Please evaluate the change correctly before starting to QQ.

For a felguard build, it is certainly a nerf.

For a 0/40/21 build, it happens to be a BUFF (assuming it provides 5% crit to you), as 1% crit is much more valuable than 1% damage (for shadowbolt spamming) when combined with Imp shadow bolt and ruin. For any melee pet +1%dmg ~= +1% crit.

demo locks don't want crit... which is exactly why it was changed.

it's an intended nerf, get it?

wouldn't you agree that there's something wrong with a demonology spec'd warlock's dots being just as strong as a full affliction lock? the change also provides a nice burst dps build in 0/40/21

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Since BC came out, I've been able to keep up with mages as far as DPS in raids

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Curious about why this should be? What sacrifices have you made? You have a !%%@-ton more survivability then a mage.

Then again, there might be something I'm missing, who knows?

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For a 0/40/21 build, it happens to be a BUFF (assuming it provides 5% crit to you), as 1% crit is much more valuable than 1% damage (for shadowbolt spamming) when combined with Imp shadow bolt and ruin. For any melee pet +1%dmg ~= +1% crit.

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Warlocks exist without instant cast corruption? o.o

yea....im destro....and i want that crit

i dont really see what it does for demo unless you go 0/40/21 for raiding

LOL swapping a useful talent for a useless one with no offer of refunding talent points is pretty shabby imo.

Make is something USEFUL please at the VERY LEAST if no talent points will be refunded.

But if a trash talent is all they can think of, well then I guess all that $$$ we send you guys is going to waste huh.

I understand having to much +damage in one tree, and agree that its ridiculous that I can output as much damage as a full destruction lock, but please please at least replace it with a utility talent.

+crit is garbage, if thats what I wanted I'd spec destruction.

Hey Tseric, would something like "What Tseric said" be as annoying as just "first"?

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Demonic Resilience?

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It doesn't reduce damage done to the warlock or offer stun resist.

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Not sure of the specific dev reasoning for this change, but if I had to guess, I would say it was changed to limit the number of +damage percentages that could be piled up in one tree. You couple this with Master Demon, Demonic Knowledge, Soul Link and chances are, with your Felguard out (as you're probably going 41 into Demo with this talent, anyways) you're seeing a fair number of damage buffs. Stacking percentages can usually get out of hand when taking other factors into consideration which may further buff damage by a percentage.

I see what you're saying and I can certainly inquire as to specific reasoning, but this just looks like swapping a bit of steady damage for a little bursty damage, which makes for a gradual reduction of average dps.

edit - I forgot Polan...I mean Soul Link.

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If you really want to help out the felguard, change it to 5% to hit instead of 5% to crit :P

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Either way, warlocks are the last class anyone wants to hear b*tching right now.

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Yeah... Says the druid...COUGHCOUGHCOUGH

I understand the need to remove all the damage modifiers.. My problem is the ability you are replacing it with. The majority of warlocks who are this far deep into demonology do not care about the +crit stat therefore this ability becomes a waste of 5 talent points period. Our gear choices reflect this and our playstyle of using dots/drain life to do the majority of our damage so as not to pull aggro from the Felguard by criting with a nuke. It just makes no sense what so ever to have +crit at that spot in demonology. Please re-tweak it to something that either gives us some more sort of survivability or buffs our demon more.

The only warlocks that are lobbying to keep this change are 0/40/21 Destruction type warlocks who are min/maxing cooking cutter flavor of the month specs to maximize dps they love this change... Demonology warlocks do not like this one bit.

So basically for pvp we should spec destruction or aff/dest for any chance to maintain high dmg due to resilience stacking amirite?

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edit - I forgot Polan...I mean Soul Link.

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You just @**#ing won the internet.