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  • 0. Bots in BG   12/03/2007 03:34:57 PM PST
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Time 9:30am Tuesday Australian +10GMT
In warsong gultch this one person had three other hunters following him/her doing all the same attacks similtaniously (not spelt right) doing everything and where ever this one person went the three other hunters followed, we took names and server. It was the level 19 WSG BG

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Please tell me how they where doing this and if they were not please proove it to me because my mind is set on that they were

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  • 1. Re: Bots in BG   12/03/2007 03:37:19 PM PST
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Time 9:30am Tuesday Australian +10GMT
In warsong gultch this one person had three other hunters following him/her doing all the same attacks similtaniously (not spelt right) doing everything and where ever this one person went the three other hunters followed, we took names and server.

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please tell me how they where doing this and if they were not please proove it to me because my mind is set on that they were



it's called multi-boxing, one person controls multiple accounts at the same time using software to "split" a keypress to each instance of the game running. it's perfectly allowed i believe

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  • 2. Re: Bots in BG   12/03/2007 03:43:03 PM PST
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That just stinks it ruined the game for us. we just sat down and took it
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  • 3. Re: Bots in BG   12/03/2007 03:43:40 PM PST
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This was me laughing about the names of the characters in question. Since blue removed them from the original I figured I better as well.

But it was pretty funny...:)

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  • 4. Re: Bots in BG   12/03/2007 03:44:03 PM PST
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As a general recommendation, fear or CC the leader. If the characters separate, their coordination is usually spoiled.
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  • 5. Re: Bots in BG   12/03/2007 03:44:17 PM PST
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Can we get a Blizz to clear up this situation?

Edit: well my twink is a rogue and we had no hope of getting near them
they would just use their boars to stun us and hit us with arcane shot or multi shot

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  • 6. Re: Bots in BG   12/03/2007 03:48:30 PM PST
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so it is legal????
is that why you removed the names???
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  • 7. Re: Bots in BG   12/03/2007 03:48:48 PM PST
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There is no situation. This is perfectly acceptable.
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  • 8. Re: Bots in BG   12/03/2007 03:50:11 PM PST
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Argh thats disgracful
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  • 9. Re: Bots in BG   12/03/2007 03:51:51 PM PST
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We do not prevent people from owning multiple accounts, nor playing those accounts simultaneously as long as they abide by our Terms of Use and EULA.

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/legal/

Multiply Boxing while not common, has been done in many MMO's, and as long as you steer clear of using Third Party Programs to automate the game play it is a perfectly legitimate practice.

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http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?articleId=20224

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  • 10. Re: Bots in BG   12/03/2007 03:52:05 PM PST
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oops sorry vrak for making you do more work


OP if you think this kind of multi-boxing shouldnt be allowed you can always post to the suggestions forum requesting they change the policy

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  • 11. Re: Bots in BG   12/03/2007 03:52:49 PM PST
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Argh thats disgracful


No it's not. They are playing each and every one of those characters, and they are at the keyboard, this is not botting. No amount of you thinking it's unfair will change that. In fact, I applaud them for having hte coordination and macros and such to do this. I know i couldn't
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  • 12. Re: Bots in BG   12/03/2007 03:53:04 PM PST
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so it is legal????
is that why you removed the names???


That is correct. Multiboxing is entirely acceptable provided all commands are entered manually. While it would be forbidden to automate one of the characters in question, multiboxing relies instead on splitting a keyboard's output to multiple computers. Provided the commands are entered manually, the TOS makes no requirements that the commands be entered separately and individually for each account, presuming of course no account-sharing is in place.
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  • 13. Re: Bots in BG   12/03/2007 04:01:05 PM PST
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i really dont like that. and theres no point in arguing a rule or a slip rule, so thanks for clearing that up with out the needing of a blizz person even though they did editing i would have atleast expected them to post
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  • 14. Re: Bots in BG   12/03/2007 04:03:03 PM PST
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i really dont like that. and theres no point in arguing a rule or a slip rule, so thanks for clearing that up with out the needing of a blizz person even though they did editing i would have atleast expected them to post


o_O ummm blue posted 4 posts up

Did you cause some kind of time paradox vrak? Like in Back to the Future, where you are slowly disappearing?

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  • 15. Re: Bots in BG   12/03/2007 04:06:20 PM PST
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i didnt see that must have a slow comp or bad eyes >.< both i think
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  • 16. Re: Bots in BG   12/03/2007 10:00:49 PM PST
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That is correct. Multiboxing is entirely acceptable provided all commands are entered manually. While it would be forbidden to automate one of the characters in question, multiboxing relies instead on splitting a keyboard's output to multiple computers. Provided the commands are entered manually, the TOS makes no requirements that the commands be entered separately and individually for each account, presuming of course no account-sharing is in place.



Im sorry but that isn't accurate, if Blizz would investigate instead of assuming they could find a rule break in there.

That is a paid service, the person running those characters was paid to collect HPs for the owners of those Characters. I bet if Blizz investigated they would find all characters to have different payment info, different emails, different info all togother, so if one person is boxing those Characters, its account sharing... and that is against the rules.
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  • 17. Re: Bots in BG   12/03/2007 10:14:42 PM PST
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Im sorry but that isn't accurate, if Blizz would investigate instead of assuming they could find a rule break in there.

That is a paid service, the person running those characters was paid to collect HPs for the owners of those Characters. I bet if Blizz investigated they would find all characters to have different payment info, different emails, different info all togother, so if one person is boxing those Characters, its account sharing... and that is against the rules.


I'll have to disagree with you there, Letum. Could someone use this technique to level up multiple characters for others? Probably.

If they were investigated would we just go "oh they are multiboxing, they are Ok."? Absolutely not. We investigate each botting/powerleveling report we receive fully and believe it or not we actually do look at the simple stuff like account information. Not to mention we look at a great deal of other information in our investigations.

There are a good many legitimate users who actually do own multiple accounts. Why? No idea, I have two myself and barely look at the other account but to each their own. Just because they are using a multiboxing technique does not mean they are powerleveling/sharing or engaging in any other nefarious deed.

If you believe someone is violating our Terms of Use, report it and it will be investigated.

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  • 18. Re: Bots in BG   12/03/2007 10:17:31 PM PST
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Im sorry but that isn't accurate, if Blizz would investigate instead of assuming they could find a rule break in there.

That is a paid service, the person running those characters was paid to collect HPs for the owners of those Characters. I bet if Blizz investigated they would find all characters to have different payment info, different emails, different info all togother, so if one person is boxing those Characters, its account sharing... and that is against the rules.


Nice assumption, likely incorrect. That player is not the only person who does it, there is a guy who does the same thing with a priest and 4 mages. Just because you don't/can't do it and because you're unhappy with it doesn't mean they are cheating.

You can come up with any of a number of way to try to claim the accounts are in violation of the TOU/EULA, but that won't make them in violation. I have to agree with the previous poster who recommended utilizing fear or some other CC to throw off their coordination.

While they can output a ton of DPS really quick on a single target, they cannot deal with multiple people all at once. Try working as a team and see what happens.

EDIT: Curses, Vrak is faster then me. I too have 2 accounts and often utilize this character to level my alts on the other one. Finding groups isn't always easy, but with a 70 pally I can run myself through most instances that my characters need to get into now.

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  • 19. Re: Bots in BG   12/05/2007 02:02:46 PM PST
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We do not prevent people from owning multiple accounts, nor playing those accounts simultaneously as long as they abide by our Terms of Use and EULA.

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/legal/

Multiply Boxing while not common, has been done in many MMO's, and as long as you steer clear of using Third Party Programs to automate the game play it is a perfectly legitimate practice.

Exploitation Policy
http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?articleId=20224


The conditions you state here are mutually exclusive. It requires third party software, or firmware on hardware, to achieve these results. Therefore, it is illegal by nature.

Please see: https://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=3268468562&sid=1&pageNo=1 for more information as to why.

I question the validity of deleting bots, yet not taking action against these kind of exploits.

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