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  • 0. Three Charters - Many Points?   02/16/2007 04:27:47 PM PST
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Does have three arena team charters - all of which (presumably) start at 1,500 rating all generate Arena points each Friday? If so, is that also true if the team doesn't play and just maintains the 1,500 Arena Rating?
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  • 1. Re: Three Charters - Many Points?   02/16/2007 04:31:13 PM PST
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  • 2. Re: Three Charters - Many Points?   02/16/2007 04:34:48 PM PST
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Arena points are awarded on a weekly basis, but will be tallied and awarded on Tuesday (during maintenance).

The award amounts have been adjusted slightly and break down in the following fashion:

5v5 matches will award a full allotment of arena points.

3v3 matches will award 80% of the allotment.

2v2 matches will award 60% of the allotment.

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  • 3. Re: Three Charters - Many Points?   02/16/2007 04:36:17 PM PST
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So does the system for earning rewards in the arena system work similarly to the current honor system?

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  • 4. Re: Three Charters - Many Points?   02/16/2007 04:36:32 PM PST
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As far as ranking goes: isn't it much more efficient to gain rank with just one team?

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  • 5. Re: Three Charters - Many Points?   02/16/2007 04:36:47 PM PST
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Yet if you get points on three different teams you only keep the points from the team that scored the best.

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  • 6. Re: Three Charters - Many Points?   02/16/2007 04:37:46 PM PST
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You will gain points seperately for each charter. Maximizing your efforts on three teams will therefore see the best gains.

Arena points are awarded on a weekly basis, but will be tallied and awarded on Tuesday (during maintenance).

The award amounts have been adjusted slightly and break down in the following fashion:

5v5 matches will award a full allotment of arena points.

3v3 matches will award 80% of the allotment.

2v2 matches will award 60% of the allotment.


So, essentially, I could make three charters (2vs2, 3vs3, 5vs5), enroll a bunch of players, then never play. The 1,500 points accumulated weekly would yield (according to the formula on your website):

5v5 Arena points: 408
3v3 Arena points: 245
2v2 Arena points: 163

816 free points a week for doing nothing. Although I realize you get a lot more for actually playing, isn't it a problem you can essentially farm free points without diminishing returns?
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  • 7. Re: Three Charters - Many Points?   02/16/2007 04:38:35 PM PST
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You must participate in at least 30% of the teams games to be awarded points.
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  • 8. Re: Three Charters - Many Points?   02/16/2007 04:39:15 PM PST
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You will gain points seperately for each charter. Maximizing your efforts on three teams will therefore see the best gains.

Arena points are awarded on a weekly basis, but will be tallied and awarded on Tuesday (during maintenance).

The award amounts have been adjusted slightly and break down in the following fashion:

5v5 matches will award a full allotment of arena points.

3v3 matches will award 80% of the allotment.

2v2 matches will award 60% of the allotment.


hunh? I thought you only got the arena points for your best team. So how is it maximizing your efforts to be on all three teams? isn't it better to just have the best 5on5 team and practice up and stay with that team?
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  • 10. Re: Three Charters - Many Points?   02/16/2007 04:39:43 PM PST
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you have to play a certain amount of games per week.

My question is does playing more matches accumulate more points over time?

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  • 11. Re: Three Charters - Many Points?   02/16/2007 04:40:24 PM PST
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You must participate in at least 30% of the teams games to be awarded points.


What if none of the members participate in any of the games? Can't they just farm free points?
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  • 12. Re: Three Charters - Many Points?   02/16/2007 04:40:47 PM PST
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So, essentially, I could make three charters (2vs2, 3vs3, 5vs5), enroll a bunch of players, then never play. The 1,500 points accumulated weekly would yield (according to the formula on your website):

5v5 Arena points: 408
3v3 Arena points: 245
2v2 Arena points: 163

816 free points a week for doing nothing. Although I realize you get a lot more for actually playing, isn't it a problem you can essentially farm free points without diminishing returns?


have to participate in 10 matches a week with that team to get any sort of points at all.


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What if none of the members participate in any of the games? Can't they just farm free points?


and you have to participate in a minimum percentage of your team's matches to be available for points, as well. no free points here. You have to fight your ass off for every one of 'em.

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  • 13. Re: Three Charters - Many Points?   02/16/2007 04:41:26 PM PST
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Additionally, those interested in the amount of weekly Arena Points awarded based on your team's ranking, you can find a handy calculator at:

http://www.boxspherical.com/arena/index.php
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  • 14. Re: Three Charters - Many Points?   02/16/2007 04:41:33 PM PST
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Or are you saying that you gain AP at the end of the week from all 3 teams now?


that was how i read his statement... but i'm pretty sure that isn't the case. i dunno.
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  • Smolderthorn
  • 15. Re: Three Charters - Many Points?   02/16/2007 04:44:43 PM PST
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What if none of the members participate in any of the games? Can't they just farm free points?


Considering you have to play a minimum of 10 games per week to gain points, this can't happen.
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  • 16. Re: Three Charters - Many Points?   02/16/2007 04:44:52 PM PST
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You will gain points separately for each charter. Maximizing your efforts on three teams will therefore see the best gains.

Arena points are awarded on a weekly basis, but will be tallied and awarded on Tuesday (during maintenance).

The award amounts have been adjusted slightly and break down in the following fashion:

5v5 matches will award a full allotment of arena points.

3v3 matches will award 80% of the allotment.

2v2 matches will award 60% of the allotment.


So it is 100% confirmed that you get arena points for all 3? Previously I had thought whichever one had the highest rating or whatever decided your points.
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  • 17. Re: Three Charters - Many Points?   02/16/2007 04:45:16 PM PST
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What if none of the members participate in any of the games? Can't they just farm free points?


No... you have to participate in at least 30% of your team's games to earn points, and your team must play 10 games a week.

And I'm pretty sure Tseric is mistaken, it conflicts with multiple previous blue posts stating that you only receive points for your "best" team's performance on any given week.

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  • 18. Re: Three Charters - Many Points?   02/16/2007 04:46:53 PM PST
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Will Arena Points be updated this (20th) Tuesday or the next?

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  • 19. Re: Three Charters - Many Points?   02/16/2007 04:46:55 PM PST
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No... you have to participate in at least 30% of your team's games to earn points, and your team must play 10 games a week.

And I'm pretty sure Tseric is mistaken, it conflicts with multiple previous blue posts stating that you only receive points for your "best" team's performance on any given week.

Sal


yeah i'm thinking tseric is mistaken too. bless his heart though, cause he usually does a good job!!
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