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  • Ysera
  • 20. Re: 2.4 - Full patch notes - ETA?   02/05/2008 01:28:56 PM PST
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When the patch notes do?


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  • 21. Re: 2.4 - Full patch notes - ETA?   02/05/2008 01:29:32 PM PST
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When the patch notes do?


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Nethaera
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  • 22. Re: 2.4 - Full patch notes - ETA?   02/05/2008 01:29:34 PM PST
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If I'm not mistaken haven't the notes traditionally come out quite a bit before the PTR goes up?


No. Generally we try to put them up in their entirety at the same time. This helps signal that the test realm is available and gives everyone information on what they should be watching for and testing within the test realm.

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  • Ravenholdt
  • 23. Re: 2.4 - Full patch notes - ETA?   02/05/2008 01:29:38 PM PST
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When the patch notes do?


How did I know that was coming? How about... when do PTRs typically go up?

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  • Shu'halo
  • 24. Re: 2.4 - Full patch notes - ETA?   02/05/2008 01:29:49 PM PST
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When the patch notes do?


Could you please just say "Not today" if it's off the table for today?

I realize I can't read silence to mean "Today" or even "It's on the table for today" but I would appreciate if you know that it's not coming today if you could share that information.
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  • Khadgar
  • 25. Re: 2.4 - Full patch notes - ETA?   02/05/2008 01:30:14 PM PST
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When the patch notes do?


Rofl, Only because this response was too easy to predict.
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  • Smolderthorn
  • 26. Re: 2.4 - Full patch notes - ETA?   02/05/2008 01:30:58 PM PST
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Hey Neth,

Its cool that we don't get an ETA, but any other valuable info you can share with us here?

TIA

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  • Anvilmar
  • 27. Re: 2.4 - Full patch notes - ETA?   02/05/2008 01:31:14 PM PST
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No. Generally we try to put them up in their entirety at the same time. This helps signal that the test realm is available and gives everyone information on what they should be watching for and testing within the test realm.


Alot of people know that however what most people outside of Blizz don't know is the ETA on the 2.4 Patch notes and the PTR, Can you please give us any info on that?

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  • 28. Re: 2.4 - Full patch notes - ETA?   02/05/2008 01:31:21 PM PST
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I really don't get the hold up. Typically the new PTR comes up much closer to the end of the old one than this…

Looking at changes being brought with 2.4, and knowing that that's not the entirety of what's going in to 2.4, I'm left wondering why everyone thinks it's taking too long.
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  • Hellscream
  • 29. Re: 2.4 - Full patch notes - ETA?   02/05/2008 01:31:51 PM PST
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Given how what they have shared has gone over I'm thinking they'll wait before saying anything else.

Though I am confused about what's taking them so long. They've said the class changes aren't really anything (and folks are unhappy about that). There are a handful of PvP changes they've announced ..maybe polishing up that Sunwell thing is whats taking the time?

Honestly since they said the class changes are going to be pretty "eh" I'm not really caring when or if they get it out. The AV and DR change might be good - if the AV change causes alliance to quit the qq and queue.

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  • 30. Re: 2.4 - Full patch notes - ETA?   02/05/2008 01:33:15 PM PST
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Looking at changes being brought with 2.4, and knowing that that's not the entirety of what's going in to 2.4, I'm left wondering why everyone thinks it's taking too long.


No doubt there's a lot in the patch. But I'd expect it to be on the PTR for a while then. Many times in the past they have made major changes in new PTR builds after the PTR goes up. What's the hold up this time? Why not just throw it out there and start getting test results?

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  • Malfurion
  • 31. Re: 2.4 - Full patch notes - ETA?   02/05/2008 01:34:38 PM PST
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Really, what's the big deal? Why not just post the freakin notes already.

Blizzard is the oddest company ever.
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  • 32. Re: 2.4 - Full patch notes - ETA?   02/05/2008 01:34:50 PM PST
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No doubt there's a lot in the patch. But I'd expect it to be on the PTR for a while then. Many times in the past they have made major changes in new PTR builds after the PTR goes up. What's the hold up this time? Why not just throw it out there and start getting test results?


They release stuff to the PTR when it's in the final pre-release state. That is, they've already done internal bug and balance testing. Basically they could go ahead and release the patch, but they want the community to test it for additional feedback.

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  • Eldre'Thalas
  • 34. Re: 2.4 - Full patch notes - ETA?   02/05/2008 01:36:00 PM PST
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Really, what's the big deal? Why not just post the freakin notes already.

Blizzard is the oddest company ever.


Because people will QQ and **!%@ at the CM's for inaccurate information if anything needs to be changed before they are ready to put the patch on the PTR. We've made them this way,
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  • 35. Re: 2.4 - Full patch notes - ETA?   02/05/2008 01:36:30 PM PST
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No doubt there's a lot in the patch. But I'd expect it to be on the PTR for a while then. Many times in the past they have made major changes in new PTR builds after the PTR goes up. What's the hold up this time? Why not just throw it out there and start getting test results?

That depends on exactly how changes can be made to what has been done. Certain things can be changed easily, other things when changed effect other things and change them inadvertantly. We have seen evidence of this on past test realms.

Blizzard being more cautious than before isn't a bad thing, folks.
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  • Smolderthorn
  • 36. Re: 2.4 - Full patch notes - ETA?   02/05/2008 01:37:04 PM PST
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Really, what's the big deal? Why not just post the freakin notes already.

Blizzard is the oddest company ever.


Its quite simple I think, anticipation makes the value go higher. With so many people eagerly looking forward to the notes, the PTR, Blizzard is milking that further perhaps..

That's just MHO

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  • 37. Re: 2.4 - Full patch notes - ETA?   02/05/2008 01:37:34 PM PST
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Really, what's the big deal? Why not just post the freakin notes already.

Blizzard is the oddest company ever.

If it's not a big deal then why SHOULD they post the patch notes?
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Nethaera
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  • 38. Re: 2.4 - Full patch notes - ETA?   02/05/2008 01:37:55 PM PST
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I can't give an eta because it's all dependent on where internal testing and QA feel the patch is. There is plenty of content in the patch and we'd like to make sure we're making a patch that is as stable as possible for accurate testing.

I can't ballpark it either just in case we don't make the ballpark. While there are many people that don't mind when we miss a mark, there are others that will try to hold us to it. We would rather err on the side of caution and put it up when it's ready and then let everyone know it's available right then and there.

It is well on it's way, however, and I'm looking forward to experiencing the Sunwell Isle.

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