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Safiyo

Malygos

41. Re: Draenai = 2nd fear ward? 10/19/2006 11:43:19 AM PDT

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Dwarves are the best PvE priests.

Making your tank immune to fear once every 30 seconds > 10% more spirit.

No, humans really are better. Nefarian is old obsolete content, real guilds don't have a use for fear ward.

Suialthor

< The Brothers Disgrun… >

Gorefiend

42. Re: Draenai = 2nd fear ward? 10/19/2006 11:43:38 AM PDT

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I really hope horde gets Fear Ward, any alliance player that says we shouldn't get it is a jackass.

I have no complaints with Horde getting fear ward.

Please start pushing for the alliance to get real pvp racials while you balance everything.

Eyonix

Blizzard Poster

43. Re: Draenai = 2nd fear ward? 10/19/2006 11:44:22 AM PDT

Keep in mind something extremely relevant and important. An ability which prevents fear from affecting a character, while useful under certain circumstances, is going to have far less use in the Burning Crusade, not to mention a diminished level of impact. Not only will crowd control mechanics such as fear be far less effective in player vs player situations, in both raid and dungeons we don't plan to empower too many mobs with fear.

Try to absorb this change for what it is and what it will mean rather than allow this "old argument" to dictate your disposition.

Beyond all of the above, there will be new ways (for both factions) to remove and/or prevent fear in the Burning Crusade. So, in short -- lay down that crutch, you don't need it anymore. :P

[ Post edited by Eyonix ]

Brianfellow

Azjol-Nerub

45. Re: Draenai = 2nd fear ward? 10/19/2006 11:44:56 AM PDT

Q u o t e:

Dwarves are the best PvE priests.

Making your tank immune to fear once every 30 seconds > 10% more spirit.

Past the second dwarf priest (if even that) it's not much of a benefit. With all the new/old spirit based talents, human spirit is pretty amazing. Night elves of course still have absolutely jack.

Okay, so dwarves are now eyowned too. Humans are the best.

[ Post edited by Brianfellow ]

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Holykweep

Darkspear

46. Re: Draenai = 2nd fear ward? 10/19/2006 11:45:22 AM PDT

awesome

Just because I rock doesn't mean I'm made of stone.

Uoxana

Earthen Ring

47. Re: Draenai = 2nd fear ward? 10/19/2006 11:45:44 AM PDT

I am on the fence about this. On one hand, I see how much help fearward can be in both pvp and pve. Maybe there won't be as many mass fear fights in the expansion, but if there are then giving a second alliance race fearward is simply unbalanced. On the other hand, I would hate for Horde to get into the whole X race is the best race for priests or "we only want X race priests in our guild".

I personally think that Fearward should either be eliminated from the game, or should become a priest class spell (not tied to race), and dwarves and draenei given a new racial.

Boosh

< Tough Customers >

Balnazzar

48. Re: Draenai = 2nd fear ward? 10/19/2006 11:45:49 AM PDT

fifth

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Dumbledore

< Saecula >

Onyxia

49. Re: Draenai = 2nd fear ward? 10/19/2006 11:46:20 AM PDT

How about you stop making alliance EASY MODE

Hiddendragon

< Infernus Praetorium >

Thunderlord

50. Re: Draenai = 2nd fear ward? 10/19/2006 11:46:26 AM PDT

Q u o t e:
Keep in mind something extremely relevant and important. An ability which prevents fear from affecting a character, while useful under certain circumstances, is going to have far less use in the Burning Crusade, not to mention a diminished level of impact. Not only will crowd control mechanics such as fear be far less effective in player vs player situations, in both raid and dungeons we don't plan empower too many mobs with fear.

Try to absorb this change for what it is and what it will mean rather than allow this "old argument" to dictate your disposition.

Beyond all of the above, there will be new ways (for both factions) to remove and/or prevent fear in the Burning Crusade. So, in short -- lay down that crutch, you don't need it anymore. :P

Preach on brother!

Stupidpants

< Shatter >

Chromaggus

51. Re: Draenai = 2nd fear ward? 10/19/2006 11:46:31 AM PDT

What am I useless now?

Irhuntar

< General Mayhem >

Darkspear

53. Re: Draenai = 2nd fear ward? 10/19/2006 11:48:27 AM PDT

For Ony, Magmadar, etc

Horde warriors have to learn how to Switch to Berserker stance and hit Berserker rage every 30 seconds.

Alliance warriors don't.

Bye.

Prowler

< Guild Serenity >

Khaz'goroth

54. Re: Draenai = 2nd fear ward? 10/19/2006 11:49:03 AM PDT

Q u o t e:
Keep in mind something extremely relevant and important. An ability which prevents fear from affecting a character, while useful under certain circumstances, is going to have far less use in the Burning Crusade, not to mention a diminished level of impact. Not only will crowd control mechanics such as fear be far less effective in player vs player situations, in both raid and dungeons we don't plan to empower too many mobs with fear.

Try to absorb this change for what it is and what it will mean rather than allow this "old argument" to dictate your disposition.

Beyond all of the above, there will be new ways (for both factions) to remove and/or prevent fear in the Burning Crusade. So, in short -- lay down that crutch, you don't need it anymore. :P

If this is accurate, Then they can keep fearward.

But i honestly did not think blizz would change its ways of fear-mechanic abuse in endgame raids, especially with something like the demon-invested outland was involved.

It's nice to be proven wrong.

"Pshaw, real men tank 5-man instances with a 2h'er and zerker stance. :P" - Kalgan

Ryffle

< Crimson Dragoons >

Daggerspine

55. Re: Draenai = 2nd fear ward? 10/19/2006 11:49:27 AM PDT

Q u o t e:
What am I useless now?

Oh no! Does that mean we cant heal or buff anyone anymore after fearward is gone??

:P

Safiyo

Malygos

56. Re: Draenai = 2nd fear ward? 10/19/2006 11:50:14 AM PDT

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Um thats nice, but from what I heard all the races are getting fear ward now anyway.

No, that started with a few people on the forums suggesting that all races should get fear ward, and somehow it evolved into a rumor that the game devs were really going to give everyone fear ward, which isn't the case.

Felio

< Spiritual Guides >

Shadow Council

57. Re: Draenai = 2nd fear ward? 10/19/2006 11:50:49 AM PDT

Q u o t e:
Keep in mind something extremely relevant and important. An ability which prevents fear from affecting a character, while useful under certain circumstances, is going to have far less use in the Burning Crusade, not to mention a diminished level of impact. Not only will crowd control mechanics such as fear be far less effective in player vs player situations, in both raid and dungeons we don't plan to empower too many mobs with fear.

Try to absorb this change for what it is and what it will mean rather than allow this "old argument" to dictate your disposition.

Beyond all of the above, there will be new ways (for both factions) to remove and/or prevent fear in the Burning Crusade. So, in short -- lay down that crutch, you don't need it anymore. :P

If the usefulness of fear and CC is being diminished in PvP, how will priests stay alive? As it stands now, fear is the only way for them to gain some distance. Melee DPS is as such that priest can otherwise pretty much stand there and heal themselves until they run out of mana or die.

Ritavu

< Mythos >

Feathermoon

58. Re: Draenai = 2nd fear ward? 10/19/2006 11:51:35 AM PDT

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Easy rep = nerf to Diplomacy

This resoning only makes sense if you assume that Diplomacy's only purpose was to make an unreasonably long rep grind somewhat more tolerable.

If TBC rep comes more easily, then Humans will grind it that much faster. The effect is exactly the same, but its overall impact is less significant. But isn't that still a nerf? No, because the human toons will benefit from the speedy rep just as much as everyone else will. The advantage of a rep grind is that it isn't a zero-sum game, like loot awards are. You aren't any worse off just because someone else is gaining rep faster than before, and you're still ahead of them anyways.

Llanfar

< Catalyst >

Korgath

59. Re: Draenai = 2nd fear ward? 10/19/2006 11:52:50 AM PDT

Q u o t e:
Keep in mind something extremely relevant and important. An ability which prevents fear from affecting a character, while useful under certain circumstances, is going to have far less use in the Burning Crusade, not to mention a diminished level of impact. Not only will crowd control mechanics such as fear be far less effective in player vs player situations, in both raid and dungeons we don't plan to empower too many mobs with fear.

Try to absorb this change for what it is and what it will mean rather than allow this "old argument" to dictate your disposition.

Beyond all of the above, there will be new ways (for both factions) to remove and/or prevent fear in the Burning Crusade. So, in short -- lay down that crutch, you don't need it anymore. :P

The cynic in me wonders if priests will have zero means of CC/escape in PvP combat in BC?

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