As far as i know Preist and Paladins get their holy powers from teh same source so i don't know. Besides i always thought that any healing spells would damage undead. At least its that way in teh WC series. So how does an undead preist heal theirselves?

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Blood Elves are not ones that attune themselves to the world in a harmonic sense.

There is not much leeway for a race to indulge in spiritual serenity when they are wracked with a severe addiction to the arcane. The Blood Elves do not soothe and coax power and magic from a natural setting, they tend to rip it forcefully from the environment, finding scientific methods to tap into magical currents.

Blood Elves have never been deeply invested in their environment as a mother. They treat the environment as a resource or a tool for further power.

That is why they aren't shaman.

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That was one of the better blue replies I've seen.

Also, to the person complaining about them being Paladins, the case is different, if you read the lore. In order to use the elements of nature, you have to be attuned with it and draw it out more naturally and slowly.

Though, I could picture the high elves who continue to meditate to fight their addiction finding use of the natural elements again, but that would kinda just make them born-again night elves, and put them at odds with the blood elves who embrace their highborne heritage.

In the case of the Blood Knights, they aren't really the same kind of paladins as the alliance has. They basically captured a Naaru and are using it like... a... "Lightwell", kinda, to feed themselves with the energy of the Holy Light the same way they used the Sunwell to feed on arcane energy.

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Blood Elves are not ones that attune themselves to the world in a harmonic sense.

There is not much leeway for a race to indulge in spiritual serenity when they are wracked with a severe addiction to the arcane. The Blood Elves do not soothe and coax power and magic from a natural setting, they tend to rip it forcefully from the environment, finding scientific methods to tap into magical currents.

Blood Elves have never been deeply invested in their environment as a mother. They treat the environment as a resource or a tool for further power.

That is why they aren't shaman.

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Eh nice try dude. So the trolls and orcs soothe and coax power from a natural setting? Hogwash.

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Hello Blizzard, I really want a explanation on why you are giving the new Aillance race both Shaman and Paladin and not the Blood Elves. Can you please explain this and also tell my why you have decided this.
Thank You.

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Cause, the Blood Elves don't want no shamans. They realize the phat magical lewts are better gotten from PvE not PvP. That's why they have hunters, so they can bring home phat magical lewts. And they had to steal the light so they can have pallys cause they aint got no warriors to tank for them. Little did they know...

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Blood elves are able to use Paladins...

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If that's your answer as to why blood elves cannot be shaman, then please look at the Draenei who can be BOTH.

This is exactly why:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v220/blondeunknown/1156904445682.jpg

Blood elves can only be super saiyan level 4.6 ozaaru with hyper final flash level 10.

hmmm this thread would make more sense if you asked the question on why cant blood elfs be warriors and dranei can

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Blood Elves are not ones that attune themselves to the world in a harmonic sense.

There is not much leeway for a race to indulge in spiritual serenity when they are wracked with a severe addiction to the arcane. The Blood Elves do not soothe and coax power and magic from a natural setting, they tend to rip it forcefully from the environment, finding scientific methods to tap into magical currents.

Blood Elves have never been deeply invested in their environment as a mother. They treat the environment as a resource or a tool for further power.

That is why they aren't shaman.

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I find this post ironic.

Yes, they are all valid reasonings why Blood Elves cannot be Shamans. You have also managed to explain why they should not be hunters for pretty much the exact same reasons. Let me quote you the Hunter class description :

"Hunters are deadly marksmen, capable of bringing their enemies down from a distance with bows or rifles. Skilled survivalists, they can track enemies or lay traps to damage and entrap their foes. Hunters also possess a primal connection to the beasts of Azeroth, capable of taming and training them to keep as loyal guardians. Wearing light to medium armor, hunters can also dual wield weapons in combat, fighting beside their pets in battle.
The Hunter is a vicious damage dealer. With their ability to pull extremely well and hit monsters hard from far away, they certainly help take down monsters more quickly. Their pets add to the damage count and can aid somewhat in managing monster aggro. The variety of traps allows the Hunter to control crowds to an extent, as well. The combination of their extreme range, decent damage, and trap capability, Hunters are the perfect pullers for any group."

The Key sentance has been italiscized for ease of reference. Bonus points for anyone that can pick out the other various fallacies in the hunter class description.

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This is exactly why:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v220/blondeunknown/1156904445682.jpg

Blood elves can only be super saiyan level 4.6 ozaaru with hyper final flash level 10.

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OMFG! This is so full of win!
I just laughed til I cried.

One day , the leader of the Blood Elves went into deep thinking, then said :

"ON THIS DAY, NO MORE SWORDS FOR YOU, WE ONLY WANT MAGICS, K? WHAT THE HELL IS THAT SHINY BUBBLE , SOMEONE CAPTURE THAT THING."

That's when paladins were born.

it's pretty simple, there are already 3 horde races that can be shamans. but only two alliance races that can be paladins.

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LMAO...You sounded like a heroine addicted retard in your Topic Name, and then you start off with a classy introduction

..."Hello Blizzard, *straightens his tie*"


AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAH

Switchfoot laughs at your miserable attempt to give the Blood Elves shamans as it does not fit with the lore.

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I am not sure if this was pointed out yet, but did you notice that "Edited by Blizzard" sign onthe bottom.

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Beacause, currently, there are three horde races and two alliance that have avalibility to shaman and paladin classes respectfully.

Shaman
Troll
Orc
Tauren

Paladin
Human
Dwarf

To compinsate for the inbalance, draenei are allowed paladin and shaman, while blood elves get just paladins.

Exp: Shaman
Troll
Orc
Tauren
(*)Draenei

Exp: Paladin
Human
Dwarf
(*)Draenei
(*)Blood Elves

By doing this, Blizzard has created a balance in the classes-per-faction issue.

- - Meh<3 (Edited for sentance structure D=)

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Once again, some one may have pointed this out, but........

Fixed

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Once again, some one may have pointed this out, but........

Fixed

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You all forgot warlocks *shakes tiny little fist*
Horde will have 3 races for warlocks both of which are better then the 2 alliance races for warlock class.

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But they can be hunters?

I think you guys should stop trying to explain lore at this point and just answer everything with "for balance reasons".

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Dude, a Hunter shoots things with a bow/gun and knows how to control some animals. That's not the same as someone who communes with the very elements to command magical powers.

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But ofcourse they can take up their swords and become righteous warriors and defenders of justice.

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Yes, I'm sure that the Blood Elves really want Paladin powers so they can defend truth, justice, and the Stormwind way. Blood Elf Paladins are not going to be righteous champions like their Alliance counterparts. They're going to be magic-addicted nutbars with semi-sociopathic behavior.

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why dont they just steal the shamanistic ways from the elementals and rip it away frm them?

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Because an element isn't some kind of creature you can capture and dissect in a lab, like they're doing to the Naaru. The closest you could get would be elementals, but they're just embodiments of the elements, not the elements themselves. It's not the same thing.

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Interesting...sure...we get that lore things make BE shammies a dumb idea, but are we forgetting how Lore just got screwed up from the beginning of this spin off from the real WC storyline and just painted the gap with more Lore changes?

Allright...Tseric said it...Blood Elves are not "connected" to nature, but how come Night Elves are?

100% BS. If it requires you to be attuned with "nature" to be entitled as a shaman, then Night Elves should have them as well.

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First of all, the lore hasn't been screwed up nearly to the extent you claim. Secondly, what does Blood Elves not being attuned to nature have to do with Night Elves? The two races split off from each other something like 10000 years ago. Of course they've become radically different by now. It would be incredibly unrealistic and stupid if they weren't. And you're making an illogical argument here. Shamans require the person in question to have some attunement to the world around them (specifically to the elements and the spirits of the land). That does not mean, however, that everyone who has something like this is automatically a Shaman. Night Elves, in particular, seem to have no interest whatsoever in elements or spirits. They simply care about nature, in the sense of growing, living things and the balance between different creatures in the world. This is not the same as a Shaman.

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You all forgot warlocks *shakes tiny little fist*
Horde will have 3 races for warlocks both of which are better then the 2 alliance races for warlock class.

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I am sorry, did Warlocks belong in there? I thought that post was only meant to point out Shamans and Paladins.

You are stupid and you obviously have no respect for warcraft lore. Blood elves are ARCANE beings, tied to magic, NOT elemental or nature magic. Learn a little bit about the game you play before you make a retarded thread.

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Yeah... and why don't TAUREN is ROGUES?

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Sorry, just wanted to repeat this for everyone. Rofl. What does this alien-grammar mean?

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Because an element isn't some kind of creature you can capture and dissect in a lab, like they're doing to the Naaru. The closest you could get would be elementals, but they're just embodiments of the elements, not the elements themselves. It's not the same thing.

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They're not dissecting the Naaru in a lab, they're drawing magic from it, like how the highborne in Dire Maul are drawing magic from the demon Immol'thar.

If you can capture, contain, and draw magic from a demon, it's a pretty safe bet you can do the same with an elemental.

I usually refrain from posts like these...but...

English. Learn. Now. Logic, too, plz.


Thank you.