World of Warcraft

1 . 2 . 3 . 4 . 5 . 6 . 7 . 8 . 9
70
View All Posts by This User Toggle Ignore / Unignore This User
  • Scarlet Crusade
  • 1. Re: Lost epic flying skill   04/10/2008 09:38:29 AM PDT
quote locked
They actualy told you to spend another 5000g to pay for one of Blizzard's mistakes? I hope you told him to shove 5000g up his buttocks. I would have.
70
View All Posts by This User Toggle Ignore / Unignore This User
  • Hyjal
  • 2. Re: Lost epic flying skill   04/10/2008 09:42:47 AM PDT
quote locked
In most cases, if the loss was due to a server roll-back, then there are no logs to verify that you had indeed had the skill.

Not saying that you actually didn't, but I believe they need to be able to see it in their logs in order to restore the skill.

Maybe a Blue will come in and say differently, and I do hope that is the case.

Good Luck. :)

"When the rich wage war, it's the poor who die." -Linkin Park (Minutes to Midnight)
10
View All Posts by This User Toggle Ignore / Unignore This User
  • Dath'Remar
  • 4. Re: Lost epic flying skill   04/10/2008 09:52:12 AM PDT
quote locked

Q u o t e:
i at last was able to get my flying skill, i got it on a monday used it til the server went down for updates on tuesday morning, when i got back on the skill wasnt there, but i still have my epic flying mount ? but can no longer use it, i talked to gms they said they cant find my history, so they dont know why i have the epic mount but no skill, all they said is i have to buy the skill again, i talked to many gms every day for a month, then after that the gms said i waited too long , what else can i do? i talked to gms i sent emails to Blizz at this point im getting to i dont even fell like playing anymore and thinking of quiting my 3 accounts and cancelling them, the lack of help is very frustrating, one of the GMs said that it sucks to be me! what else can i do, blizz is ignore n me and will not help me so im posting this maybe someone in blizz will do something to help


Had you bought the mount a fair time before the rollback, or around the same time?

[ Post edited by Kobol ]

80
View All Posts by This User Toggle Ignore / Unignore This User
  • Dragonmaw
  • 5. Re: Lost epic flying skill   04/10/2008 09:55:42 AM PDT
quote locked
Although they may not be able to verify the purchase of epic flying skill due to server rollback, Blizzard should at least be able to take a look at your money logs up to the server rollback time and make sure that you have not somehow mysteriously lost 5000g with nothing to show for it.


Q u o t e:
Don't beg for things; do it yourself, or you won't get anything.
23
View All Posts by This User Toggle Ignore / Unignore This User
  • Thorium Brotherhood
  • 6. Re: Lost epic flying skill   04/10/2008 09:59:53 AM PDT
quote locked
I'm fairly certain the server would log everything up to the exact second that it initiated a rollback or a restart/shutdown. If it didn't and you do not have the skill or the money. Petition a GM and tell them you're money is missing as well. They can verify where the gold went, if you're lucky.

no
80
View All Posts by This User Toggle Ignore / Unignore This User
  • 7. Re: Lost epic flying skill   04/10/2008 10:03:00 AM PDT
quote locked
Unless the mount was purchased before the skill, shouldn't the mount have vanished as well?
10
View All Posts by This User Toggle Ignore / Unignore This User
  • Dath'Remar
  • 8. Re: Lost epic flying skill   04/10/2008 10:04:44 AM PDT
quote locked

Q u o t e:
Unless the mount was purchased before the skill, shouldn't the mount have vanished as well?


Yeah, that's why I asked.

And I hate to say it, but considering the price of the mount to the skill, it does look a bit funny.
71
View All Posts by This User Toggle Ignore / Unignore This User
  • Thorium Brotherhood
  • 9. Re: Lost epic flying skill   04/10/2008 10:05:54 AM PDT
quote locked

Q u o t e:
Unless the mount was purchased before the skill, shouldn't the mount have vanished as well?


Not necessarily.

"Rejoice. For very bad things are about to happen." - Richard LFGComic
80
View All Posts by This User Toggle Ignore / Unignore This User
  • Dragonmaw
  • 10. Re: Lost epic flying skill   04/10/2008 10:07:06 AM PDT
quote locked
My skeptical side is telling me this is nothing more than a poorly engineered scam attempt.

But I'm willing to give the OP the benefit of the doubt; perhaps the money got moved back to a bank alt or something.


Q u o t e:
Don't beg for things; do it yourself, or you won't get anything.
80
View All Posts by This User Toggle Ignore / Unignore This User
  • 11. Re: Lost epic flying skill   04/10/2008 10:07:40 AM PDT
quote locked
nt

[ Post edited by Beephstu ]


Imagine how your rage post would have changed if you didn't post immediately after your death.
23
View All Posts by This User Toggle Ignore / Unignore This User
  • Thorium Brotherhood
  • 12. Re: Lost epic flying skill   04/10/2008 10:08:17 AM PDT
quote locked

Q u o t e:
Unless the mount was purchased before the skill, shouldn't the mount have vanished as well?


Some people don't realize that EVERYTHING is logged in the server world. Just like people who come claiming about things they lost with a server rollback, the blues know if you're telling the truth. They don't wait every 5 mins to log something, its constantly updated. Even when a server down it is still updating to a log somewhere that it is down. Its kinda like a server farm company. They have machines in a different location in a building constantly doing ping -t server.ip.address.here and every time it goes down its logged to prove the uptime.

People are thick. Can't wait till a blue proves him lying just like that other guy and his vortex.

no
80
View All Posts by This User Toggle Ignore / Unignore This User
  • 14. Re: Lost epic flying skill   04/10/2008 10:49:10 AM PDT
quote locked

Q u o t e:

There have been other people who have posted about rollbacks affecting their character, but not their items. Within the past few days someone posted about leveling up their engineering, and then the server was rolled back. Their skill was at the level it was before the rollback, but they still possessed the items they created from leveling the skill but not the mats.


Huh, that's pretty interesting. I didn't know rollbacks could affect characters and items differently.
Blizzard Entertainment
View All Posts by This User ignore-inactive
Auryk
Blizzard Poster
  • 15. Re: Lost epic flying skill   04/10/2008 02:53:43 PM PDT
quote locked
Alright, Kiranth, sorry for the delay I had a lot of information to look through. Seeing as how this took place about two months ago, the logs were a little harder to look up. Let me go though, step by step, and detail the turn of events as I see them:



You first petition in on Saturday, 02/16/2008 at approximately 02:09:10(GMT) asking that we look into your missing flight skill that you claim to have purchased five days prior. In that petition you declare that you purchased the epic riding skill on Sunday with the money you had been saving up for two months and were playing “till the servers went down for maintenance on Monday morning.”

According to my records you were offline when the Game Master attempted to contact you. So as you said, they sent you an e-mail.

I see that you re-petition in that same day, almost nine hours later at 11:10:44(GMT). Here you mention that you are missing the riding skill that you just leaned on Monday, and that you played all night until you were kicked off Tuesday morning.

Again, I see that you were not online when the Game Master received your petition, so they send you a second e-mail stating that they were unable to verify the loss of the gold on this skill.

The very next day 02/17/2008 you petition in twice more; once at 03:33:01(GMT), which (as you have even stated here in this post) mentioning that you borrowed most of the gold to be able to purchase this skill. Unfortunately this was also received while you were offline; e-mail sent asking you for more information on the issue – specifically a timeframe of when this happened. The second being, at 15:39:25, where you actually got to speak to a Game Master, who informs you that they are unable to verify that you ever purchased this skill.

After that I see no contact being made with anyone from our In-Game Customer Support Department until 03/06/2008 at 20:04:07(GMT). At this point it has already been over three and a half weeks since you said you have purchased the epic flying riding skill. Again you get in contact with a Game Master while online, and they inform you that they are unable to verify you purchasing the skill and apologize, letting you know that they are not going to be able to reimburse you for the skill.

Since then I see no further contact with us until this post, which ambiguously mentions that on “a Monday” you got the skill and no longer have it, and would like it to be looked into.




I understand that you were unable to petition in via the in-game client, whether it was because your account’s billing cycle had lapsed, as you say in your third petition – due to the fact that you were away on a trip, as you claim in your fifth petition – or because you had to get a new computer (including a “fairly good graphics card” and double the ram of your old computer) as you told your guildmates – however in the future, I would recommend that you take the time to send an e-mail into WoWGM@Blizzard.com if you ever experience an issue that is fairly important to you. This way we can look into it as soon as it takes place.

I have a feeling, however, that in this specific case would not have done much good, if any at all. The reason I say this is because upon doing a few searches of my own, I see that at 2/11/08 at approximately 20:48:45(GMT) you zone into the Outlands with 149 gold 98 silver and 42 copper. I see that at 21:38:05(GMT) you purchase your Red Riding Nether Ray (which at Exalted with Sha'tari Skyguard costs 160 gold). Following that, you log out with about 14g99s42c, congratulations on your Primal Waters selling. :0)

A search within a few days of this purchase shows that at no time did you have the 5000(ish) gold that is required for purchasing the riding skill itself.

I also find it a bit confusing when you mention on 03/01/2008 between 20:12:20 and 20:12:51 that you, “cant wait for the faster mount” because you “just need the skill [cause you] already have Red Riding Nether Ray




I hope this clears up any confusion or frustration you may have about this situation, the only thing I have left is that I would like to take this time to remind you of our stance on Defrauding or Attempting to Defraud a GM, Kiranth. Whenever possible, we try to give players the benefit of the doubt in questionable situations. We honestly hope players do not attempt to take advantage of this trust, and provide their full cooperation. However, if we later find that an attempt was made to defraud a GM, the offending player may have action taken against them. Attempts to defraud a GM include, but are not limited to, misdirecting a GM's attention, withholding information, providing false information, and any attempt to "trick" a GM.




.
Every shadow, no matter how deep, is threatened by morning light.
70
View All Posts by This User Toggle Ignore / Unignore This User
  • Laughing Skull
  • 16. Re: Lost epic flying skill   04/10/2008 02:59:15 PM PDT
quote locked
Owned.
20
View All Posts by This User Toggle Ignore / Unignore This User
  • 17. Re: Lost epic flying skill   04/10/2008 03:00:01 PM PDT
quote locked
Wow.

Just wow.

29
View All Posts by This User Toggle Ignore / Unignore This User
  • 18. Re: Lost epic flying skill   04/10/2008 03:00:24 PM PDT
quote locked
All I can is Aurykowned.

Squeak - Oook Eeek
FYI: They are not special characters.
80
View All Posts by This User Toggle Ignore / Unignore This User
  • 19. Re: Lost epic flying skill   04/10/2008 03:06:50 PM PDT
quote locked

Q u o t e:
I also find it a bit confusing when you mention on 03/01/2008 between 20:12:20 and 20:12:51 that you, “cant wait for the faster mount” because you “just need the skill [cause you] already have Red Riding Nether Ray”


This occurs two weeks AFTER the first petition claiming the loss of the 300 riding skill.

That comment from Auryk about "defrauding a GM"....

Better take that seriously. They really don't like that.

/popcorn


If you want to be heard, don't give them a reason to shut you down.
1 . 2 . 3 . 4 . 5 . 6 . 7 . 8 . 9
Forum Nav : Jump To This Forum
Blizzard Entertainment