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  • Kil'jaeden
  • 0. Transmute: Void Crystal into Large Prismatic    01/30/2008 04:19:41 PM PST
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    Transmute: Void crystal into Large Prismatic Shard
    Reagent: 1x Void Crystal
    Produces: 2x Large Prismatic Shards
    [24 hours Cooldown]


Result:
- Cheaper Large Prismatic Shards
- More expensive Void Crystals
- Void Crystals always cost more than Large Prismatic Shards (as designed)
- 24 hour cooldown means the market won't get too flooded
- Enchanters / Alchemist gain a new "Value Add" bonus

I see no downsides. Nobody wins with expensive Large Prismatic Shards. Not even enchanters.
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  • 2. Re: Transmute: Void Crystal into Large Prisma   01/30/2008 04:41:55 PM PST
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That makes no sense. Just 'cause something is in high demand doesn't make it right to change a "more" valuable item into a "lesser" valuable item.

There are ways to "produce" LPS, many which can be solo'd.
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  • Malygos
  • 4. Re: Transmute: Void Crystal into Large Prisma   01/30/2008 05:56:20 PM PST
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Nope.




not for a lvl 8...ur right
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  • 5. Re: Transmute: Void Crystal into Large Prisma   01/30/2008 06:10:29 PM PST
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Yes plex.


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  • Sisters of Elune
  • 6. Re: Transmute: Void Crystal into Large Prisma   01/30/2008 11:14:14 PM PST
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Nope.




Yep.

I disenchant soloable tailoring blues all the time.

I wouldn't mind seeing shards be less expensive too, though. Yeah, it would diminish the value of creating them from tailored items, but for many people the prospect of 120-150 gold worth of shards for a single enchant is daunting, especially if they have to tack 100 gold worth of primals on top of that.
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  • Proudmoore
  • 7. Re: Transmute: Void Crystal into Large Prisma   01/30/2008 11:36:42 PM PST
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Voids are 5g on my server, LPS's are 26-30g /cry

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  • 8. Re: Transmute: Void Crystal into Large Prisma   01/31/2008 01:47:35 AM PST
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Voids are 5g on my server, LPS's are 26-30g /cry


Even if it was 1 for 1, I would do this daily, void crystals have been selling for dirt cheap lately and large prismatics are very expensive.

I noticed this originally around when s3 came out, in the first few hours the ah had 0 greater planars, 0 large prismatics, and if they were they sold fast and expensive. Greater planars and arcane dust are back to normal now but large pris have been more expensive since.

I'm guessing its because more desirable/mainstream enchants use large prismatics, the only ones I can think of that require void crystals are the Kara/ZA weapon enchants and surefooted.
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  • 9. Re: Transmute: Void Crystal into Large Prisma   01/31/2008 07:35:44 AM PST
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i dont think thats necessary, Bliz just needs to make more effin recipees, ever notice there are no recipes beyond kara\ZA ... ever notice there are only a handful of recipes in game that require Void Crystals?

if there were upgrade to all the 5 man Recipes, in raid dungeons, voids Value would skyrocket and LPS would plummit... which is how it should be IMO.

[ Post edited by Zumwalah ]

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  • Eldre'Thalas
  • 10. Re: Transmute: Void Crystal into Large Prisma   01/31/2008 07:56:14 AM PST
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    Transmute: Void crystal into Large Prismatic Shard
    Reagent: 1x Void Crystal
    Produces: 2x Large Prismatic Shards
    [24 hours Cooldown]


Result:
- Cheaper Large Prismatic Shards
- More expensive Void Crystals
- Void Crystals always cost more than Large Prismatic Shards (as designed)
- 24 hour cooldown means the market won't get too flooded
- Enchanters / Alchemist gain a new "Value Add" bonus

I see no downsides. Nobody wins with expensive Large Prismatic Shards. Not even enchanters.


fantastic! :)

or another suggestion, make more enchants use Void Crystals more. :P
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  • 11. Re: Transmute: Void Crystal into Large Prisma   01/31/2008 08:07:08 AM PST
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Q u o t e:
    Transmute: Void crystal into Large Prismatic Shard
    Reagent: 1x Void Crystal
    Produces: 2x Large Prismatic Shards
    [24 hours Cooldown]


Result:
- Cheaper Large Prismatic Shards
- More expensive Void Crystals
- Void Crystals always cost more than Large Prismatic Shards (as designed)
- 24 hour cooldown means the market won't get too flooded
- Enchanters / Alchemist gain a new "Value Add" bonus

I see no downsides. Nobody wins with expensive Large Prismatic Shards. Not even enchanters.


Horable idea as this would kill the prices for each item. You cant just bring something like this in to the game where the economy is at risk. Deal with the fact that you cant just buy your 8 LPS for 40g like you want.

PS: Oh and people who don't post on their mains fail in life out side of WoW as well.
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  • 12. Re: Transmute: Void Crystal into Large Prisma   01/31/2008 10:58:06 AM PST
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Yea they are crazy prices for lps everywhere. Its called arena. Everyone getting their new welfare epics every season will create a great rise in the price of enchanting mats and gems.

What I usually do everyday when I have a chance I check ah for some moron who has put up a lvl 66-70 boe blue for like 4g. Buy that and profit. I also farm instances for chests. There is always some crappy ass rare elite in some zone in outlands. Kill those for their crappy boe loot and de it. There are alot of ways you can get lps very cheap if u just spend a little time on the ah or have a crafting prof and can make something with low mats costs over and over.

ICE LOCK ON OK!
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  • Kael'thas
  • 13. Re: Transmute: Void Crystal into Large Prisma   01/31/2008 11:50:32 AM PST
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i dont think thats necessary, Bliz just needs to make more effin recipees, ever notice there are no recipes beyond kara\ZA ... ever notice there are only a handful of recipes in game that require Void Crystals?

if there were upgrade to all the 5 man Recipes, in raid dungeons, voids Value would skyrocket and LPS would plummit... which is how it should be IMO.


Ultimately this is the real issue. Blizzard has no control (and officially no interest) in the player-determined cost of tradeable items. As far as they are concerned, you crack a lvl 120 epic item, you should get a lvl 120 epic mat. You crack a lvl 100 blue item, you get a lvl 100 blue mat. Conversely, if you are enchanting lvl 100 blue items, you should be getting a "lvl 100 blue" enchant, ie one that uses the lvl 100 blue mat - whereas if you are enchanting a lvl 120 epic item, you should be getting enchants that use lvl 120 epic mats.

The problem is, they didn't finish fleshing out the epic enchants. A great many of the lvl 100 blue enchants don't have epic upgrades. And they strangely chose to have all the ones that do use epic mats also require even more blue mats.

In the absence of Blizzard addressing this (which they won't - there won't be significant changes pre the next expansion, and by then we will be heading for 450 skill and nobody will care about Voids or LPS anymore), the playerbase and the market has to decide how to deal with it themselves.

Why are epic mats worth so little and blue so much? Because there are too many epics being sharded and not enough blues.
Why is this? Because progression has got to the point where people are able to farm epic-producing dungeons and think theyr'e above blue-producing ones.

This perception of "being above" running blue dungeons is what is keeping the price high. If you need Copper, you can go farm it in Elwynn Forest, or if you feel you are too awesome for that, you can buy it from some level 10, for money which is nothing to you but huge to him. Blizzard isn't going to make a recipe that turns Adamantite into Copper just so you don't have to do that.
It's the same principle here, just further advanced. If you need LPS, you can slum it back to blue dungeons, or if you feel you are too awesome for that you can pay someone in blues to get them for you.
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  • 15. Re: Transmute: Void Crystal into Large Prisma   01/31/2008 05:56:03 PM PST
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For the above who argued that going from more expensive to less doesn't make sense, they obviously didnt' realize that the situation was the same back in the day for Heart of fire -> 3 elemental Fire.
Heart of fire was as low as 50 silver and elemental fire were 3-5 each for the fire prot pots back in the day.

The transmute, on a 10 minute cooldown no less fixed that completely

I think it should be 1 Void -> 3 LPS w/ 48 hour cooldown. Then lower the cost of LPS and increase the cost of voids in many of the enchants.
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  • Kalecgos
  • 16. Re: Transmute: Void Crystal into Large Prisma   01/31/2008 06:30:08 PM PST
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  • 17. Re: Transmute: Void Crystal into Large Prisma   01/31/2008 07:13:29 PM PST
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I love soloing ramparts and selling overpriced LPS.

Bad change.
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  • Altar of Storms
  • 18. Re: Transmute: Void Crystal into Large Prisma   01/31/2008 09:20:42 PM PST
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This idea is terrible for enchanters.
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  • 19. Re: Transmute: Void Crystal into Large Prisma   01/31/2008 09:37:47 PM PST
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Blizzard should cut back on the amount of epics drop in an instance and perhaps make some of them blue. Back when ZG came out, the bosses dropped really good blues. The stats were epic quality (like the caster dps belt for example) but were blue in color. Perhaps have the begging bosses in Kara/ZA such as Attunemen drop 1 blue and 1 epic instead of 2 epics or whatever it is he drops.

Same stats and all, just different colors.
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