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  • Runetotem
  • 0. Less trash in heroics   01/18/2008 11:39:22 AM PST
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Did heroic sh last night and we must have killed over 200 mobs. It took forever even with a good tank and very few deaths.

Would less mobs be a better option and maybe balance it out with tougher boss fights? Not all instances need it but some really do (i.e. sh, crypts, bot, etc.)

Heroics are maybe harder than Kara but give less badges. Is all I am asking for is less trash mobs.

Anyone agree?
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  • Cenarius
  • 2. Re: Less trash in heroics   01/18/2008 11:43:48 AM PST
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Get a paladin to tank heroic SH for you.

30 minutes from start to finish.

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  • Cenarius
  • 3. Re: Less trash in heroics   01/18/2008 11:43:56 AM PST
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Pfft, heroic SH = less than 45 minutes with a pally tank.

ANAL ... because having a kid hurts worse than a d!ck in the ass
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  • Runetotem
  • 4. Re: Less trash in heroics   01/18/2008 11:45:41 AM PST
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Q u o t e:
/signed

Edit: Nevermind, I thought you were asking for less trash players in Heroics. WTB exalted heroic key requirements and 5k gold key costs.


Already did a thread on heroic pugs. It was 17 pages of people either "/signed" or people saying "you are an ellitest pr*ck."
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  • 5. Re: Less trash in heroics   01/18/2008 11:47:35 AM PST
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Wouldn't the complaint be "SH has too much trash"?

Heroic trash is the only actual challenge, heroic bosses might as well be converted to vendors as is.
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  • Runetotem
  • 6. Re: Less trash in heroics   01/18/2008 11:49:45 AM PST
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Q u o t e:
Wouldn't the complaint be "SH has too much trash"?

Heroic trash is the only actual challenge, heroic bosses might as well be converted to vendors as is.


Exactly, if it would be reversed that would make my game experience a lot more interesting and less time consuming.
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  • 7. Re: Less trash in heroics   01/18/2008 11:51:12 AM PST
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I never quite understood when they buffed some trash and nerfed the bosses into silliness.
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  • Cenarius
  • 8. Re: Less trash in heroics   01/18/2008 11:53:18 AM PST
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Exactly, if it would be reversed that would make my game experience a lot more interesting and less time consuming.


You're complaining that heroic trash is too challenging?

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    Don't stop and drink, just use your mana intelligently
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    Mark using macros, and preferably have the tank just grab everything, use no CC

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  • Runetotem
  • 9. Re: Less trash in heroics   01/18/2008 11:56:43 AM PST
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You're complaining that heroic trash is too challenging?

PROTIPS TO RUN FAST HEROICS
    Don't stop and drink, just use your mana intelligently
    Get a good tank
    Mark using macros, and preferably have the tank just grab everything, use no CC



I would not say the trash is too challenging, just that there is way too much of it.
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  • 11. Re: Less trash in heroics   01/18/2008 12:03:09 PM PST
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"Trash" mobs do serve a purpose in dungeons though and while they may not be your favorite part of the dungeon, we try and keep a good balance of it versus the rewards of the particular dungeon.

Shattered Halls may have a fair amount of trash, but I believe it can drop up to five badges of justice which is the most you can get from a heroic dungeon so it makes sense for it to be a challenge to get through.

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  • 13. Re: Less trash in heroics   01/18/2008 12:04:18 PM PST
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The trash is the hard part - take it out and it's not really a heroic anymore.
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  • Twisting Nether
  • 14. Re: Less trash in heroics   01/18/2008 12:05:35 PM PST
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Pfft, heroic SH = less than 45 minutes with a pally tank.

I can do it in that speed too. Get better warriors.

lol wut?
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  • Blackhand
  • 15. Re: Less trash in heroics   01/18/2008 12:05:42 PM PST
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The trash is the hard part - take it out and it's not really a heroic anymore.



Yeah before several of the nerfs came through it was always somewhat disorienting to go through trash that had been beefed up to retarded levels and then hit a boss that felt like it wasn't on heroic.

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  • 16. Re: Less trash in heroics   01/18/2008 12:05:59 PM PST
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Personal heroic SH record, 42 mins. Personal heroic SP record, 34 minutes. I like running through heroics.
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  • Gorefiend
  • 17. Re: Less trash in heroics   01/18/2008 12:06:12 PM PST
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"Trash" mobs do serve a purpose in dungeons though and while they may not be your favorite part of the dungeon, we try and keep a good balance of it versus the rewards of the particular dungeon.

Shattered Halls may have a fair amount of trash, but it also drops five badges of justice which is the most you can get from a heroic dungeon so it makes sense for it to be a challenge to get through.
What about trash in raid instances? You cannot tell me that 30-45 minutes of trash in between each boss is reasonable. You also have to consider all the re-clears if you wipe and the trash has re-spawned.

Remove like 50% of the trash from places like SSC/TK imo. You guys had BWL, Mag, Ony and Gruuls trash down perfect.

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  • 19. Re: Less trash in heroics   01/18/2008 12:06:55 PM PST
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Trash won't disappear because it's a cheap way to make people play longer, just like random drops.

Realistically if Blizzard wanted to cater to player needs, they'd remove mob respawns from EVERY instance and raid.

Change the loot quality if you have to, I'd rather have fun then good gear.
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