go ahead and check that objective off the list, then.

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  • 16. Re: What's wrong with LFG system (constructiv   02/26/2007 12:01:51 PM PST
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The only problem I see with the LFG tool as it is right now is you cannot join a queue for an instance you a nit in range for. Obviousley it's fine that lower levels can't queue for higher instances, but us high level players looking for group for lower level instances are kinda SOL.
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  • 17. Re: What's wrong with LFG system (constructiv   02/26/2007 12:02:12 PM PST
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The limitation to certain instances based on your characters level also needs to change. Perhaps a combo-box which allows the user to select which level-category of instances he/she wants to join. A long with being able to select what type of character this is (defaults to current character) which allows Alts to search for groups.

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  • 18. Re: What's wrong with LFG system (constructiv   02/26/2007 12:03:14 PM PST
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I don't. It just makes people take one extra step to sign up to make Chuck Norris jokes.

I would greatly prefer the LFG channel be read-only, globally viewable, and populated by the LFG tool.



Just wait a minute, she's already questing for more info. It takes a minute to wander over to Dev land and back. She'll get us the scoop on whether the moderation level will be ratcheted up. The alternative is unthinkable: she'd have to go try and make some sense of the Priest forum meltdown.

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  • 19. Re: What's wrong with LFG system (constructiv   02/26/2007 12:03:48 PM PST
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whoo hooo

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