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  • Arygos
  • 140. Re: ummmm why was megatf banned anyway?   03/10/2008 03:42:25 PM PDT
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I know I'm going to get flamed for this but...

I like megatf as well heck I even learned quite a bit from his guides, but he was being really nasty the few days before he got banned. Although I thought it was funny that he would get drunk and make drunken ramblings on the forums, I can definately see how some people would be offended. His behavior towards everyone who disagreed with him was generally vulgar and thats what did it.


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  • 141. Re: ummmm why was megatf banned anyway?   03/10/2008 03:45:14 PM PDT
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I know I'm going to get flamed for this but...

I like megatf as well heck I even learned quite a bit from his guides, but he was being really nasty the few days before he got banned. Although I thought it was funny that he would get drunk and make drunken ramblings on the forums, I can definately see how some people would be offended. His behavior towards everyone who disagreed with him was generally vulgar and thats what did it.

No one is really disputing this.

The problem is the loss of guides, discussion threads, etc and them leaving the "Huntards need to L2P" threads without hindrance.
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Drysc
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  • 142. Re: ummmm why was megatf banned anyway?   03/10/2008 03:50:08 PM PDT
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So, fire that Moderator since he just took away a lot of information that the paying customers are angry about that info being taken.


It's no ones fault besides those that break the Forum Code of Conduct for the loss of their posting privileges and posts.

It's unfortunate some of his posts contained useful information, but if his intent was to help and serve the community it would have been wise to obey the rules. Everyone slips up though, hopefully he comes back and continues to be a positive influence.

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  • Thunderhorn
  • 143. Re: ummmm why was megatf banned anyway?   03/10/2008 03:51:25 PM PDT
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No one is really disputing this.

The problem is the loss of guides, discussion threads, etc and them leaving the "Huntards need to L2P" threads without hindrance.


I see the problem differently. Megatf was obviously trying to get the Devs attention with this stunt, but they are still not listening. They are only addressing the ban issue and so are all the hunters in this forum. We are no longer screaming about change, we are all sitting here asking where Megatf went.
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  • 144. Re: ummmm why was megatf banned anyway?   03/10/2008 03:52:18 PM PDT
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FWIW, any thread that has had a blue post in it is archived (at least the first post and all the blue, as well as edits to the first post) on http://blue.cardplace.com/

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  • Auchindoun
  • 145. Re: ummmm why was megatf banned anyway?   03/10/2008 03:53:17 PM PDT
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I see the problem differently. Megatf was obviously trying to get the Devs attention with this stunt, but they are still not listening. They are only addressing the ban issue and so are all the hunters in this forum. We are no longer screaming about change, we are all sitting here asking where Megatf went.


But you don't NEED TO BE BUFFED.

This is one of the most frustrating things for everyone that actually understands the current balance of the game. Seeing the constant hunter QQ even after buffs make you one of the most powerful arena classes.

He SHOULD be banned just for making calls for more buffs.
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  • Thunderhorn
  • 146. Re: ummmm why was megatf banned anyway?   03/10/2008 03:56:09 PM PDT
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But you don't NEED TO BE BUFFED.

This is one of the most frustrating things for everyone that actually understands the current balance of the game. Seeing the constant hunter QQ even after buffs make you one of the most powerful arena classes.

He SHOULD be banned just for making calls for more buffs.


I said changes - not buffs
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  • Staghelm
  • 147. Re: ummmm why was megatf banned anyway?   03/10/2008 03:57:29 PM PDT
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FREE MEGATF!
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  • 148. Re: ummmm why was megatf banned anyway?   03/10/2008 03:57:50 PM PDT
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It's no ones fault besides those that break the Forum Code of Conduct for the loss of their posting privileges and posts.

It's unfortunate some of his posts contained useful information, but if his intent was to help and serve the community it would have been wise to obey the rules. Everyone slips up though, hopefully he comes back and continues to be a positive influence.

Then why were the reposts of the guides subsequently deleted?
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  • 149. Re: ummmm why was megatf banned anyway?   03/10/2008 03:58:46 PM PDT
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Drysc, we really appreciate you taking the time to come and address us during this. Many of us figured that most of the Blue Crew was out for weekend holiday, anyhow (and thus any type of protest done on that day was, well, moot).

What concerns me is last night, during a flurry of late-night deletions by whatever weekend moderator was on duty, quite a few threads that had absolutely nothing to do with MegaTF, or the Arena Stats (spam), that could be seen as quite useful pertaining to current Hunter mechanics, issues (again, constructive, not "QQ's), and the like....they were getting deleted right along with these other threads.

In most cases, none of those threads were in direct violation of anything, especially in the original posts by the topic creators.

So, what explains those?

I'm a bit upset that there isn't a followup procedure in place in the customer service/moderator department that requires an email to the creators of such topics explaining why something has been deleted.

[ Post edited by Sinestra ]


Please, don't delete a truly constructive thread based on the hunter class mechanics we create without a legitimate reason. Thanks.
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  • 150. Re: ummmm why was megatf banned anyway?   03/10/2008 04:01:47 PM PDT
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You do realize he did that to get your attention and to get the problem fixed - right?



You do realize this is the definition of trolling, rabble rousing, etc?

Rules are rules, based upon my own experience you have to go pretty far to get a suspension.

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  • Spirestone
  • 151. Re: ummmm why was megatf banned anyway?   03/10/2008 04:01:55 PM PDT
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It's no ones fault besides those that break the Forum Code of Conduct for the loss of their posting privileges and posts.

It's unfortunate some of his posts contained useful information, but if his intent was to help and serve the community it would have been wise to obey the rules. Everyone slips up though, hopefully he comes back and continues to be a positive influence.


If you wanted an influx of mass, civil disobedience, than you got it. I keep seeing the same percentages displayed many times over in multiple signatures across the board to remind the hunter player base of key information that Megatf posted, that has been banned now.

Instead of squelching the man, the moderator has given rise to angry player base willing to challenge the authority at hand. The moderator in question should have their actions questioned, especially in light of how disruptive their actions have been to the hunter community. They made themselves a moving target and shouldn't be shocked that people are taking potshots at them.

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'I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not going to take this anymore!!'"
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  • 152. Re: ummmm why was megatf banned anyway?   03/10/2008 04:10:55 PM PDT
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It's no ones fault besides those that break the Forum Code of Conduct for the loss of their posting privileges and posts.

It's unfortunate some of his posts contained useful information, but if his intent was to help and serve the community it would have been wise to obey the rules. Everyone slips up though, hopefully he comes back and continues to be a positive influence.


its also unfortunate to not follow freedom of speech. who were the posts of the banned player actually hurting? no i mean actually hurting. was someone dying because of them?

i understand not liking or allowing posts "attacking blizzard" but at least leave the posts that informed your paying customers or I am sure you will end up with many less of said paying custimers.
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  • Archimonde
  • 153. Re: ummmm why was megatf banned anyway?   03/10/2008 04:12:31 PM PDT
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Thats what you get for asking buffs !

Stay nerfed and dont cry loud.
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  • Azgalor
  • 154. Re: ummmm why was megatf banned anyway?   03/10/2008 04:17:54 PM PDT
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It's no ones fault besides those that break the Forum Code of Conduct for the loss of their posting privileges and posts.

It's unfortunate some of his posts contained useful information, but if his intent was to help and serve the community it would have been wise to obey the rules. Everyone slips up though, hopefully he comes back and continues to be a positive influence.


my question is why was the 'removal of vipersting' post removed, I just don't understand how discussion about some way to improve the class by taking away the one ability that forces us to only drain and use a scorpid in arenas is... against anything. I could understand some of the megatf stuff, seems a bit odd, but I might see how someone could see it as bad. the vipersting removal, in regards to getting hunters back into a dps role in arenas by levidian... I thought the original post and many other posts afterwards were fairly constructive
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  • 155. Re: ummmm why was megatf banned anyway?   03/10/2008 04:21:54 PM PDT
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His banning doesnt explain why users who repost his guide have also had their points deleted, drysc.

Nor does it explain the selective deletion where serious threads about hunter concerns are getting deleted from all other forums, while degenerative troll posts about hunters are allowed to grow to no end.

It's extremely selective moderation and seemingly prejudice.


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  • 156. Re: ummmm why was megatf banned anyway?   03/10/2008 04:22:44 PM PDT
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It's no ones fault besides those that break the Forum Code of Conduct for the loss of their posting privileges and posts.

It's unfortunate some of his posts contained useful information, but if his intent was to help and serve the community it would have been wise to obey the rules. Everyone slips up though, hopefully he comes back and continues to be a positive influence.


So what about the mass trolling of our forums? Not a damn thing being done that I can see.

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  • Dragonmaw
  • 159. Re: ummmm why was megatf banned anyway?   03/10/2008 04:26:35 PM PDT
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I realize he was a respected member of the hunter forums, and represented a very successful player for the hunter class, so I'll chime in here to clarify as much as I can.

We can't divulge any information regarding disciplinary action unless it's to the person that has had action taken against them, so specific reasoning isn't something I can give. I can however tell you that it's a temporary suspension from the forums, which has no bearing on his access to the game. Forum and in-game warnings and suspensions are not tied in any way, they're completely separated in that regard.

It's normal procedure when dealing with specific types of posts to moderate them in such a way as to remove all posts made from that account. This was one of those cases, and unfortunately it may have resulted in some informational or otherwise useful posts being removed. We apologize if that's the case and hope those threads have been archived in some way.

I'll close by saying that the moderation action was taken for a specific reason, there was no amount of hard feelings or animosity involved with any statements that he may have made. If you look around you can see that we're not just suspending people for saying something generically negative about a class, skill, etc. I'll be bluntly honest and say that I doubt the moderators have any idea who he is, but I can at least verify that the reasoning for the suspension taking place was appropriate and standard for the type of offense in-question.


His guild is full of jerks and corpse camping nuts.
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