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  • Thorium Brotherhood
  • 0. What is the point of white item merchants?   08/07/2007 01:30:45 PM PDT
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Just something I was wondering about, what's the point of all the common quality weapons and armor?

Are they just there so players always have a way to train weapon skills with various types of weapons, independent of what's up on the AH?

Are the common quality weapons and armor a baseline from which greens, blues, and epics are based on?

Are they what classes wear when you do balance testing?

Are they just there to make the world seem more real? (In that an armor shop does, in fact, sell armor, just not any armor you would want to use.)

Why should you get to play the Scourge campaign without completing the Human campaign 400 times on Easy? You just want to experience all the content without investing any time.
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  • 1. Re: What is the point of white item merchants   08/07/2007 01:35:05 PM PDT
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Q u o t e:
Just something I was wondering about, what's the point of all the common quality weapons and armor?

Are they just there so players always have a way to train weapon skills with various types of weapons, independent of what's up on the AH?

Are the common quality weapons and armor a baseline from which greens, blues, and epics are based on?

Are they what classes wear when you do balance testing?

Are they just there to make the world seem more real? (In that an armor shop does, in fact, sell armor, just not any armor you would want to use.)


QFT, I wouldn't even buy them for the graphis. Also the greens on AH are cheaper (at least ones you would train weapons skills with).

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  • Thorium Brotherhood
  • 2. Re: What is the point of white item merchants   08/07/2007 01:37:34 PM PDT
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I would like a blue response, I lie awake at night thinking about this.

Why should you get to play the Scourge campaign without completing the Human campaign 400 times on Easy? You just want to experience all the content without investing any time.
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  • Steamwheedle Cartel
  • 3. Re: What is the point of white item merchants   08/07/2007 02:42:10 PM PDT
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someone must sell da bagelz.
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  • 4. Re: What is the point of white item merchants   08/07/2007 02:51:30 PM PDT
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Q u o t e:
someone must sell da bagelz.
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  • 5. Re: What is the point of white item merchants   08/07/2007 02:57:02 PM PDT
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Somewhere that you can repair your gear? JUST MAYBE?
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  • Doomhammer
  • 6. Re: What is the point of white item merchants   08/07/2007 02:58:47 PM PDT
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I do not imagine the weapons and armor sold by most vendors are meant to add anything other than a sense of flavor to the game itself, much as Griftah and his trinkets of overpricedness. Once in a while though, common vendors that offer repair services through out the world will sell items of green quality on a limited bases. A thrifty buyer may be able to find a piece of gear if they are lucky.

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  • 7. Re: What is the point of white item merchants   08/07/2007 02:59:00 PM PDT
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White items are generally used as an inexpensive way of working up a weapon skill by some players since the dps is lower than a higher quality item. So, you can whack on a mob for longer and get more skill out if it than ripping through all the mobs in an area with a blue or purple item.

Some people like to buy some of the merchant items just to have them for flavor too.

There is a method to the madness for item quality and what is referred to as an item budget. Better quality items have a higher budget so often have a few more stat points available to them.

As far as internal balance testing goes, it depends on what the QA team is testing for. Generally we're looking at what we think players should be using or have available to them for a particular encounter or what we want the difficulty level of an encounter to be with certain itemization available.

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  • Darkspear
  • 10. Re: What is the point of white item merchants   08/07/2007 03:01:31 PM PDT
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I think the real question is why the white armor sets look better than some blue sets...

Like the Scale armor in redridge looks awesome but the stats suck...you should use these skins on otehr armor me thinks.

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  • 11. Re: What is the point of white item merchants   08/07/2007 03:02:05 PM PDT
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they should sell gray items

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  • 12. Re: What is the point of white item merchants   08/07/2007 03:02:11 PM PDT
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i has a flavor

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  • Steamwheedle Cartel
  • 13. Re: What is the point of white item merchants   08/07/2007 03:02:48 PM PDT
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Q u o t e:
I do not imagine the weapons and armor sold by most vendors are meant to add anything other than a sense of flavor to the game itself, much as Griftah and his trinkets of overpricedness. Once in a while though, common vendors that offer repair services through out the world will sell items of green quality on a limited bases. A thrifty buyer may be able to find a piece of gear if they are lucky.


The Griftah is gone in the PTR....He has been arrested and some Scyer is collecting evidence in his tent.

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  • 14. Re: What is the point of white item merchants   08/07/2007 03:05:06 PM PDT
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There is a method to the madness for item quality and what is referred to as an item budget. Better quality items have a higher budget so often have a few more stat points available to them.

As far as internal balance testing goes, it depends on what the QA team is testing for. Generally we're looking at what we think players should be using or have available to them for a particular encounter or what we want the difficulty level of an encounter to be with certain itemization available.


To elaborate on this point, the amount of stats on an item and the DPS a weapon provides is determined through a series of formulas that are expounded upon at http://www.wowwiki.com/Formulas:Item_Values for your perusal.

Note that stat point allocation formulas don't really have much bearing on the actual benefit people will see out of an item.
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  • 15. Re: What is the point of white item merchants   08/07/2007 03:06:03 PM PDT
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Q u o t e:
Flavor.


They provide repair services throughout the world and some flavor too.
Imagine if you went up to a weapons vendor, even if just for repair and selling purposes, and he didn't have any weapons to sell, you would wonder why he is called a weapons vendor. That's the flavor part.

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  • Thorium Brotherhood
  • 16. Re: What is the point of white item merchants   08/07/2007 03:07:16 PM PDT
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Q u o t e:
White items are generally used as an inexpensive way of working up a weapon skill by some players since the dps is lower than a higher quality item. So, you can whack on a mob for longer and get more skill out if it than ripping through all the mobs in an area with a blue or purple item.

Some people like to buy some of the merchant items just to have them for flavor too.

There is a method to the madness for item quality and what is referred to as an item budget. Better quality items have a higher budget so often have a few more stat points available to them.

As far as internal balance testing goes, it depends on what the QA team is testing for. Generally we're looking at what we think players should be using or have available to them for a particular encounter or what we want the difficulty level of an encounter to be with certain itemization available.


That's what I suspected - thanks for the response! :D

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  • 17. Re: What is the point of white item merchants   08/07/2007 03:12:01 PM PDT
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Q u o t e:
i has a flavor


I see what you did there...
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  • Runetotem
  • 18. Re: What is the point of white item merchants   08/07/2007 03:12:49 PM PDT
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Because Latino item merchants aren't supported by the lore.
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  • Argent Dawn
  • 19. Re: What is the point of white item merchants   08/07/2007 03:16:41 PM PDT
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Savor the Flavor!

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