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  • 0. Warlock Q/A for BC Closed Beta   10/11/2006 11:52:46 PM PDT
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There's no NDA for closed beta, so if people have specific questions about warlock changes, post them here (thanks to Chrohnos for answering questions)

Some of the most asked questions:

- fear is 1.5 cast still
- howl of terror base cast is 1.5sec (instant with talents)
- as of 10/13/06, pet scaling IS now in for warlocks (details on post 228, page 12)
- base drain range is 30 yards
- polymorph/fear lasts ~ 10 sec in arena (seduce is 5 sec)
- as of 10/12/06, level cap is 67, so level 70 spells havent been tested yet (seed of corruption)
- shadow embrace puts a debuff on the target, adding a affliction bonus to soul siphon (1 point in shadow embrace will do)
- no DS effect for fel guard (yet)
- VW DS has been changed to 2% hp (from 3%), however, it is affected by fel armor

[ Post edited by Alfi ]

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  • Doomhammer
  • 1. Re: any warlock questions for BC closed beta?   10/12/2006 12:01:18 AM PDT
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I am interested about any info on the Felguard and pet scaling via master's items.
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  • Bleeding Hollow
  • 2. Re: any warlock questions for BC closed beta?   10/12/2006 12:05:13 AM PDT
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Yes, definite info on how the pets scale with gear. Like say blue's, do you notice a significant increase in pet survivability or DPS?

Also, Fear. Can you confirm that Fear cast time is being lowered or instant?

Gear. Anyway you can post links for new blue gear or gear other than the Arena sets?

Also what's the average HP for classes in the Beta with their new gear?

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  • Dragonblight
  • 3. Re: any warlock questions for BC closed beta?   10/12/2006 12:10:28 AM PDT
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What is the cast time on fear?
What is the cast time on howl of terror?
What are the felguard's abilities?
State your gear and give pet stats for each pet, with and without demonology spec.
Does soul siphon % bonus apply before or after +dmg gear?
Is improved curse of agony talent before or after +dmg gear?
Is the range on drain mana and drain life really 30 yards (36 with grimreach)?
What % of +dmg does UA get, both to the dot part and the dd part (if any)?
How does shadows embrace talent work?
How much does dark pact scale with +dmg gear? 80% like lifetap?
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  • Dethecus
  • 6. Re: any warlock questions for BC closed beta?   10/12/2006 12:20:17 AM PDT
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Answers to all your beta questions!

--Fear is still 1.5s cast

--Howl of terror is now base 1.5s cast

--Felguard is crap as of now since pet scaling is not yet in for warlocks, but it is for hunters and from what I could tell they were verrrry happy with it. Abilities intercept, frenzy (inc attack speed with each attack), 50% to avoid aoe attacks, cleave (crap damage), and a taunt ability. Don't worry too much about it for now though since they'll probably improve him.

--I don't know how damage was applied for siphon life but it was doing ~130/tick in raid gear + new TBC stuff

--Imp Agony talent appears to be before +dmg, but the new rank does a ton of damage, well worth it if you plan to go full affliction

--Yes the base range is 30 yards and fantastic

--UA gets 100% damage for the dot and NO damage for the dispell portion, but the dispel portion can crit (Your Unstable affliciton crits for 2430 :-D)

--Shadow Embrace is crappy and hard to notice that it's even there, however it adds another affliction effect to the enemy, helping soul siphon.

--I don't know how much dark pact scales, but the rank I was using at level 67 gave about 1100 mana iirc
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  • Daggerspine
  • 7. Re: any warlock questions for BC closed beta?   10/12/2006 12:22:31 AM PDT
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If any of these are alread known, forgive me and then answer them :)

*does incinerate have a travel time?
*does shadowfury look as awesome as its name implies?
*felguard: ability cooldowns?
*general pet scaling: is it just damage that scales, or will we see increases to bloodpact, fire shield, VW taunts, sacrifice, etc? I am particularly curious about the imp's abilities. To what degree do the spells scale?
*mana cost and base damage of max rank shadowbolt?
*does the exlposion from seed of corruption also damage the target of the initial spell? can it crit?
*can shadowfury crit?
*fel armor: does the 20% affect only spells, or potions, bandages, and healthstones as well? does it increase the health gained from soul leech?

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  • Dethecus
  • 8. Re: any warlock questions for BC closed beta?   10/12/2006 12:23:04 AM PDT
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More Q's

--I believe the DS 3%/2% thing was a typo, but blizz never answered us on whether or not it was real nerf or what. Servers are down now so I can't check.

--PvP fights last longer in the since that people don't really get 1 shot, but they can still be very brief.

--Mobs in outland appear to be much more difficult. Priests were complaining that their PW: Shield was not lasting long enough b/c mobs hit harder.



*does incinerate have a travel time?
-Yes

*does shadowfury look as awesome as its name implies?
--It looks neat but kinda silly b/c that illidan icon pops up above your head when you cast it lol

*mana cost and base damage of max rank shadowbolt?
--Not certain but it's the same regular increase as the other shadowbolts, I think max damage was ~650 or so. Both unbuffed, SB does about the same damage as incinerate w/ immolate on.

--Fel armor does affect other things, but not bandages or other random things like that. Yes it does work wiht healthstones.

[ Post edited by Chrohnos ]

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  • Dethecus
  • 10. Re: any warlock questions for BC closed beta?   10/12/2006 12:28:19 AM PDT
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It's a debuff, yes, but I don't know if it works for players other than the warlock b/c the difference is so minute. Primarily it is good to stack with CoW, imp CoW (which brings the reduction to -73 damage), siphon life, drain life, soul siphon, and the new imp drain soul. With this you can finish every mob fight at nearly 100% mana/health.

[ Post edited by Chrohnos ]

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  • Dragonblight
  • 11. Re: any warlock questions for BC closed beta?   10/12/2006 12:29:35 AM PDT
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Q u o t e:
--I don't know how damage was applied for siphon life but it was doing ~130/tick in raid gear + new TBC stuff


Soul siphon, not siphon life. Soul siphon is the talent that boosts drain life damage by 5% for every affliction effect on the target.

Could you give say what the base damage of the rank of drain life you have is, how much +shadow dmg gear you have, and how much damage drain life actually dealt to the enemy with say 2, 3, 4 etc affliction effects? It would be easy to calculate then.

130 siphon life ticks are very nice though.


Q u o t e:
--Shadow Embrace is crappy and hard to notice that it's even there, however it adds another affliction effect to the enemy, helping soul siphon.


Wow, that's actually a major help to the talent, last we were told it was a buff to yourself that reduced the physical dmg you took by 5%. If it is a debuff on the target then it will be very nice for raids.

[ Post edited by Karalyn ]

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  • 12. Re: any warlock questions for BC closed beta?   10/12/2006 12:31:40 AM PDT
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good stuff Chrohnos, ill update the first post with the most asked questions

btw, how long is the server down for? :P halfway done downloading the client
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  • Dethecus
  • 13. Re: any warlock questions for BC closed beta?   10/12/2006 12:37:14 AM PDT
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Q u o t e:

Soul siphon, not siphon life. Soul siphon is the talent that boosts drain life damage by 5% for every affliction effect on the target.

Could you give say what the base damage of the rank of drain life you have is, how much +shadow dmg gear you have, and how much damage drain life actually dealt to the enemy with say 2, 3, 4 etc affliction effects? It would be easy to calculate then.


I'm not sure for certain where it applies to +dmg gear b/c it was broken until about a week ago so I never got a chance to really test it.

HOWEVER, as an afflicion lock drain life would be doing 250-300 dps, and the highest I ever saw it go was 452, so I would only be worried that it gets nerfed, not that it may be too weak ;-p

I have 700-900 dmg gear, somewhere in there.


Q u o t e:
Wow, that's actually a major help to the talent, last we were told it was a buff to yourself that reduced the physical dmg you took by 5%. If it is a debuff on the target then it will be very nice for raids.


I said we weren't sure if it works for other players besides the lock. There were no big raids to test it on so it's difficult to tell with only a 5% decrease.
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  • Dethecus
  • 14. Re: any warlock questions for BC closed beta?   10/12/2006 12:38:09 AM PDT
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At 10am today they said it would be down for 24 hours.
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  • Blackrock
  • 16. Re: any warlock questions for BC closed beta?   10/12/2006 12:42:27 AM PDT
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How long does seduce and fear last in the arena?
How does nether protection work vs dots?
Is seed of corruption affected by improved corruption?


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  • Dethecus
  • 17. Re: any warlock questions for BC closed beta?   10/12/2006 12:44:19 AM PDT
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Q u o t e:
How long does seduce and fear last in the arena?
How does nether protection work vs dots?
Is seed of corruption affected by improved corruption?


Seduce lasts about 5 seconds, fear lasts about 10, polymorph about 10

The initial cast will proc NP. For 4 seconds you're immune.

Level cap was 67 so couldn't test 70 spells. We don't know how it will work and I don't think blizz has decided either.

[ Post edited by Chrohnos ]

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  • 18. Re: any warlock questions for BC closed beta?   10/12/2006 12:50:57 AM PDT
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Q u o t e:
--Felguard is crap as of now since pet scaling is not yet in for warlocks, but it is for hunters and from what I could tell they were verrrry happy with it. Abilities intercept, frenzy (inc attack speed with each attack), 50% to avoid aoe attacks, cleave (crap damage), and a taunt ability. Don't worry too much about it for now though since they'll probably improve him.


Is that 5 abilities? Or 4 abilities and the avoidance being a quality like fire immunity for an Infernal?

What are the mechanics of Frenzy, the Taunt, and Intercept? How crappy is Cleave (dmg and number of targets)?
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  • Frostwolf
  • 19. Re: any warlock questions for BC closed beta?   10/12/2006 12:52:01 AM PDT
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What's the leveling rate like?
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