Right at the end of the video Tigole starts answering questions on the ZA patch and badge loot.

"We also want to throw a ton more items on the heroic badge vendor ... to flesh out off-specs like Moonkin Druids and Retribution Paladins."

http://wow.curse.com/videos/details/541/


I was really looking forward to that loot, but now there isn't any?


Moonkins got their loot, and they already have at least some items in Kara and Gruul.


There is only single solitary piece of Ret loot in the entire raid dungeon loot tables. A belt in BT.


The new warrior gear on the badge vendor is beyond horrible for a Ret paladin. Zero crit, way too much hit rating, half-useful armor penetration, and that's before even touching on the fact it has zero intellect, spell damage or mana/5.


Everyone else gets at least some loot optimized to their spec. I'd at least like something for my boot / belt / bracer slots. Kthnx.

Thats kinda like the enhancement gear in the ZA loot tables. We got 2 fist weapons, thats it. Even then its probably going to go to a rogue or a fury warrior before the shaman. Everything else is hunter gear and no way better then any arena gear. Its sad that the spec I chose for helping out a raid with buffs, doesn't get anything out of the raids loots and has to pvp to be better.

---

Q u o t e:

There is only single solitary piece of Ret loot in the entire raid dungeon loot tables. A belt in BT.

---

Well there's that awful 2H mace off Maulgar, but I agree with you for the most part.

http://www.wowhead.com/?items=4.4&filter=qu=4;minrl=70;cr=20:23:118;crs=1:1:2;crv=0:0:0


Sum total of all epic Ret gear currently available (outside of class sets, which only cover 5 slots).


Yes. That's all of it. All two of it.

if you dont want to pvp for gear for your spec...just raid and get the tokens

and if anyone is to lazy to take a look at loot tables for non-tier gear; here's the break down:

DPSspecced-Mage/lock
MM-Hunter (most gear has intel on it so it's best for MM for max dps)
prot-warrior
prot-paladin (only because prot warrior and prot paladin can both wear plate)
com-rogue
feral-druid (only because rogues and druids both wear leather)
resto-sham
holy-paladin


and that's about it...dont fall into any of these and you're going to be gimped

"MM-Hunter (most gear has intel on it so it's best for MM for max dps) "

Man, I wish BM spec didn't use any mana.

MM is terrible for DPS anyways.

---

Q u o t e:

"MM-Hunter (most gear has intel on it so it's best for MM for max dps) "

Man, I wish BM spec didn't use any mana.

MM is terrible for DPS anyways.

---

shouldda said (max-sustained dps); not to mention that because a BM doesn't really need aspect of hawk; so they can use apsect of viper and not lose a ton of dps


*besides: we all know survival is the un-song DPS specc >_> <_< >_<

This is BS. Not only did Blizzard use Ret paladins as the example of who they were trying to fill itemization gaps for with the ZA loot, but we're now the only off-spec that didn't even get a single piece of armor, while other specs like Elemental Shamans and Moonkin druids got full gear sets.


This is worse than the Resilience fiasco. WTF Blizzard.

/bump
And I will keep bumping it to the top til we get an answer, this gets deleted, or the sky falls.

/bump again

You aren't the only one with a lack of gear problem. There is no Elemental shaman gear in ZA.. Sure there is resto, but I'm not resto.

In Kara there were a couple of items, plus the T4, but not enough. I did craft gear myself, which is pretty good.

(And yes, I realize I could wear cloth, but I prefer mail :P)

---

Q u o t e:
You aren't the only one with a lack of gear problem. There is no Elemental shaman gear in ZA.. Sure there is resto, but I'm not resto.

In Kara there were a couple of items, plus the T4, but not enough. I did craft gear myself, which is pretty good.

(And yes, I realize I could wear cloth, but I prefer mail :P)

---

No problem I will advocate for you too :) Fairness to all specs. Comment Bliz :P

enh shaman also need their str mail.

---

Q u o t e:
enh shaman also need their str mail.

---

Just curious, why do Enh shaman need STR instead of AP? Is Kings the only reason?

get teir loot mixed with warrior loot. season 3, belt/boot/bracer and don't complain

cute logging out with all your cooldowns and trinket to make you look stronger

---

Q u o t e:



Just curious, why do Enh shaman need STR instead of AP? Is Kings the only reason?

---

mostly, and i guess the +str will keep away all but the most retarded hunters

---

Q u o t e:

get teir loot mixed with warrior loot. season 3, belt/boot/bracer and don't complain

cute logging out with all your cooldowns and trinket to make you look stronger

---

BLB + AW is a public service I perform for the good people of Outlands every 3 minutes, regardless of weather, location or login conditions.

It's all about the hot wings.