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Cormag

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Kilrogg

0. Is model changing against the ToS? 09/26/2006 06:02:39 PM PDT

And what i mean by that is making so say my undead mage looks like a gnome mage
(i don't want that to happen just using it as an example) i have heard on other WoW forums that this is against the ToS and other ones saying it is legal...im not going to do this because i don't want to get banned...but could i get a blue response please?

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Marroc

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Twisting Nether

1. Re: Is model changing against the ToS? 09/26/2006 06:03:43 PM PDT

Yes it is.... as of patch 1.11 it is also no longer possible.

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Deityn

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2. Re: Is model changing against the ToS? 09/26/2006 06:03:54 PM PDT

It's hard to say.

It is technically tampering with the files, but it isn't hurting anyone...

EDIT: Indeed, it's also impossible now.

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Cormag

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Kilrogg

3. Re: Is model changing against the ToS? 09/26/2006 06:05:20 PM PDT

Well right now my friends model is a BE male (instead of a human male) so i guess its still possible O.o (im looking at it now)

Setdip

Mannoroth

4. Re: Is model changing against the ToS? 09/26/2006 06:05:43 PM PDT

This is sill possible and there are lots of people doing it. It's also aginst the rules.

Shadofall

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5. Re: Is model changing against the ToS? 09/26/2006 06:06:13 PM PDT

its a violation of the TOS/EULA theres a thread on the ui forum with links to blue post on it

as of 1.11 it is much harder to do

and warden can flag your account for action to be taken aginst it if it detects that you have brute forced changed the files wich it can check for.

or rather blizzard can easily make warden do this and mostlikely will in the near future

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Cormag

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Kilrogg

6. Re: Is model changing against the ToS? 09/26/2006 06:07:35 PM PDT

Now to tell those people on the gameFAQ forums that it is against the ToS thanks guys =)

Shirokaze

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Firetree

7. Re: Is model changing against the ToS? 09/26/2006 06:19:59 PM PDT

Q u o t e:
its a violation of the TOS/EULA theres a thread on the ui forum with links to blue post on it

as of 1.11 it is much harder to do

and warden can flag your account for action to be taken aginst it if it detects that you have brute forced changed the files wich it can check for.

or rather blizzard can easily make warden do this and mostlikely will in the near future

Before, so far as I'm aware, you just had the models in an appropriately named folder matching the tree structure of the MPQ file. This is not brute force at all, WoW actively loads them outside their own MPQs.

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Duskwood

8. Re: Is model changing against the ToS? 09/26/2006 06:22:23 PM PDT

Q u o t e:

Before, so far as I'm aware, you just had the models in an appropriately named folder matching the tree structure of the MPQ file. This is not brute force at all, WoW actively loads them outside their own MPQs.

Makes development easier is why =]

That said, there should be a way for Blue to turn off this functionality come production time.

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9. Re: Is model changing against the ToS? 09/26/2006 06:24:13 PM PDT

Q u o t e:

Before, so far as I'm aware, you just had the models in an appropriately named folder matching the tree structure of the MPQ file. This is not brute force at all, WoW actively loads them outside their own MPQs.

yes thats true. but thats no longer the case now. the game will not allow the override

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Lachonz

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10. Re: Is model changing against the ToS? 09/26/2006 07:25:39 PM PDT

Q u o t e:
Is model changing against the ToS?

Yes it is. No matter what someone tells you here, it is.

Q u o t e:
as of patch 1.11 it is also no longer possible.

Um, yes it is, my freind changes alot of his stuff.

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Cormag

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11. Re: Is model changing against the ToS? 09/28/2006 01:33:53 PM PDT

Thanks for all the replys ^_^

Cormag

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Kilrogg

12. Re: Is model changing against the ToS? 09/29/2006 02:25:12 PM PDT

well someone i know got an Email from a GM
From: <donotreply@blizzard.com>
To: <My email>
Subject: Blizzard Entertainment - World of Warcraft
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 07:28:35 -0700

Greetings Justin,

Thank you for contacting the World of Warcraft Game Master Department.

Petition: I was wondering if i could get banned for editing my ingame models, or if i could get banned for having a speech2.mpq file in my data folder, nothing that edits gameplay, just changes my looks, is this acceptable?

Answer: While this is not a violation of our policies (there are mods that do this, for example), it's something I'd highly recommend against because of the potential to destroy or corrupt needed files.

Should you require further assistance, please submit another help request the next time you are online. We hope you continue to enjoy your experience in World of Warcraft!

For any game play questions, please refer to our site at http://www.blizzard.com/support/wowgm/

*** Please do not respond to this email as all conversations on this matter would be best handled online. ***

Regards,
Game Master Zollrendir
World of Warcraft
Blizzard Entertainment
www.worldofwarcraft.com

so i guess it Isn't against the ToS.im sooo confused..could i PLEASE get a Blue response

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Faizaniel

Dragonblight

13. Re: Is model changing against the ToS? 09/29/2006 02:30:45 PM PDT

Q u o t e:
well someone i know got an Email from a GM
From: <donotreply@blizzard.com>
To: <My email>
Subject: Blizzard Entertainment - World of Warcraft
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 07:28:35 -0700

Greetings Justin,

Thank you for contacting the World of Warcraft Game Master Department.

Petition: I was wondering if i could get banned for editing my ingame models, or if i could get banned for having a speech2.mpq file in my data folder, nothing that edits gameplay, just changes my looks, is this acceptable?

Answer: While this is not a violation of our policies (there are mods that do this, for example), it's something I'd highly recommend against because of the potential to destroy or corrupt needed files.

Should you require further assistance, please submit another help request the next time you are online. We hope you continue to enjoy your experience in World of Warcraft!

For any game play questions, please refer to our site at http://www.blizzard.com/support/wowgm/

*** Please do not respond to this email as all conversations on this matter would be best handled online. ***

Regards,
Game Master Zollrendir
World of Warcraft
Blizzard Entertainment
www.worldofwarcraft.com

so i guess it Isn't against the ToS.im sooo confused..could i PLEASE get a Blue responce

While I don't make a habit of contradicting GMs, I'm going to say that this isn't a good response here, for two reasons:
1) Model swapping is against the terms of use, is not the same thing as a UI mod, and can be used to do some very exploitative things.
2) Speech2.mpq is involved in the GM Island hack that's been making the rounds recently. (Yes, Batta, feel free to delete that. :p )
Some clarification in a different color would be nice here, though. :)

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Deadlykris

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Doomhammer

14. Re: Is model changing against the ToS? 09/29/2006 02:31:14 PM PDT

Q u o t e:
well someone i know got an Email from a GM
From: <donotreply@blizzard.com>
To: <My email>
Subject: Blizzard Entertainment - World of Warcraft
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2006 07:28:35 -0700

Greetings Justin,

Thank you for contacting the World of Warcraft Game Master Department.

Petition: I was wondering if i could get banned for editing my ingame models, or if i could get banned for having a speech2.mpq file in my data folder, nothing that edits gameplay, just changes my looks, is this acceptable?

Answer: While this is not a violation of our policies (there are mods that do this, for example), it's something I'd highly recommend against because of the potential to destroy or corrupt needed files.

Should you require further assistance, please submit another help request the next time you are online. We hope you continue to enjoy your experience in World of Warcraft!

For any game play questions, please refer to our site at http://www.blizzard.com/support/wowgm/

*** Please do not respond to this email as all conversations on this matter would be best handled online. ***

Regards,
Game Master Zollrendir
World of Warcraft
Blizzard Entertainment
www.worldofwarcraft.com

so i guess it Isn't against the ToS.im sooo confused..could i PLEASE get a Blue response

Game Master Zollrendir is mistaken. It is indeed against the Terms of Service and/or the EULA.

EDIT: Faizaniel, you might have some issues regarding contradicting GMs, however, I've been doing it since before I got MVP and I'll be damned if the green text makes me stop. :-D

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Faizaniel

Dragonblight

15. Re: Is model changing against the ToS? 09/29/2006 02:37:48 PM PDT

Q u o t e:

Game Master Zollrendir is mistaken. It is indeed against the Terms of Service and/or the EULA.

EDIT: Faizaniel, you might have some issues regarding contradicting GMs, however, I've been doing it since before I got MVP and I'll be damned if the green text makes me stop. :-D

Ha, and I'm pretty sure my MVP coordinator is out of town at the moment too.... time to party! ;)

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Cormag

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Kilrogg

16. Re: Is model changing against the ToS? 09/29/2006 02:44:29 PM PDT

Thaknks you SOOO much for the replies guys, i was about to change my char model =X

EDIT: why does it say im level 38 i have been level 42 for a week X_____X

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Kaone

Blizzard Poster

17. Re: Is model changing against the ToS? 09/29/2006 02:54:00 PM PDT

Q u o t e:
well someone i know got an Email from a GM

....

so i guess it Isn't against the ToS.im sooo confused..could i PLEASE get a Blue response

Hello Cormag,

Changing the in-game models/art or changing the sound files is indeed against the Terms of Use. This can be found at the following location:

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/legal/termsofuse.html

2. Limitations on Your Use of World of Warcraft.

Your license to use World of Warcraft is limited by this Terms of Use and the World of Warcraft End User License Agreement which you were required to accept when you installed World of Warcraft. Limitations on your right to use World of Warcraft may include, but not necessarily be limited to, the following:

Such prohibited methods may include

reverse engineering, modifying World of Warcraft, adding components to World of Warcraft

You agree that you will not (i) modify or cause to be modified any files that are a part of a World of Warcraft installation

I am sorry that the answer you received was inadequate with this matter. The Game Master appears to believe you were referring to Interface modifications rather than to the client itself. Changing or editing any of the World of Warcraft files themselves is not permitted.

I hope this answer clarifies it for you.

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Doomhammer

18. Re: Is model changing against the ToS? 09/29/2006 02:58:18 PM PDT

Q u o t e:
EDIT: why does it say im level 38 i have been level 42 for a week X_____X

Try re-selecting your forum character. See the link for that purpose in the upper right corner of the page.

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Cormag

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Kilrogg

19. Re: Is model changing against the ToS? 09/29/2006 03:01:51 PM PDT

Nope, just tried it multiple times and it still stays 38 X_X

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