I'm a bank alt holding items to Power level blacksmithing. I have read Wilheim's guide and searched Thotbot, Wowhead and Alahazam extensively. I don't know about the rest of you, but thorium on my server is INSANELY expensive, thus, I developed guide (with material list) to level up. The line by line description doesn't have factors built in for not getting a skill up on every build, but my Mats list does.

Blacksmith Mats table

Item Needed
Rough Stone 126
Coarse Stone 135
Silver Bars 7
Bronze Bars 324
Heavy Stones 94
Iron Bars 546
Lesser Moonstones 42
Solid Stone 528
Mithril Bars 534
Dense Stone 14
Gold Bars 16
Heavy Leather 28
Citrine 2
Shadow Gems 8
Black Pearls 2
Thick Leather 4
Fel Iron Bars 140
Heart of fire * 100
Core of Earth * 100
Breath of wind * 100
Adamantite Bars 118
Netherweave cloth 70

* For these items, only need a total of 100

Apprentice
 Learn Apprentice Blacksmithing
 Create 25 Rough Sharpening Stones from 25 Rough Stone
 You should be level 25
 Learn Rough Grinding Stone
 Create 40 Rough Grinding Stones from 80 Rough Stones (You will need at least 10 of these later - save them all)
 You should be level 65
 Learn Coarse Sharpening Stones
 Create 10 Coarse Sharpening Stones from 10 Coarse Stones (You will need at least 50 of these later - you'll make more shortly)
 You should be level 75

Journeyman
 Learn Journeyman Blacksmithing
 Learn Coarse Grinding Stone
 Create 25 Coarse Grinding Stones from 50 Coarse Stones (You will need at least 50 of these later - you can not get above level 100 with this craft)
 You should be level 100
 Learn Silver Rod
 Create 5 Silver Rods from 5 Silver Bars and 10 Rough Grinding Stones
 You should be level 105
 Learn Rough Bronze Leggings
 Create 20 Rough Bronze Leggings from 120 Bronze Bars
 You should be level 125
 Learn Heavy Grinding Stone
 Create 26 Heavy Grinding Stone from 78 Heavy Stones (You will need at least 10 of these later)
 You should be level 150

Expert
 Learn Expert Blacksmithing
 Create 25 Rough Bronze Leggings from 150 Bronze Bars
 You should be level 175
 Learn Iron Counterweight
 Create 25 Iron Counterweights from 100 Iron Bars, 50 Coarse Grinding Stones and 25 Lesser Moonstones
 You should be level 200
 Learn Solid Grinding Stone
 Create 110 Solid Grinding Stones from 440 Solid Stone (You will need 110 of these later, even though you will only gain 10 levels from this)
 You should be level 210
 Learn Golden Scale Bracers
 Create 5 Golden Scale Bracers from 25 Steel Bars and 10 Heavy Grinding Stones
 You should be level 215
 Learn Massive Iron Axe
 Create 4 Massive Iron axes from 56 Iron Bars, 8 strong flux, 8 Heavy Grinding Stones, 16 gold bars and 8 heavy Leather
 You should be level 219
 Learn Moonsteel broadsword
 Create 4 moonsteel broadswords from 32 steel bars, 8 strong flux, 8 Heavy Grinding Stones, 12 lesser moonstones and 12 heavy leather
 You should be level 223
 Learn Steel Plate Helm
 Create 2 Steel Plate Helm 28 Steel Bars and 2 Solid Grinding Stones
 You should be level 225

Artisan
 Learn Artisan Blacksmithing
 Learn Steel Plate Helm
 Create 10 Steel Plate Helm 140 Steel Bars and 10 Solid Grinding Stones
 You should be level 235
 Learn Heavy Mithril Axe
 Create 2 Heavy Mithril axes from 24 mithril bars, 2 citrine, 2 solid grinding stones and 8 heavy leathers
 You should be level 237
 Learn Mithril Spurs
 Create 13 Mithril Spurs from 52 Mithril Bars and 39 Solid Grinding Stones
 You should be level 250
 Learn Dense Sharpening Stone
 Create 10 Dense Sharpening Stone from 10 Dense Stone
 You should be level 260
 Create 15 Mithril Spurs from 60 Mithril Bars and 45 Solid Grinding Stones
 You should be level 275
 Learn Big Black Mace
 Create 2 Big Black maces from 32 mithril bars, 2 black pearls, 8 shadowgems, 2 solid grinding stones and 4 thick leather.
 You should be level 277
 Get Weapon Smith
 Learn The three patterns Light Skyforge, emberforged and earthforged recipes
 Make 23 of these from 276 mitrhril bars and a combination of 92 Hearts of fire, cores of earth and Breathes of wind
 You should be level 300

Master
 Learn Master Blacksmithing
 Learn Fel Iron Plate gloves
Make 10 of these from 40 fel iron bars
You should be level 10
Learn Fel iron Plate Belt
make 5 of these from 20 fel iron bars
You should be level 315
Learn fel iron chain gloves
Create 5 of these from 25 fel iron bars
Learn Fel iron plate boots
Create 5 of these from 30 fel iron bars
You should be level 325
Learn Lesser Rune of Warding
Create 10 lesser rune of warding from 10 adamantite bars
You should be level 335
Learn Adamantite Cleaver
Create 5 adamantite cleavers from 40 adamantite bars
 You Should be Level 340
 Learn Lesser rune of shielding
 Create 10 lesser runes of shielding from 10 adamantine bars
 You Should be level 350
 Learn Adamantine Weightstone from being Honored with the Cenarion Expedition
 Create 10 Adamantine Weightstones from 10 adamantine bars and 20 Netherweave cloths
 You should be level 360
 Make BOP ultimate weapon at 360 (Lionheart executioner, Lunar Crescent, etc.)


This is the weaponsmith route, I'm sure you could adapt this to work for armorsmith.

If anyone uses this guide, please post and let everyone know accurate/inaccurate it is.

Also comments are VERY welcome

Thank you

I'm sure many here will appreciate your work. My only concern with what you've provided is that Breath of Wind, Hearts of fire and Cores of Earth are quite a bit more expensive than they were prior to the expansion.

On my server, each of those 3 sell for approx. 3 gold apiece. Sometimes much more. Factor in the rarity of some of them (Breath of Wind isn't that easy to come across for me) and it might be easier to to buy the Thorium. I was seeing prices from 15-25 gold per stack of thorium. Mithril really wasn't much better. If I was going to buy into the mithril, I might as well keep going through thorium.

I think what made me take the thorium route was the fact that I expected more opportunity to sell some thorium gear than any specialty weapon.

Judging by your list, the only other thing I would mention is the Mithril spurs and the counterweight. While they're not in as high demand (the pattern), they're not always accessible on the AH. That being said, having to find an alternate-route through tradeskilling can be a problem. I might suggest you find some alternatives to incorporate in the event someone can't find the spurs or the counterweight.

For the record, I leveled up my Blacksmithing from 1-350 only a week or two ago. I am quite sympathetic to your plight.

Good luck =)

Thanks for the response Harok

Thorium on my server has been around 30-40 gold a stack. Breathes of wind and cores of eartth are around 3 gold, but I've found pretty good deals on Hearts of fire. Just kept my eyes open, I mean I have quite a few levels left (I'm 65) before I level this skill, and still need to compile the mats for my BOP weapon (still in the air on which to make). So time is on my side.

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You Should be level 350
 Learn Adamantine Weightstone from being Honored with the Cenarion Expedition
 Create 10 Adamantine Weightstones from 10 adamantine bars and 20 Netherweave cloths
 You should be level 360

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Nope... it turns green at 355. The last 5 will take you a lot of Adamantite and Netherweave. I made 15 in a row without getting a point a few days ago. Very annoying.

Thanks for the heads up.
I'll see if anything would be able to fill in the gap here. I understand 350 to 375 is nasty to level. I did however account for some of that in my material list, but obviously not enough if you made 15 when they are green and didn't get one.

Any advice will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks again

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You should be level 275
 Learn Big Black Mace
 Create 2 Big Black maces from 32 mithril bars, 2 black pearls, 8 shadowgems, 2 solid grinding stones and 4 thick leather.
 You should be level 282 `

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If I am not mistaken you gained 7 points here from 2 Big Black Maces.

Yep, sorry, fixing
Thanks

elemental sharpening stone drop in MC i think. unless you already have it not sure how you goign to get it.

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 Create 30 of these out of 120 fel iron bars
 You Should be level 335
 Learn Fel Iron Chain Gloves
 Create 5 Fel iron Chain gloves from 25 fel iron bars

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Fel Iron Plate gloves are yellow at 310. (20 bars to go from 305 - 320) Green at 315(?)
Fel Iron Plate belt are yellow at 315. (20 bars to go from 310-315) Green at 320(?)
Fel Iron Chain gloves are yellow at 320... which means they are probably green at 325.

You might want to adjust your figures a bit. I am pretty certain that I used 2-3x the number of Fel Iron bars that you are estimating. To stay with orange Fel Iron recipes you will end up moving through the BP's by 330-335 - 9 bars (chain) 10 bars (plate). 335 - 340, all Fel Iron recipes are yellow or green.

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 You Should be Level 340
 Learn Lesser rune of shielding
 Create 10 lesser runes of shielding from 10 adamantine bars
 You Should be level 350

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Lesser runes of shielding are yellow at 340 when you learn the recipe. Green at 345.

It took me 35 runes to go from 340-350. Results might vary. The last point (349) was the tough one.

Thanks Legogirl and Nuberino
I'm editing my guide to make Plate gloves at 300 and increase all fel iron creations, trying to make only orange or yellow.

Keep it coming guys.

Well I am at the Moonsteel stage but need more ore. Mining is at 177 so I am off to the Badlands.

But I plan to farm for thorium when I can and know where it can be found.

Which that level 70 should not be to hard because if one of those elite Demons decides to bug me I will just kill it.

But this will help since I wnat to skill up Blacksmithing the cheapest and fastest way possible.

Something else to keep in mind, Crafting 'ultimate' weapons after 360 would cost you hundreds, if not thousands of gold.

If your goal is to achieve 375 in blacksmithing, you're going to have to go out and farm the recipes for the Ragesteel and Khorium sets. Aldor/Scryer recipes are the (slightly more expensive) alternative.

Check Wowhead for specifics on the one type of mob that drop each pattern piece of the khorium armor and ragesteel set.

I had better luck with the Khorium set as its mats were cheaper to buy/farm for me as a warrior.

For the record, I realize that has nothing to do with ignoring Thorium lol.

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Something else to keep in mind, Crafting 'ultimate' weapons after 360 would cost you hundreds, if not thousands of gold.

If your goal is to achieve 375 in blacksmithing, you're going to have to go out and farm the recipes for the Ragesteel and Khorium sets. Aldor/Scryer recipes are the (slightly more expensive) alternative.

Check Wowhead for specifics on the one type of mob that drop each pattern piece of the khorium armor and ragesteel set.

I had better luck with the Khorium set as its mats were cheaper to buy/farm for me as a warrior.

For the record, I realize that has nothing to do with ignoring Thorium lol.

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I never meant do it over and over, I just meant wait to 360 to craft it (be it the Lionheart executioner , Lunar Crescent, etc.)

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Well I am at the Moonsteel stage but need more ore. Mining is at 177 so I am off to the Badlands.

But I plan to farm for thorium when I can and know where it can be found.

Which that level 70 should not be to hard because if one of those elite Demons decides to bug me I will just kill it.

But this will help since I wnat to skill up Blacksmithing the cheapest and fastest way possible.

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I don't think the mobs are what concerns level 70 ore farmers anymore. I dont' know about anyone else, but I've been spoiled by my flying mount and readily available ores spread across the various regions.

When I was leveling my BS, I spent a little time trying to farm the thorium needed. After 3 hive runs in Silithus and 2 trips through the elite mobs in Winterspring, I decided to spend money rather than farm 3-400 ore. My own personal decision, but with the last minute decision to go blacksmithing, and my wish to be done with it, I just didn't want to spend days gathering what I needed.

Then again, I leveled to 70 with herbalism/mining, so I had a ton of money for the project.

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I never meant do it over and over, I just meant wait to 360 to craft it (be it the Lionheart executioner , Lunar Crescent, etc.)

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Ah ok, gotcha.

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doesn't have factors built in for not getting a skill up on every build, but my Mats list does.

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This I think is the Gotcha line.. you are basing your skill ups on a precarious number of greens skilling up 1 for everyone you make ( which in my experiance normally you need to make 2 or 3 minimum greens for 1 skill point ). This could actually make it more expensive than purchasing/farming the thorium once everything is calculated that you actually used between 275 and 300.

other than that it is nice to see options.

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This I think is the Gotcha line.. you are basing your skill ups on a precarious number of greens skilling up 1 for everyone you make ( which in my experiance normally you need to make 2 or 3 minimum greens for 1 skill point ). This could actually make it more expensive than purchasing/farming the thorium once everything is calculated that you actually used between 275 and 300.

other than that it is nice to see options.

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I am using a coeffecient when determining the number of bars, stones, etc on my materials list, just not on my directions. I don't want to tell anyone to create 20 items for 15 points and it only take 18. Any guidance you could give saying "it took me 18 tries to get the 10 points you specified" would be appreciated and shown accordingly in my materials list. (Like Nuberino did above).

I do see your point however. I would consider doing the thorium plate quests if thorium is cheaper when I hit 70 and have the mats for most other items. It is REALLY expensive right now though, but I would expect it to drop some.

Appreciate the feedback though.

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Well I am at the Moonsteel stage but need more ore. Mining is at 177 so I am off to the Badlands.

But I plan to farm for thorium when I can and know where it can be found.

Which that level 70 should not be to hard because if one of those elite Demons decides to bug me I will just kill it.

But this will help since I wnat to skill up Blacksmithing the cheapest and fastest way possible.

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I'm getting alot of feedback on the upper level items, do the lower level mats list compare with what you experienced?

Thanks

For earlier BS grinding...

Off the top of my head, I seem to remember needing more leather, though I couldn't tell you what recipe path I took. I did mostly follow the Powerleveling guide.

Am I mistaken or didn't some plans also require linen cloth...?

I do remember going through a ton of Green dye though. The Green armor recipes off the AH saved me a lot of trouble in gathering non-metals for mats.

[Edit: Not trying to complicate anything for you. Just working from memory]