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  • 0. Fix the Black Flame faction. -Landro Longshot   12/30/2007 07:25:00 AM PST
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This was previously posted in the Suggestion Forum with the same title. Moving it here, as other members suggest this is the correct place to report the problem.

OP: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3686739698&postId=36863180646&sid=1#0

My Post #1:
Landro Longshot is part of the Black Flame faction. He is not at all related to the Steamweedle Cartel. However, he is currently bugged and HALF reacting to Hated Booty Bay reputation players.

This is what occurs. A player hated by Booty Bay fights his way to Landro Longshot, killing ALL bruisers in the area.

Landro Longshot remains green to player and provides a talk bubble for the player to interact with.

Upon clicking Landro Longshot to begin conversation, a Booty Bay Bruiser spawns to defend Landro Longshot, while Landro Longshot's own Bodyguards remain still since the player is NOT attacking Landro Longshot.

Having others there to control and kill the spawn is of no use, as attempting to re-initiate conversation with Landro Longshot creates another Booty Bay Bruiser spawn. Meaning, that if you attempt to speak with Landro Longshot 3 times; 3 Booty Bay Bruisers will spawn.

The importance for this change is as follow: Landro Longshot is the WoW Trading Card Game (TCG) rewards provider. You must speak to him in order to attain items such as the Flame/Frost Tabards, Spectral Tiger Mounts, Paper Airplanes, etc.

Some Player Characters have decided to forgo the Booty Bay faction, and pursue reputation with the Bloodsail Buccaneers. Any Player Character that attains or would like to attain a TCG reward - that is reputed with the Bloodsail Buccaneers - cannot redeem the reward without first undoing the hours of game play done to attain the reputation with the Bloodsail Buccaneers.

Considering that Landro Longshot is NOT affiliated with Booty Bay or any other Steamweedle Cartel factions. Players with hated reputation towards the Steamweedle Cartel should be allowed to redeem their TCG rewards. (Especially after taking the time to kill their way through Booty Bay Bruisers to reach Landro Longshot.)

My Post #2:
We cleared every single Bruiser in the vicinity. We even killed all the merchants in the area. The Black Flame is not attackable and always remains green to you.

The reason that it doesn't work is because every time someone hated by the Steamwheedle Cartel talks to Landro Longshot, a Bruiser spawns. You can essentially have a FULL RAID GROUP of polymorphing Mages and all that you will wind up with is 39 pigs, turtles, etc.; and 1 Bruiser still attacking the Steamwheedle Cartel Hated individual.

Every time that the hated individual talks to Landro Longshot. A Bruiser spawns. Talk to him 100 times and win 100 Bruisers for your death.

My Post #3:
Yes. The Bruiser spawning interrupts the conversation that person A is having, as he attacks when he spawns. When person B takes the agro and person A attempts to speak with Landro Longshot again, another Bruiser spawn interrupts the conversation.

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  • 1. Re: Fix the Black Flame faction. -Landro Long   01/05/2008 06:54:23 AM PST
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Can this Get some attention?

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  • 2. Re: Fix the Black Flame faction. -Landro Long   01/05/2008 07:38:03 AM PST
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Sounds like he got the same "spawn guard" routine that some other NPC's have (mostly the ones in the buiildings, if you attack them they spawn a guard, but if you are Hated by Booty Bay, you already know this, lol) except you don't have to attack him.

I would call that a serious bug, and hope it gets fixed fast.
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  • 3. Re: Fix the Black Flame faction. -Landro Long   01/10/2008 01:57:40 PM PST
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I agree with you fully. As it does react the same way. Only difference is that; if you hit a town merchant while hated or at war. They will only spawn ONE guard. If you then attack that guard and some one else hits the town merchant you hit first. No other guard spawns. So it is actually worse than attacking a town member for Bloodsail reputation. I believe the constant guard spawns come because Landro Longshot remains friendly to you as you cannot attack him.

It is something that needs to be fix for the benefit of all players of any faction. I wish there were some way to have a blue post on this subject, even if it is to say that they are looking into it. Some attention would be great.

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  • 4. Re: Fix the Black Flame faction. -Landro Long   02/08/2008 08:10:13 AM PST
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Need to bump this. I would like to see some sort of response to this.

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  • 5. Re: Fix the Black Flame faction. -Landro Long   02/08/2008 11:48:46 AM PST
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Hi Lieandra,

Landro does not actually cause the guards to spawn, they spawn based on the location you are standing. Some of these spawns will be adjusted in a future patch which will make it easier to speak with Landro. You will still have to deal with the guards while talking to him but they should be less frequent.

[ Post edited by Hortus ]


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  • 6. Re: Fix the Black Flame faction. -Landro Long   02/12/2008 03:07:18 PM PST
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OMG. A blue post response!

Thank you. I can't wait to have it actually fixed. I am not sure what you mean by where we are standing at, as we killed every NPC in the area, and nothing spawned until my friend spoke to Landro. It would not happen when I would talk to Landro as I am in good standing with Steamwheedle.

But if you are fixing it so that we can deal with Landro Longshot's... AWESOME. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

Now which patch you talking: 2.4?????

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  • 7. Re: Fix the Black Flame faction. -Landro Long   04/13/2008 03:23:31 PM PDT
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Several patches have gone by. Have not seen a fix annotated withing any of them. When will this be addressed? Any time soon?

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  • 8. Re: Fix the Black Flame faction. -Landro Long   04/14/2008 09:46:50 AM PDT
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The changes to guard spawns have been made. As I said before you will still have to deal with the guards but it should be easier now. I've found that if you stand behind Landro it should be possible to speak with him without too much difficulty.

Being a Bloodsail Buccaneer is not meant to be easy. Dealing with the Booty Bay guards is the price you pay for the second coolest hat in the game (mine being the coolest).

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  • 9. Re: Fix the Black Flame faction. -Landro Long   04/14/2008 03:28:17 PM PDT
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Thank you. You provide closure for this great dilemma. :)


Q u o t e:
second coolest hat in the game (mine being the coolest).
And HOW would I go about looting that hat off of you? Please do tell! :)

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  • 10. Re: Fix the Black Flame faction. -Landro Long   04/14/2008 03:51:31 PM PDT
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any good a poker?
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  • 11. Re: Fix the Black Flame faction. -Landro Long   04/14/2008 08:14:04 PM PDT
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Q u o t e:


And HOW would I go about looting that hat off of you? Please do tell! :)


Doesn't that Goblin in the middle of Tanaris (at a ruined temple) have a quest where you need to where a hat like that? Just take the quest but never finish it and you can be like Mike (or is it Hortus?).
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  • 12. Re: Fix the Black Flame faction. -Landro Long   04/15/2008 07:16:04 AM PDT
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Or just take up engineering and make this: http://wowhead.com/?item=10726
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  • 13. Re: Fix the Black Flame faction. -Landro Long   04/15/2008 09:44:46 AM PDT
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except his I am sure has stats that are much cooler like "Conjure up some delicious cake" or the C'thun tentacle use affect.

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  • 14. Re: Fix the Black Flame faction. -Landro Long   04/15/2008 11:07:44 PM PDT
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Q u o t e:
The changes to guard spawns have been made. As I said before you will still have to deal with the guards but it should be easier now. I've found that if you stand behind Landro it should be possible to speak with him without too much difficulty.

Being a Bloodsail Buccaneer is not meant to be easy. Dealing with the Booty Bay guards is the price you pay for the second coolest hat in the game (mine being the coolest).


Hey Hortus , any thoughts on giving us a special title for getting rep with Bloodsail? I think it'd be awesome to be Admiral Bgizle or something like that, YOU DIG
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  • 15. Re: Fix the Black Flame faction. -Landro Long   04/15/2008 11:19:20 PM PDT
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Q u o t e:
(mine being the coolest).


No, it's mine! (well, whenever I'm in a city ;)

Seriously, though, it is simply the best. If it, or Dartols Rod, ever get removed because we've dropped the quest, I'll consider it a bug and hassle you endlessly about it! :P

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  • 16. Re: Fix the Black Flame faction. -Landro Long   04/16/2008 04:44:22 AM PDT
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I thought Hortus wore:
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=9978

Turning in the fishing quest is a treat while hated with Booty Bay. On the bright side the pirates still have no problems with me and I can buy Noggenfoggers. Just 25 or so solid Dire Maul runs and those poor gobos will forget I ever slaughtered them.
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  • 17. Re: Fix the Black Flame faction. -Landro Long   04/17/2008 01:51:00 PM PDT
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Q u o t e:
I thought Hortus wore:
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=9978

Turning in the fishing quest is a treat while hated with Booty Bay. On the bright side the pirates still have no problems with me and I can buy Noggenfoggers. Just 25 or so solid Dire Maul runs and those poor gobos will forget I ever slaughtered them.


Is it really only 25 or so runs? That's not so bad. I thought it was a hundred or more. Guess me and my pirate partner can get to work fixing our goblin rep.

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