Level 70 will likely be attainable by non-expansion users. Also, I'm willing to bet jewel-crafting will be avaliable as well, as long as you don't have to train it in Outland. Remeber, Blizzard has stated more than once that there will be many aspects of the game that will be avaliable to those that opt to not purchase Burning Crusade.

How the hell are a bunch of level 60's supposed to clear Molten Core when the cap is lowered to 25-man?

Here we go. Proof as clearly posted by Eyonix that you will need the burning crusade expansion in order to level from 60-70

http://news.thottbot.com/index.php?authors=2618&search=Burning+Crusade+expansion+installed+in+order+to+level+from+60+to+70

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You will need the Burning Crusade expansion installed in order to level from 60 to 70. Tseric has already corrected his statement and removed the erroneous information. We're sorry for the confusion.

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Level 60 Rogue -Beta PvP          Level 60 Mage -Destromath

Level 60 Warrior -Moonrunner      Level 60 Mage -Duskwood

Level 60 Druid -Turalyon          Level 52 Priest -Gnomeregan

that would be funny as hell if blizz let players level to 70 without giving them access to the outlands... they'd have to grind the whole thing on green mobs :D

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Level 70 will likely be attainable by non-expansion users. Also, I'm willing to bet jewel-crafting will be avaliable as well, as long as you don't have to train it in Outland. Remeber, Blizzard has stated more than once that there will be many aspects of the game that will be avaliable to those that opt to not purchase Burning Crusade.

How the hell are a bunch of level 60's supposed to clear Molten Core when the cap is lowered to 25-man?

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The cap for 40 man raids isn't going to be changed. Just the new raids will be capped at 25.]

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Here we go. Proof as clearly posted by Eyonix that you will need the burning crusade expansion in order to level from 60-70

http://news.thottbot.com/index.php?authors=2618&search=Burning+Crusade+expansion+installed+in+order+to+level+from+60+to+70

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This does not prove anything, except that Blizzard employees are often guilty of providing conflicting info. Until the expansion is released, nothing is certain. It is unlikely Blizzard will hard code the level cap post expansion. It would make patches for expansion purchasers and non-buyers problematic, I imagine. I do not see Blizzard putting out 2 patches every time.

It is far more likely that the cap is lifted for EVERYONE, but without new content and the higher level mobs in Outland, players will not encounter anything past level 63, and so gaining enough experience to progress past level 65-66 without the expansion will be tremendously difficult, perhaps impossible.

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This does not prove anything, except that Blizzard employees are often guilty of providing conflicting info. Until the expansion is released, nothing is certain. It is unlikely Blizzard will hard code the level cap post expansion. It would make patches for expansion purchasers and non-buyers problematic, I imagine. I do not see Blizzard putting out 2 patches every time.

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Why would they need 2 different patches if the level caps were different?

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This does not prove anything, except that Blizzard employees are often guilty of providing conflicting info. Until the expansion is released, nothing is certain. It is unlikely Blizzard will hard code the level cap post expansion. It would make patches for expansion purchasers and non-buyers problematic, I imagine. I do not see Blizzard putting out 2 patches every time.

It is far more likely that the cap is lifted for EVERYONE, but without new content and the higher level mobs in Outland, players will not encounter anything past level 63, and so gaining enough experience to progress past level 65-66 without the expansion will be tremendously difficult, perhaps impossible.

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Actually, Blizzard said that they are going to put out 2 patches every update- one for peopple with the expansion, and one for people without it, if that makes any difference.

Unfortunately, I don't have a link to the information :P

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This does not prove anything, except that Blizzard employees are often guilty of providing conflicting info. Until the expansion is released, nothing is certain. It is unlikely Blizzard will hard code the level cap post expansion. It would make patches for expansion purchasers and non-buyers problematic, I imagine. I do not see Blizzard putting out 2 patches every time.

It is far more likely that the cap is lifted for EVERYONE, but without new content and the higher level mobs in Outland, players will not encounter anything past level 63, and so gaining enough experience to progress past level 65-66 without the expansion will be tremendously difficult, perhaps impossible.

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I do not agree. I think "You will need the Burning Crusade expansion installed in order to level from 60 to 70. Tseric has already corrected his statement and removed the erroneous information. We're sorry for the confusion" is a fairly clear and straight forward statement and it is a stance they have maintained until this recent article went out.

As for patching, if you do not have the expansion you will still be downloading patches with expansion fixes, those fixes just wont apply to you. You already download patches with fixes to high level dungeons you may never enter especially if you are not attuned for those dungeons. Consider having an expansion cd-key "attunement" and you then have the same circumstances as current patches.

Believing that you will be able to level to 70 without the expansion is just foolish optimisim. It is far more likely that the cap will ONLY BE FOR EXPANSION BUYERS, since the ability to level to 70 is being advertised as one of the major features of the purchased product. Really, you are dealing with a company that is in the business of making money, why would you expect them to give you something for free.

Level 60 Rogue -Beta PvP          Level 60 Mage -Destromath

Level 60 Warrior -Moonrunner      Level 60 Mage -Duskwood

Level 60 Druid -Turalyon          Level 52 Priest -Gnomeregan

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From http://www.bit-tech.net/gaming/2006/09/19/Burning_Crusade_Preview/3.html

Is this for real?

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No, it is not. It was real maybe a year ago, but they changed their minds.

Accordign to blue, you can gain XP without the xpack, but it'll be impractical to actually level much past the mid-60s on the content already in the game. (Which suggests they're changing the XP system so that you won't gain XP from level 63 mobs at level 69.)

offical now eh

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The statement in the article is in error. Players will in fact still need to purchase the expansion in order to level to 70.

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Lies

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Lies

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Grow up

Level 60 Rogue -Beta PvP          Level 60 Mage -Destromath

Level 60 Warrior -Moonrunner      Level 60 Mage -Duskwood

Level 60 Druid -Turalyon          Level 52 Priest -Gnomeregan

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they have said repeataly that you can level to 70 WITHOUT the expansion but it would be defficult because you can't get to outlands so teh higest world mob in the old world (for grinding anyways) would be lvl 60-61.

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No. They have not said that. They said you can level to 70 without leaving Azeroth. They have never said you could level to 70 without the expansion. This article is the first time it has ever been mentioned. In the past, the CMs have been very adamant about leveling to 70 requiring the expansion.

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So you are making the same mistakes other MMOG companies have made. I'll never buy an expansion on my third account. It'll be fun watching Blizzard handle paying customers who can't use 90% of the game in two years.

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Do you really think anyone playing in two years wont have the expansion?

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So you are making the same mistakes other MMOG companies have made. I'll never buy an expansion on my third account. It'll be fun watching Blizzard handle paying customers who can't use 90% of the game in two years.

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They are still a business smartass. Would you like them to give away an entire continent of stuff for free? Biggest Patch Ever, it would be awesome downloading 6gigs wouldnt it?

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The statement in the article is in error. Players will in fact still need to purchase the expansion in order to level to 70.

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Could you possibly clarify that a bit more? Is it just impossible to go all the way to 70 because of a lack of exp-giving mobs, or will non-expansion players be unable to level past 60 at all?