Warrior PvE DPS:

It is a well known fact that warriors can, to the dismay of some, do some incredible dps. However many may wonder what is the best spec for warriors do dish out damage in PvE with. I have wondered this too. But, I was unable to test anything because as you see (armory me) I am not in the best of gear. Hell, my gear plain sucks. So when blizzard brought the premades back I jumped on the opportunity. Blizzard gave the premades some pretty nice dps gear and some pvp gear. I will be showing you the results of the best case test on each one

Every test was tested against a Servant of Razelikh. Each PvE dps test is based over a period of 6 minutes and 35 seconds
only buff was battleshout. every stat given in battlestance unbuffed

Information gathered using SW stats
I used the same specs for both the DW and 2h variations of each test. So each two hand test has more dps potential than stated due to lack of improved slam

Abilities used during these tests

Bloodthirst
Whirlwind
Heroic strike
Deathwish
Trinkets
Slam
Sword specialization


There will be more updates as I continue to test

Contents:
1.0 Item List
2.0 Tests
2.1 Full Fury
2.1.1 Dual wield
2.1.2 Two hand
2.2 Fury Swords
2.2.1 Dual wield
2.2.2 Two hand
2.3 Fury Axes
2.3.1 Dual wield
2.3.2 Two hand
2.4 MS combos
2.4.1 MS/flurry
2.5. Few Points in Prot
3.0 PvP viability: coming soon
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1.0
Here is the list of items I used in the tests:

Onslaught battlegear: http://www.wowhead.com/?itemset=672

Worgen claw necklace
Dra.pe of Dark Reavers
Bladespire Warbands
Lion’s Heart Girdle
Dreadboots of the Legion
Ring of a Thousand Marks
Violet Signet of the Master Assassin
Bloodlust Brooch
Tsunami talisman

Bloodlust Brooch and Worgen claw necklace were only used in the dual wielding tests

Adamantite chain of the Unbroken
Mooncleaver
Lionheart Champion
Gladiator’s right ripper
Gladiator’s left ripper
Gladiator’s slicer
Gladiator’s Quickblade
Gladiator’s Hacker
Gladiator’s Cleaver
Gladiator’s crossbow
Abacus of Violent Odds

Adamantite chain mooncleaver LH champ were only used in specific tests abacus was used in all two hand tests for rage gen used the glads fist weps for full fury test used glads swords for fury/swords and used glads axes for fury/axes

2.0 Tests
All attack stats should be read X times he used it of those time he crit Y times
deep wounds is a dot

(ver) 1.2

2.1 Full Fury

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/warrior/talents.html?303203013020000000000000505010550501205310510000000000000000000000

2.1.1 Dual Wield

Stats:			Melee stats:

Str    514      Crit	25.71%

Agi    350      Hit	154-- 9.77%

Stam   649      atk pwr	1568

Armor  10894			

Tsunami talisman procs:
Enrage procs: 2
deahtwish uses: 2
bloodlust brooch uses: 2

DPS: 837

Average damage                         Max damage                  Breakup		

Auto Attack: 413                       1536                        50.7%

335 attacks 11 misses 111 crits	



Bloodthirst: 1311                      3032                        22.5%

58 uses 18 crits



Heroic Strike: 956                     2050                        17%

60 uses 15 crits



Whirlwind: 705	                       1587                        7.6%

35 uses 11 crits



Deep Wounds: 115                       162                         2%

Basis for all fury pve dps this is my control which I will be comparing the other specs up against

2.1.2 Two Hand

Stats:                Melee Stats:

Str 514               Crit    27.46%

Agi 330               Hit    127 hit rating 8.05%

Stam 605              Atk Pwr   1602

Armor 10854

I switched out Worgen Claw necklace with Adamantite Chain of the unbroken
I replaced dual gladiator fist weps with Mooncleaver and replaced bloodlust brooch with abacus of violet odds. REMEMBER: I did not respec for this test. It is possible that your results may vary by picking up improved slam and dropping DW specialization

TT procs: 3
En procs: 3
DW uses: 3
abacus uses: 4

DPS: 825

AVG                                MAX                   Breakup

AA(autoattack) 1249                2250                  47.2%

118 attacks  38 crits



BT(bloodthirst) 1470               2508                  26.3%

53 uses 18 crits



WW(whirlwind) 1394                 2347                  14%

33 uses 14 crits



HS(heroicstrike) 1620              2855                  8.4%

14 uses 5 crits



DpW(deepwounds) 196                278                   4.8%

surprisingly i managed to pull of about the same dps. the problem is is that it seems to vary a whole lot as i mentioned before my other tests turned up widely different results. so it CAN work... but why WOULD you? if you really want to pvp but don't want to respec from full fury just slap on a two hander. and don't use rampage. it should work pretty nicely (though not nearly as well as MS)

(Ver) 1.2

2.2 Fury Swords

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/warrior/talents.html?303213213020005000000000505010440501205310000000000000000000000000


2.2.1 Dual Wield

I used the same gear for this test as the full fury dps test except I’m using gladiators slicer and quickblade same stats

TT procs: 5
EN procs: 1
BB uses: 3
DW uses: 2

DPS: 846

AVG                               MAX                  Breakup

AA: 352                           1275                 41.1%

399 attacks 17 misses 24 crits

HS: 927                           1818                 23%

71 uses 24 crits

BT: 1182                          2501                 21.3%

56 uses 1 miss 22 crits

WW: 649                           1349                 6.7%

35 uses 5 crits

SS(swordspec): 64                 1248                 6.5%

26 attacks 9 crits

DpW: 100                          167                  1.4%

This spec really surprised me. At first I didn’t think that it was going to out do full fury for the lack of improved beserker stance. But as I started testing I was looking into my combat log. On one of my tests I had just as many sword spec procs as I had whirlwinds having the fast offhander and sword spec proccing off of everything but itself really made this a valuable asset to the dps. it does about the same as my full fury test. but it also has more pvp viability (throw on a two hander now you have sword spec with everything else :P)

sword spec doesn't use teh weapon that procced it for teh attack it uses teh main hand weapon even if the offhand made the attack. i'm going to do some testing to see if it will proc without a mainhand sword. it will proc less though

RESTESTING

2.2.2 Two Hand

same gear as two handed full fury test except using lionheart champion

Stats:                      Melee:

Str: 563                    26.44% crit

Agi: 374                    127 hit 8.05%

Stam:605                    1572 atk pwr

Armor: 10942

TT: 4
EN: 6
Abacus: 3
DW: 2
Lionheart: 14

DPS: 691. I think it is the same issue with variability with the two hander

AVG                      MAX          Breakdown

AA 1028                  1986         41.4%

118 attacks 35 crits

BT 1050                  2232         21.1%

59 uses 15 crits

WW 984                   1706         12.4%

37 uses 10 crits

HS 1247                  2520         10.2%

24 uses 6 crits

SS 1023                  1933         7.3%

21 attacks 6 crits

DpW 165                  229          5.4%

Slam 1259                1814         2.1%

5 uses 2 crits

definitely doesn’t do as well from a pve aspect. On a second note remember I didn’t pick up improved slam. This is the same spec as the DW fury/swords spec. I did run into some arenas with this spec cause it seemed really fun. Surprisingly enough we won most of them and I did more burst damage than MS. However the lack of the debuff takes a heavy toll on viability in pvp.

next up fury axes. maybe i'll get some crazy results

with all the two handers it seems the variable is how much rage you generate. i noticed on the high dps tests i constantly had rage. on the low dps tests i had very little rage. i was hoping dragging it out to 6 and a half minutes would eliminate taht but it appears to have an extremely large effect

2.3 Fury Axes
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/warrior/talents.html?350013213025000000000000505010440501205310000000000000000000000000

Same gear as full fury spec. except Gladiators cleaver and Gladiator’s Hacker
Same stats as full fury and fury swords DW except 30.71% chance to crit

TT: 5
EN: 3
DW: 2
BB: 3

DPS: 799

AVG					MAX		Breakdown

AA: 361					1181		46.9%

413 attacks 162 crits 18 misses

BT: 1227				2259		22.4%

58 uses 28 crits

HS:  938				1753		20.6%

70 uses 26 crits

WW: 764					1424		8.6%

36 uses 16 crits

DpW: 106				140		1.4%

Didn’t get quite as good results. The extra 5% did seem to make a difference. But I got to the point where I was feeling that it wasn’t critting as much as it should be.maybe its just cause I had finished testing fury swords when I did this so I was used to seeing sword spec proc every 10-15 seconds and having a lot of those procs crit that just seeing more crits didn’t seem that appealing

RETESTING

2.3.2 Two Hand

same gear as full fury 2 hand test
same stats except 32.48% chance to crit

TT: 4
EN: 4
AB: 4
DW: 2

DPS: 707

AVG					MAX		Breakdown

AA: 1122				2138		46.4%

116 attacks 47 crits

BT: 1063				2009		22.7%

60 uses 19 crits

WW:1090					1945		14%

36 uses 14 crits

HS: 1478				2497		12.2%

27 uses 11 crits

DpW: 163				246		4.7%

same issue with dps depending on rage generated :| probably has some pretty good pvp viability but with resilience i would probably rather have sword spec myself just my opinion

2.4.1

MS/Flurry

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/warrior/talents.html?050050203520105200010005500010400521205000000000000000000000000000

same gear same stats as two hand fury swords

LH: 12
TT: 3
EN: 5
DW: 2
AB: 3

DPS: 814

AVG 					MAX				Breakdown

AA: 1150				2081				41.2%

117 attacks 42 crits

MS: 1339				2793				22.2%

54 uses 12 crits

Slam: 1448				2479				15.5%

35 uses 14 crits

WW: 1051				2153				10.6%

33 uses 8 crits

DpW: 180				222				5%

SS: 1037				1851				3.8%

12 procs 3 crits

HS: 1869				2341				1.7%

3 uses 2 crits

one of those high rage tests. Also, this talent build has imp slam in it which I used heavily the other two handed tests didn’t you would probably see a more balanced increase in dps if you picked up imp slam in the other builds. Its still up to you in my opinion though I would just stick with fury in raids. It scales better.

2.5 Few Points in Prot

2.5.1 Fury/prot

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/warrior/talents.html?000000000000000000000000505010420501205010000055511030020120500000

Stats		Melee

Str	525	AP	1568

Agi	350	Hit	154 (9.77%)

Stam	649	Crit	25.71%

AC	11913	

BB 3
DW 2
TT 5
EN 5

DPS 714

AVG				MAX		BD



AA: 385				1542		54.9%

402 hits 122 crits 35 misses

BT: 1096			2129		23.3%

60 attacks 17 crits

HS: 927				1730		14.1%

43 attacks 13 crits

WW: 630				1415		7.7%

34 attacks 6 crits

rather odd results. on one hand we have the 10% one-hand wep spec making a large difference then we have it making a small difference. no idea how this spec would hold up if you planned on offtanking but it would definitely work better than the other dps specs i've posted (for tanking).

Special Thanks:
blizzard for making such an awesome class as a warrior
Everyone that has come to the thread and helped me out
Ciderhelm for letting me put this on tankspot
there will be more ;P

Great post! Requesting a sticky now.

reserved for reserved input

Yay for the PTR =P

NVM, re-read the OP.

Saving this for further comments =]

Reserving a spot as this could be an interesting post.

Guildie Reserving spot.

Go Go Teragon!

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Guildie Reserving spot.

Go Go Teragon!

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=) thanks

btw the full fury results are up

fury swords dual wielding test is up

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Q u o t e:
Oh, wow. That test makes me want to reroll swordsmithing. Maybe I will go for the Gladiators sword this week instead of the mace.

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your gear sure looks like it can take it. remember though none of my dual wielding tests had haste effects with them so with your dragonmaw it might change things

You said the only buff was battleshout. does this mean you weren't using Rampage on the DW Fury test?

Also you say the test was 6:35 (395 seconds) and you have 51 Bloodthirsts, which is 51 * 6 = 306 seconds, which means you managed your rage very poorly, you only managed to get 77% of your potential from Bloodthirst, which is THE most important skill for DPS and rage per damage.

You'll never get 100%, but you should be over 90% for sure.

Part of the sword spec improvement is going to be due to the fact that you fit 5 extra bloodthirsts into the same timeframe, which means you managed rage better.