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  • 0. Auctioneer causing bans-what ui mods safe?   11/15/2006 12:24:48 AM PST
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well it is slowly becoming a known fact that most of the random banned accounts all share one similarity - they have auctioneer. Auctioneer can be debated as to be offering a unfair advantage in the game by violation of the TOS...and it can be rightfully defended by blizz as well.

Thank God i did not install it so i did not get caught, but it draws my attention to other things now. Since blizz decided to throw out a unnanounced ban over such a widely used ui mod...then how can i feel safe using my wide selection of ui mods?

i got anything from allinoneinventory to ctraid to ktm. these all can be classified as offering the same advantage as auctioneer....so who is safe really? am i really going to be pressed into using blizzard's POS ui the way it is? if they wish to be this anal why dont they at least improve the ui so it is acceptable w/o ui mods?

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  • 1. Re: Auctioneer causing bans-what ui mods safe   11/15/2006 12:26:51 AM PST
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<--- Uses Auctioneer, as well as about 50 other UI Mods
<--- Wasn't banned

"We don't currently have any plans to allow PvE to PvP transfers in the future. We can't give an absolute such as "never again", but it is something we're strongly opposed to doing currently."
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  • 2. Re: Auctioneer causing bans-what ui mods safe   11/15/2006 12:29:10 AM PST
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I keep people talking about Linux got them banned. What is Linux ? Why would it be illegal?
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  • 3. Re: Auctioneer causing bans-what ui mods safe   11/15/2006 12:29:55 AM PST
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<--- Uses Auctioneer, as well as about 50 other UI Mods
<--- Wasn't banned


your playing with fire my freind. i know at least 25 other posters who were banned and had nothing but auctioneer installed. take my advice or risk your account.... up to you
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  • 4. Re: Auctioneer causing bans-what ui mods safe   11/15/2006 12:30:48 AM PST
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The object in war is not to die for your country...it's to make the other bastard die for his.
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  • 5. Re: Auctioneer causing bans-what ui mods safe   11/15/2006 12:31:40 AM PST
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well it is slowly becoming a known fact that most of the random banned accounts all share one similarity - they have auctioneer. Auctioneer can be debated as to be offering a unfair advantage in the game by violation of the TOS...and it can be rightfully defended by blizz as well.

Thank God i did not install it so i did not get caught, but it draws my attention to other things now. Since blizz decided to throw out a unnanounced ban over such a widely used ui mod...then how can i feel safe using my wide selection of ui mods?

i got anything from allinoneinventory to ctraid to ktm. these all can be classified as offering the same advantage as auctioneer....so who is safe really? am i really going to be pressed into using blizzard's POS ui the way it is? if they wish to be this anal why dont they at least improve the ui so it is acceptable w/o ui mods?

/sigh


Half the people in the game would have been banned if Auctioneer had anything to do with it. Blizzard isn't going to ban you for using any UI mods. Even Decursive, which Blizzard doesn't like, is not going to get you banned. Any UI they have a problem with will just be made so that it can no longer function (such as Decursive in the expansion).
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  • 6. Re: Auctioneer causing bans-what ui mods safe   11/15/2006 12:32:14 AM PST
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your playing with fire my freind. i know at least 25 other posters who were banned and had nothing but auctioneer installed. take my advice or risk your account.... up to you


I'm going to risk my account.

I can't begin to fathom why Blizzard would start banning people for using one of the most popular addons for this game. Not without any sort of notice.
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  • 7. Re: Auctioneer causing bans-what ui mods safe   11/15/2006 12:32:44 AM PST
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your playing with fire my freind. i know at least 25 other posters who were banned and had nothing but auctioneer installed. take my advice or risk your account.... up to you


Please stop posting you have no idea what you're talking about.
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  • 8. Re: Auctioneer causing bans-what ui mods safe   11/15/2006 12:32:53 AM PST
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http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=47298805&sid=1


hmm interesting but that still dosnt tell me why the others got banned, including a friend of mine who were using nothing beyond auctioneer. that thread dosn't take that fact away from me

either it was a big screw up, or auctioneer is indeed causing it.

anyway up to you to decide naturally how you play your game. i'm just offering some advice from what i have seen.
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  • 9. Re: Auctioneer causing bans-what ui mods safe   11/15/2006 12:34:54 AM PST
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Please stop posting you have no idea what you're talking about.


psh w/e dude. just offering some advice i really dont care what happens to you so ignore it
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  • 10. Re: Auctioneer causing bans-what ui mods safe   11/15/2006 12:37:13 AM PST
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hmm interesting but that still dosnt tell me why the others got banned, including a friend of mine who were using nothing beyond auctioneer. that thread dosn't take that fact away from me

either it was a big screw up, or auctioneer is indeed causing it.

anyway up to you to decide naturally how you play your game. i'm just offering some advice from what i have seen.


It would appear that Blizzard has updated their Warden program or implemented another program to catch botters. The botter forums are alive with much wailing and gnashing of teeth.
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  • 11. Re: Auctioneer causing bans-what ui mods safe   11/15/2006 12:43:17 AM PST
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We have not banned any one for their use of a legitimate UI mod, a piece of code that works within our allowable definitions to change the interface of the game (such as the one you mentioned). The third party programs being detected are specific hacks that we are able to acutely detect and verify before closing an account.

We do not take account closures lightly, and we take enormous steps to ensure that those we remove from the game are specifically and properly confirmed as being in violation of our rules and agreements before doing so.

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  • 12. Re: Auctioneer causing bans-what ui mods safe   11/15/2006 12:45:16 AM PST
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but bottting is not hacking ....
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  • Kalecgos
  • 13. Re: Auctioneer causing bans-what ui mods safe   11/15/2006 12:45:41 AM PST
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We have not banned any one for their use of a legitimate UI mod, a piece of code that works within our allowable definitions to change the interface of the game (such as the one you mentioned). The third party programs being detected are specific hacks that we are able to acutely detect and verify before closing an account.

We do not take account closures lightly, and we take enormous steps to ensure that those we remove from the game are specifically and properly confirmed as being in violation of our rules and agreements before doing so.



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Thanks Drysc, makes me feel more at ease :)

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  • 14. Re: Auctioneer causing bans-what ui mods safe   11/15/2006 12:45:55 AM PST
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We have not banned any one for their use of a UI mod, a piece of code that works within our allowable definitions to change the interface of the game. The third party programs being detected are specific hacks that we are able to acutely detect and verify before closing an account.

We do not take account closures lightly, and we take enormous steps to ensure that those we remove from the game are specifically and properly confirmed as being in violation of our rules and agreements before doing so.


Botters just got owned i think.

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  • 16. Re: Auctioneer causing bans-what ui mods safe   11/15/2006 12:47:03 AM PST
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I was running my level 16 rogue through dm when it got disconnected and banned. In fact it got disconnected about 3 times in the hour prior to the ban. And then finally, I can't login anymore.

How is that a hack?
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  • Uldaman
  • 17. Re: Auctioneer causing bans-what ui mods safe   11/15/2006 12:50:18 AM PST
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Drysc,

Is it possible that people who are using Linux as an operationg system are getting banned? I know blizzard wont just go and ban for no reason. I was just wondering cause sooo many that use this seem to be the ones going away.
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  • Haomarush
  • 18. Re: Auctioneer causing bans-what ui mods safe   11/15/2006 12:50:31 AM PST
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Q u o t e:
We have not banned any one for their use of a legitimate UI mod, a piece of code that works within our allowable definitions to change the interface of the game (such as the one you mentioned). The third party programs being detected are specific hacks that we are able to acutely detect and verify before closing an account.


Can you specifically tell us what they are since I don't specifically know why my account was banned?


Q u o t e:
We do not take account closures lightly, and we take enormous steps to ensure that those we remove from the game are specifically and properly confirmed as being in violation of our rules and agreements before doing so.


Obviously not since all of my accounts run with the same mods on the same machine and only one of them was banned. I did nothing wrong on any of them but one was banned. Looks like egregious incompetence to me.
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  • 19. Re: Auctioneer causing bans-what ui mods safe   11/15/2006 12:51:16 AM PST
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I was running my level 16 rogue through dm when it got disconnected and banned. In fact it got disconnected about 3 times in the hour prior to the ban. And then finally, I can't login anymore.

How is that a hack?


We usually build up a large list before actually banning the accounts, thus the large influx of posts currently. Use of a third party program could date back quite a while before the actual ban goes through.


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