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  • 0. Mage Guide: Best PvE Raiding Set   04/06/2008 12:34:27 PM PDT
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Now that Sunwell is out, I've decided to create a list for Mages, so they know what the best gear they can get is.

I already had a general idea in my head, but after talking everything over with Unbind, i think we came up with the final set.

**NOTE: This list is if you are a Tailor/Enchant**

Helm: Cowl of the Tempest - Archimonde
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=31056

Use a Chaotic Skyfire Diamond (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34220)
Use a Runed Crimson Spinal (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32196)

Enchant: +22 damage/ 14 Spell Hit Head Enchant (Sha'tar Quartermaster)
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Neck: Amulet of Unfettered Magics - Eredar Twins
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34204

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Shoulders: Amice of the Convoker - Eredar Twins
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34210

Use a Runed Crimson Spinal (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32196)
Use a Reckless Pyrestone (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=35760)

Enchant: Either use Aldor Exalted Shoulders Enchant, or Scyer Exalted Shoulders Enchant
Note: If you are Scryer, the Naxx Shoulder enchant is better. (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=23545)
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Cloak: Cloak of the Illidari Council - Illidari Council
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32331

Enchant: Either Subtlety or Spell Pen
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Chest: Sunfire Robes - Crafted (Tailoring)
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=35206

Use a Runed Crimson Spinal (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32196) for all sockets.

Enchant: +6 to all stats
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Bracers: Bracers of the Tempest - Kalecgos
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34447

Use a Runed Crimson Spinal (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32196)

Enchant: +15 Spell Damage
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Gloves: Gloves of Tyri's Power - Kil'Jaeden
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34406

Use a Runed Crimson Spinal (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32196)
Use a Reckless Pyrestone (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=35760)

Enchant: +20 Spell Damage
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Belt: Belt of the Tempest - Brutallus
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34557

Use a Reckless Pyrestone (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=35760)
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Legs: Leggings of Calamity - Brutallus
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34181

Use a Runed Crimson Spinal (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32196) x2
Use a Reckless Pyrestone (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=35760)

Enchant / Legpatch: +35 Spell Damage / +20 Stamina
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Boots: Boots of the Tempest - Felymst
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34574

Use a Reckless Pyrestone (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=35760)

Enchant: Boar's Speed [+9 Stamina, Run Speed]
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Ring 1: Mana Attuned Band - 3rd Chest Drop in ZA
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=33497

Enchant: +12 Spell Damage
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Ring 2: Loop of Forged Power - Crafted (Jewelcrafting)
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34362

Enchant: +12 Spell Damage
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Trinket 1: The Skull of Gul'dan - Illidan Stormrage
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32483
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Trinket 2: Hex Shrunken Head - Hex Lord Malacrass
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=33829
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Weapon: Sunflare - Kil'Jaeden
<No wowhead.com link at this time>
http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/january/sunwell_loots.jpg
Note: The above link was the PTR weapon, it may be slightly different now.

Enchant: Sunfire (+50 Fire Damage/+50 Arcane Damage) or Soulfrost (+54 Frost Damage)
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Off-Hand: Chronicle of Dark Secrets - Rage Winterchill
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30872
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Wand: Wand of the Demonsoul - Sunwell Trash
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34347

Use a Reckless Pyrestone (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=35760)
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Note: With this gearset, you must sub in 2 Glowing Shadowsong Amethyst (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32215) to get your meta socket to work.

Note: With this gear set, you have 150 Spell Hit Rating. Therefore, I strongly advise subing in 3 Veiled Pyrestone (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32221). Yes, it is better to use these gems then to get a +15 Spell Hit Rating Enchant to gloves. Already compared them :-).


Enjoy. :-)
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  • Durotan
  • 1. Re: Mage Guide: Best PvE Raiding Set   04/06/2008 12:45:11 PM PDT
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Nice list i wasn't aware of the trash wand drop, looking forward to getting my hands on that!

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  • 3. Re: Mage Guide: Best PvE Raiding Set   04/06/2008 01:00:51 PM PDT
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Q u o t e:
You failed as soon as you mentioned +12 damage. If you are in that level of content, haste will outweigh damage. By a large amount.

Reckless Pyrestone are fine for gem bonuses.

Some exceptions may apply. See your local mage dealer for more info.


At Top end content - 1 Haste = 1 damage roughly.

So the only way a Reckless Pyrestone is better then a +12 is if it is a yellow socket, and it yields at +dmg bonus.

Do the math yourself, buddy, if you dont believe me.
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  • 5. Re: Mage Guide: Best PvE Raiding Set   04/06/2008 01:39:17 PM PDT
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Q u o t e:


At Top end content - 1 Haste = 1 damage roughly.

So the only way a Reckless Pyrestone is better then a +12 is if it is a yellow socket, and it yields at +dmg bonus.

Do the math yourself, buddy, if you dont believe me.


Actually it's more like 1 dmg = 0.8 haste which means the gemming dps wize is a wash favoring spinels based on DPM. Assuming full sunwell set.

[ Post edited by Etherealz ]


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  • 6. Re: Mage Guide: Best PvE Raiding Set   04/06/2008 01:43:52 PM PDT
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Ah this is nice. I've been in need of a good end game raiding set now but too lazy to update my 2.3 list to include 2.4 gear.

[ Post edited by Ped ]

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  • 7. Re: Mage Guide: Best PvE Raiding Set   04/06/2008 01:44:36 PM PDT
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Q u o t e:


Actually it's more like 1 dmg = 0.8 haste which means the gemming dps wize is a wash favoring spinels based on DPM. Assuming full sunwell set.


If we want to be exact, at 1323 or something, 1 damage = 1 haste. But it is very close to that amout of damage when haste = dmg.
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  • 8. Re: Mage Guide: Best PvE Raiding Set   04/06/2008 01:48:55 PM PDT
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Although, I dream about all those every day, dunno when (if ever) I will see them on me.

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  • 9. Re: Mage Guide: Best PvE Raiding Set   04/06/2008 02:00:10 PM PDT
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Q u o t e:


If we want to be exact, at 1323 or something, 1 damage = 1 haste. But it is very close to that amout of damage when haste = dmg.


Flask, food, impds, wrath of air, wizard oil.




NEXT

If you TC with unbuffed stats you should be shot

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  • 10. Re: Mage Guide: Best PvE Raiding Set   04/06/2008 02:37:07 PM PDT
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Ok i've calulated the final unbuffed stats for all the gear/enchants/gems/bonuses given by the OP

Stamina: 52 base + 384 = 436
Intellect: 149 base + 368 = 517
Spirit: 301 base + 115 = 416
Spell haste rating: 380
Spell hit rating: 150
Spell crit rating: 264
Spell damage: 1382 fire damage

fire crit chance: 28.3325% (31.3325 with molten armor)
haste: 24.2% (fireball goes down to 2.4 seconds cast)
hit chance = 14.9%

Note: These calculations are assuming a spec of 10/48/3 or 2/48/11.

[ Post edited by Ped ]

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  • 11. Re: Mage Guide: Best PvE Raiding Set   04/06/2008 02:41:24 PM PDT
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wtb new cloak, new trinket.
and i am not pleased with going back to hyjal to get that offhand.
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  • 12. Re: Mage Guide: Best PvE Raiding Set   04/06/2008 02:49:14 PM PDT
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Yet another nice thread with gear tips, thanks!
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  • 13. Re: Mage Guide: Best PvE Raiding Set   04/06/2008 04:40:55 PM PDT
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Q u o t e:
Ok i've calulated the final unbuffed stats for all the gear/enchants/gems/bonuses given by the OP

Stamina: 52 base + 384 = 436
Intellect: 149 base + 368 = 517
Spirit: 301 base + 115 = 416
Spell haste rating: 380
Spell hit rating: 150
Spell crit rating: 264
Spell damage: 1382 fire damage

fire crit chance: 28.3325% (31.3325 with molten armor)
haste: 24.2% (fireball goes down to 2.4 seconds cast)
hit chance = 14.9%

Note: These calculations are assuming a spec of 10/48/3 or 2/48/11.


I'd assume these calculations are with the given gems?

-15 Spell Haste, and 12 dmg, but add 15 hit and 14 stam. Thats what it will be with the given gem switches at the bottom of my post.

[ Post edited by Afflic ]

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  • 14. Re: Mage Guide: Best PvE Raiding Set   04/06/2008 05:19:03 PM PDT
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Q u o t e:

I'd assume these calculations are with the given gems?



Q u o t e:
Ok i've calulated the final unbuffed stats for all the gear/enchants/gems/bonuses given by the OP

[ Post edited by Ped ]

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  • 15. Re: Mage Guide: Best PvE Raiding Set   04/06/2008 05:22:32 PM PDT
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A good fire mage list. My list would be somewhat different.

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  • 16. Re: Mage Guide: Best PvE Raiding Set   04/06/2008 05:40:56 PM PDT
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I believe swapping these items would be better

T6 helm + tyri's + chronicle (15 short of hit cap)

DMG 151 + 14 (extra socket + bonus over t6 gloves)
HIT 30
CRIT 52
HASTE 36
INT 84

Illidan helm + t6 gloves + heart of the pit (4 hit below the cap)

DMG 154
HIT 41
CRIT 66
HASTE 32
INT 78

Ok so you gain 12 spell damage in gems from the extra hit.
Int is ~ 1 spelldmg in favor of the OP's setup.

compare

OP setup
166 dmg
52 crit
36 haste

My setup
166 dmg
66 crit
32 haste

[ Post edited by Etherealz ]


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  • 18. Re: Mage Guide: Best PvE Raiding Set   04/06/2008 07:54:08 PM PDT
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Bump
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  • 19. Re: Mage Guide: Best PvE Raiding Set   04/06/2008 09:12:04 PM PDT
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Q u o t e:
I believe swapping these items would be better

T6 helm + tyri's + chronicle (15 short of hit cap)

DMG 151 + 14 (extra socket + bonus over t6 gloves)
HIT 30
CRIT 52
HASTE 36
INT 84

Illidan helm + t6 gloves + heart of the pit (4 hit below the cap)

DMG 154
HIT 41
CRIT 66
HASTE 32
INT 78

Ok so you gain 12 spell damage in gems from the extra hit.
Int is ~ 1 spelldmg in favor of the OP's setup.

compare

OP setup
166 dmg
52 crit
36 haste

My setup
166 dmg
66 crit
32 haste


I thought this combo was better aswell. But when me and unbind talked it over, we found T6 helm/Hyjal OH/ Kil'J gloves slightly better. BUt it can honestly go both ways. PErsonally i think im going to take illidan helm / T6 gloves / Haste OH personally.

Thanks for that. :-)
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