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Skyhoof

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Cenarius

0. Tseric's meeting 03/01/2007 02:57:33 PM PST

Anyone hear how Tseric's meeting went?

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Elament

Spirestone

2. Re: Tseric's meeting 03/01/2007 03:22:15 PM PST

3 options.

1. Still in meeting.
2. Forgot about us.
3. Finished meeting, but has no idea how to break the news to the shaman community.

I doubt 1, I expect 2, but i'm prepared for 3.

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Tseric

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3. Re: Tseric's meeting 03/01/2007 03:28:07 PM PST

I always know how to break the news, cause I rarely candy-coat.

Downranking Windfury on two weapons to gain separate cooldowns is a bug with a fix incoming. This means down-ranking on different weapons will no longer stagger cooldowns. The devs want this bug resolved, as it has been a primary source of unintended Enhancement DPS, which they have seen as excessive. Enhancement DPS has been high in many situations and this is something they want to tone down. When this change goes live, it will lend itself to that end, rather than the devs having to look for direct changes to Enh. DPS. Good chance they will still be watching this aspect of Shaman after the bug fix is implemented.

While I may be sorry to say as much, there you have it.

edited first sentence for clarity.

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Balnazzar

5. Re: Tseric's meeting 03/01/2007 03:29:53 PM PST

Any word as to what we are supposed to do about spare mobs running around in Heroic instances that we cannot CC or tank?

Unfortunately my stoneclaw totem only has 2k health or something like that, thats maybe 1 to 2 hits that it can absorb...

Honestly I don't care about CC in pvp, give us something that affects non humanoids for all I care. People who cant figure out how to pvp with our current trees just need to LTP. But for the love of all that is holy, what do you want me to tell party leaders who say "sorry I need dps that can control a spare mob"

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7. Re: Tseric's meeting 03/01/2007 03:32:01 PM PST

Well thanks for the info. At least you gave us the word on the deal. Which is rare that we get it all from what we are use to... :/

goodbye pvp for enhance

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8. Re: Tseric's meeting 03/01/2007 03:32:39 PM PST

Are they going to fix the tooltip, then?

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9. Re: Tseric's meeting 03/01/2007 03:32:49 PM PST

Could the WF tooltip be changed to state it's no longer really a 20% chance? Even less so with faster weapons?

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Skywall

10. Re: Tseric's meeting 03/01/2007 03:33:52 PM PST

say what?

Pongel

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Tichondrius

12. Re: Tseric's meeting 03/01/2007 03:34:23 PM PST

I'm confused.

Is the 3 second cooldown not suppose to be there (earlier confirmed as intended)?
Is the off-hand suppose to share a cooldown, and the work-around to this not intended?
Is the 3 second cooldown causing the 'quad' Windfury procs, and this is what the devs are saying is creating too much dps?

Please elaborate.

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Spirestone

13. Re: Tseric's meeting 03/01/2007 03:34:46 PM PST

Totally makes sense that they want to fix a bug that people are currently exploiting. I get it.

We shouldn't be outdpsing rogues in pve.

That being said there is this whole fragility issue in pvp, not to mention worthless talents in the enhance tree (shield spec and toughness) that serve no purpose anymore, if they ever did in the first place since we're horrible off-tanks.

So did you discuss that stuff as well?

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Silvermoon

14. Re: Tseric's meeting 03/01/2007 03:34:58 PM PST

Wait, you say the 3 second cooldown for WF is a bug...which sounds like your saying there shouldnt be a 3 second cooldown in the first place.

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15. Re: Tseric's meeting 03/01/2007 03:35:08 PM PST

Would it not make sense to lower it to a 1 second cooldown? taht way it doesnt hurt us so much.

Also since this is happening..is there ANY way we can have a fix to our pvp? seriously this is going to hurt our pvp without a doubt. it was already not very strong.

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Khaz Modan

16. Re: Tseric's meeting 03/01/2007 03:35:14 PM PST

Pretty sure he's referring to the top 0.5% in the best possible gear with the right buffs, mob type and situational conditions.

Botatra

Durotan

17. Re: Tseric's meeting 03/01/2007 03:35:33 PM PST

AWESOME so now we are going to crap dps along with pulling aggro and have no cc with crap armour. So the intention is that we never hit any heroics. Just delete the class and be done with it please instead of constantly kicking us in the nuts.

Bruhaus

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Tortheldrin

19. Re: Tseric's meeting 03/01/2007 03:36:47 PM PST

ugh...

well, did they say anything else about the numerous other shammy concerns, most notably the cc, anti-cc debate?

edit:

to be honest with you im somewhat flabbergasted with the directions the devs are going with shammies. all the issues that we have raised and the devs think the answer is to nerf enh dps??

seeing that there are some major issues with enhancement shamans is so easy a caveman could do it. why cant the devs?

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