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  • Skullcrusher
  • 0. Magisters terrace not going back   03/26/2008 06:03:29 AM PDT
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With 2 mages, myself (the tank), elemental shaman and healer we destroyed the dungeon =-).

Sadly after the excitement I checked out the loot for both heroic and normal. And there is only one trinket thats worth getting as a tank.

The 57 sta + effect trinket would be replacing my 51 sta darkmoon trinket at best.

I don't see how blizzard is going to tempt any tank into doing that instance regularly. And tanks are in short demand to begin with.

I am done with it I will get my faction rewards which are hell-a better through dailies.
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  • Skullcrusher
  • 1. Re: Magisters terrace not going back   03/26/2008 06:37:05 AM PDT
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bump hoping Blizzard can hotfix some sensible tank loot to the instance
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  • 2. Re: Magisters terrace not going back   03/26/2008 06:42:43 AM PDT
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Though I never managed to clear it, I do agree that there is a serious lack of incentive to go back. That trinket is cool and all, but not worth the grief and +50g in repairs due to wipes. Honestly, as far as tank pieces go, this patch was a huge let down. I'm not entirely sure about raid drops, as I'll never get to that point before Wrath is released, but there was only 1 or 2 tank drops introduced outside of the new 25 man raid. The cloak enchant is nice, but seriously....why should I bother clearing MagT? You'd think that the best way to deal with the tank shortage would be to encourage tanks with loot, not discourage them with time wasting, worthless 5-man's that everyone's going to forget about in 2 weeks...

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  • 3. Re: Magisters terrace not going back   03/26/2008 06:46:41 AM PDT
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why dont you post on your tank, i dont think a level1 could tank sunwell
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  • 4. Re: Magisters terrace not going back   03/26/2008 06:49:03 AM PDT
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why dont you post on your tank, i dont think a level1 could tank sunwell


no lvl 1 can tank sunwell but MT is a different story.

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  • 5. Re: Magisters terrace not going back   03/26/2008 07:12:05 AM PDT
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Though I never managed to clear it, I do agree that there is a serious lack of incentive to go back. That trinket is cool and all, but not worth the grief and +50g in repairs due to wipes. Honestly, as far as tank pieces go, this patch was a huge let down. I'm not entirely sure about raid drops, as I'll never get to that point before Wrath is released, but there was only 1 or 2 tank drops introduced outside of the new 25 man raid. The cloak enchant is nice, but seriously....why should I bother clearing MagT? You'd think that the best way to deal with the tank shortage would be to encourage tanks with loot, not discourage them with time wasting, worthless 5-man's that everyone's going to forget about in 2 weeks...


I dunno, I'm a Kara geared Priest with I think one piece out of SSC/TK which my group just started working on... the only pieces I was expecting to get were 2 trinkets from heroic... the healing and the tanking trinket (will be fun in pvp!).

Cleared the place last night, relatively quickly, and Kael actually dropped a blue belt that, when gemmed will be better than my Cincture of Will. I was a bit a surprised. >.>

I think if people out gear the place, they're not going to find much. But it seems like it fills a nice niche in the current 5 man instances... and its QUICK.

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  • 6. Re: Magisters terrace not going back   03/26/2008 07:20:45 AM PDT
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bump hoping Blizzard can hotfix some sensible tank loot to the instance



Just looked at the loot tables myself, there really isn't anything "tanky" except that trinket. A little depressing, much like ZA was when I (as a druid tank) took a look at the loot tables. I fondly remember a thread on the druid forums titled "An Exhaustive List Of Feral Tank Gear From ZA" or something like that, the post then listed the name of every boss.... with an blank space next to each name.

It would be great if they could add some more tank loot to Magister's Terrace.
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  • Skullcrusher
  • 7. Re: Magisters terrace not going back   03/26/2008 07:23:57 AM PDT
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why dont you post on your tank, i dont think a level1 could tank sunwell


I never bother posting on my main.

A. I don't need the off-topic comments about my guild progression, my choice of gear or my discussion about my talent spec.
B. If the post is handled negatively I don't need my guild being associated with my comments.

All that trolls need to know is that Sunwell 5 man is not worth it to a tank to run. If it remains this way less and less tanks will run this instance. Resulting in less and less groups running the instance.

If you want to get angry and negative about it all lets at least stay on-topic. I don't need some off tangent comment about the color scheme of my gear. Especially from some caster who is pissed about the truth of the matter and just wants to push off this post so no other tanks get light of the PROBLEM with this new 5 man dungeon.
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  • 8. Re: Magisters terrace not going back   03/26/2008 07:27:52 AM PDT
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I'm not impressed with the loot either. Nothing in there I can use. Nothing. I'll run it until i get exalted for my Alchemist's Stone upgrade, then never again.
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  • 9. Re: Magisters terrace not going back   03/26/2008 07:31:31 AM PDT
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Yeah after two clears last night that's probably my last visit to it for a long while. The 5-man at least was a big fail overall. Way too much of an annoying instance for little reward.
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  • 10. Re: Magisters terrace not going back   03/26/2008 07:43:56 AM PDT
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All that trolls need to know is that Sunwell 5 man is not worth it to a tank to run. If it remains this way less and less tanks will run this instance. Resulting in less and less groups running the instance.




And that is your choice. Believe it or not some people do the run because it is new and fun, not just for loot.

It's a 5-man, what kind of loot do you expect?

I will run it, I think it is fun, the only thing I want is the 20 slot bag trash drop.


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  • Skullcrusher
  • 11. Re: Magisters terrace not going back   03/26/2008 08:40:17 AM PDT
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And that is your choice. Believe it or not some people do the run because it is new and fun, not just for loot.

It's a 5-man, what kind of loot do you expect?

I will run it, I think it is fun, the only thing I want is the 20 slot bag trash drop.




I did not hear of a 20 bag slot drop.
And you may claim there is nothing there for you.

But I am tell you there is nothing there for ANY upcoming tank or an existing tank other than that trinket.

So regardless of how fun YOU feel the instance is, it doesn't warrant the fact that there is next to zero tank loot in the instance and you can expect less and less tanks interested in doing the instance.

Unless some better tank loot gets in there.

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  • Moon Guard
  • 12. Re: Magisters terrace not going back   03/26/2008 08:43:16 AM PDT
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Yea, I complained about this prior to the patch. The warrior tank items at least, are horrible. No armor, one trinket.. that's about it. I'll go for trinket and rep.. then what? And the rep items are bad too. The shield is almost a replica of the nightbane shield. If you have Kara gear, there is absolutely nothing other than one trinket for you in the instance as a warrior tank, normal or heroic.
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  • 13. Re: Magisters terrace not going back   03/26/2008 08:45:21 AM PDT
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I go cause its new.

And rep..........

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  • 14. Re: Magisters terrace not going back   03/26/2008 08:49:57 AM PDT
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I dunno, I'm a Kara geared Priest with I think one piece out of SSC/TK which my group just started working on... the only pieces I was expecting to get were 2 trinkets from heroic... the healing and the tanking trinket (will be fun in pvp!).

Cleared the place last night, relatively quickly, and Kael actually dropped a blue belt that, when gemmed will be better than my Cincture of Will. I was a bit a surprised. >.>

I think if people out gear the place, they're not going to find much. But it seems like it fills a nice niche in the current 5 man instances... and its QUICK.


There is no tanking gear in there besides the heroic trinket. The plate is all heal/dps stuff.

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  • 15. Re: Magisters terrace not going back   03/26/2008 08:50:43 AM PDT
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Sorry to hear there aren't a lot of items for you out of the dungeon, but there are no current plans to change the loot table for the bosses in it.
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  • Moon Guard
  • 16. Re: Magisters terrace not going back   03/26/2008 08:52:01 AM PDT
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Sorry to hear there aren't a lot of items for you out of the dungeon, but there are no current plans to change the loot table for the bosses in it.


That's fine.. I'm just a bit sad myself, my tank was underwhelmed by the lack of drops. =(

I will try for the little phoenix pet too though, although I bet the drop rate is somewhere around "massivelyfrustrating %" or so.

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  • 18. Re: Magisters terrace not going back   03/26/2008 08:54:40 AM PDT
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200-300 effective health is not going to entice me into tanking this for pugs.

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