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  • Frostmane
  • 0. pvp to pve good idea? could use blue response   11/09/2006 08:52:29 PM PST
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IT happens, my guild is falling apart and im thinking of going from a pvp server to a pve. I AM A VERY ACTIVE PVPER so i would like some answers from people who have done this

Got some questions i would like answered and i gues whoever else wants to say something

-I know some PVE servers had trouble getting battlegrounds started. This has not been a problem since cross realm bg's have been added. Will cross realm BG's be around forever? im hoping so

-Outlands will be pvp enabled on ALL servers right? Everyone is flagged right when they enter, and they can't turn it off no matter how much they want to right?

-It says on the transfers "cannot transfer from pve to pvp 'YET'" is there any idea as to when this opens? so i f i do regret my decision, i wont regret it forever?

need some answers and some insight to whoever has done this
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  • 1. Re: pvp to pve good idea? could use blue resp   11/09/2006 08:55:18 PM PST
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yes, and so is pve>pvp
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  • Steamwheedle Cartel
  • 2. Re: pvp to pve good idea? could use blue resp   11/09/2006 08:59:39 PM PST
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I've heard many say it's a bad idea since they grow bored and you also have to remember, you will NEVER ever be able to transfer your characters back.

Oh and no, Outlands does not at all flag you on PvE servers.

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  • Thorium Brotherhood
  • 3. Re: pvp to pve good idea? could use blue resp   11/09/2006 09:06:02 PM PST
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Outlands does not flag you instantly. It is not auto-PvP.

Err...what he said :D

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  • 4. Re: pvp to pve good idea? could use blue resp   11/09/2006 09:15:30 PM PST
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-I know some PVE servers had trouble getting battlegrounds started. This has not been a problem since cross realm bg's have been added. Will cross realm BG's be around forever? im hoping so


They're here to stay as far as we can foresee.


Q u o t e:
-Outlands will be pvp enabled on ALL servers right? Everyone is flagged right when they enter, and they can't turn it off no matter how much they want to right?


No, Outlands is the same as Azeroth concerning PvP flagging. The outdoor PvP objectives may increase some amount of PvP enabled players on a PvE realm, but it's not a zone-wide or continent-wide PvP free for all.


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-It says on the transfers "cannot transfer from pve to pvp 'YET'" is there any idea as to when this opens? so i f i do regret my decision, i wont regret it forever?


That wording may need to be revised a bit, I'll go take a look at it. We don't currently have any plans to allow PvE to PvP transfers in the future. We can't give an absolute such as "never again", but it is something we're strongly opposed to doing currently.


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  • 5. Re: pvp to pve good idea? could use blue resp   11/09/2006 09:17:35 PM PST
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[quote]

They're here to stay as far as we can foresee.



No, Outlands is the same as Azeroth concerning PvP flagging. The outdoor PvP objectives may increase some amount of PvP enabled players on a PvE realm, but due to the amount of carebears on any given pve server and unflagged to flagged ganking, PvP will be just as boring on PvE servers and you'll still be limited to BG'ing against teams and wasting your time.



That wording may need to be revised a bit, I'll go take a look at it. We don't currently have any plans to allow PvE to PvP transfers in the future. We can't give an absolute such as "never again", but it is something we're strongly opposed to doing currently due to the QQ'ers all over the forums when we did allow one pve-pvp server transfer. Sheesh, the whiners on this forum amaze me, and blizz pretty much decides policy based on the majority of players who respond with QQ'ing.[/quote]


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  • Frostmane
  • 6. Re: pvp to pve good idea? could use blue resp   11/09/2006 09:18:08 PM PST
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rough, but thanks for the quick blue response

Oh and the main reason i want to transfer is i wanna join some good friends in a stable guild, but maybe ill rethink that now =P

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  • Spirestone
  • 7. Re: pvp to pve good idea? could use blue resp   11/09/2006 09:22:49 PM PST
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Q u o t e:



fixed


Will you shut up about it now Ashtar?
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  • 8. Re: pvp to pve good idea? could use blue resp   11/09/2006 09:23:59 PM PST
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Will you shut up about it now Ashtar?



See? Bumping old threads works!

I still think they're going to allow it at expansion release. There's no real reason not to, atleast for a limited time, due to the "sweeping changes" already being made to the game.
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  • 10. Re: pvp to pve good idea? could use blue resp   11/09/2006 09:25:44 PM PST
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He wanted the glory of being the first person to post after a Blizzard poster. If he wants to impress me, I'll have to not see the [Post edited by Ashtar] sign.



Last night didn't cut it for you then? Arrrg! what do i have to do to impress you men!
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  • Azshara
  • 11. Re: pvp to pve good idea? could use blue resp   11/09/2006 09:29:46 PM PST
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Q u o t e:

-It says on the transfers "cannot transfer from pve to pvp 'YET'" is there any idea as to when this opens? so i f i do regret my decision, i wont regret it forever?


This relates to the fact that they need another dev with their guild stuck on a PVE server with desire to play PVP. Remember Hyjal > Black Dragonflight??

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  • 12. Re: pvp to pve good idea? could use blue resp   11/09/2006 09:31:52 PM PST
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This relates to the fact that they need another dev with their guild stuck on a PVE server with desire to play PVP. Remember Hyjal > Black Dragonflight??

LOLAMIRITE BLUE??


That's what I keep referring to. Hyjal was the server they originally allowed to transfer to a pvp server, but after the forums blew up, they called it off. Wasn't this the one?
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  • Kael'thas
  • 13. Re: pvp to pve good idea? could use blue resp   11/09/2006 09:32:39 PM PST
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See? Bumping old threads works!

I still think they're going to allow it at expansion release. There's no real reason not to, atleast for a limited time, due to the "sweeping changes" already being made to the game.


Prepare to be disappointed then when they don't allow it upon the BC's release. No real reason not to? Sure there are and they've already stated why in the past.
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  • 14. Re: pvp to pve good idea? could use blue resp   11/09/2006 09:36:02 PM PST
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Prepare to be disappointed then when they don't allow it upon the BC's release. No real reason not to? Sure there are and they've already stated why in the past.


Thats fine. Warhammer comes out soon enough.
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  • Dragonblight
  • 15. Re: pvp to pve good idea? could use blue resp   11/09/2006 09:38:13 PM PST
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That wording may need to be revised a bit, I'll go take a look at it. We don't currently have any plans to allow PvE to PvP transfers in the future. We can't give an absolute such as "never again", but it is something we're strongly opposed to doing currently.



There was a PvE to PvP transfer before, with a brand new PvP server (so as not to be "unfair").

This seems like the best solution to allow again.

Don't you think?

Or was that a one-time only deal?
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  • 16. Re: pvp to pve good idea? could use blue resp   11/09/2006 09:45:36 PM PST
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Q u o t e:
That wording may need to be revised a bit, I'll go take a look at it. We don't currently have any plans to allow PvE to PvP transfers in the future. We can't give an absolute such as "never again", but it is something we're strongly opposed to doing currently.



This kind of like George W saying that "we won't invade you.......but all options are on the table"

meaning... we can't publically announce what we're about to do, but we're about to do it.

AMIRITE??
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  • Akama
  • 17. Re: pvp to pve good idea? could use blue resp   11/09/2006 10:05:16 PM PST
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I moved my mains to a PVE server when I hit 60 and realized how boring it is ganking lowbies.

Then I realized how sucky it was to have to LFG for runecloth since there were about 20,000 undead rogues hanging around.

The last straw for me was a 2 hour corpse run just to get inside of BRD...lame imo.

So now I am stress free, I can take a bio break and leave myself in the middle of silithius, I can grind rep that I missed from grinding instead of questing and I couldnt be happier.

The bgs are fine too. AV is about 20 minutes longer to queue, WSG, AB is about a 5 minute wait (Alliance side - ally populated server)

So should you do it? Hell yeah. Bored of PVE? Just flag and run around Tenaris..you will get ganked and start a PVP war. I guarantee it. Heck attack chillwind camp or SS, you'll see how many show up to defend.

I encounter more PVP on my PVE server (world pvp) than on my other one. At least now I can rest up to full HP/Mana....lol
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  • 18. Re: pvp to pve good idea? could use blue resp   11/09/2006 10:16:49 PM PST
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I wouldn't recommend going from your PVP server to a Normal server. Especially if you think, "Hey other 60's would be flagged right?" haha no. 8 ( I followed some friends to a Normal server about 2 months ago and while there are plenty of raids on Horde towns and cities, there is zero satisfaction when it comes to constant world PVP.

So if you value pwning that level 50 that is just starting to quest in WPL on your 60, then stay where you are. On the upside, can you imagine going to the Outlands with decent gear and getting 1 shotted by a T3 mage? yeah, bad times.
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  • Kalecgos
  • 19. Re: pvp to pve good idea? could use blue resp   11/09/2006 10:31:18 PM PST
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See? Bumping old threads works!

I still think they're going to allow it at expansion release. There's no real reason not to, atleast for a limited time, due to the "sweeping changes" already being made to the game.


Many reasons not to.

But I hope they do so that I can level in peace on a carebear server, and then transfer to a real server and gank lowbies who are trying to level.
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