Thought about what guilds to watch for come expansion in BC’s most anticipated Arena PvP System? Or ever wonder what the most talented and skilled group of players who excel at both ends of the game, through PvP and PvE?

Sure, there's plenty of "PvP" guilds(cp farming groups mostly), however there's a handful of PvE to PvP guilds around that excel at both ends of the game. These guilds will give you a challenge at any end of the PvP spectrum, whether it's in the Battlegrounds of Arathi Basin and Warsong Gluch or in the open pvp fields of outdoor PvP.

If you feel your group of players need a challenge, look for these guilds and challenge them via test realm - hopefully you'll experience a new fond for WoW's PvP system.

1) T A O (H) - Tichondrius / Battlegroup 9 - www.clantao.net
- TAO are the kings of Warsong Gulch, noone matches their intensity and knowledge of the game - they're pvping machines. Known for having the most rank 14s in a single guild(30?+), they play this game for PvP, they PvE to PvP. Think your team is good at the gulch? Challenge TAO and feel the pain.
Naxx Progress: Up to Gluth / Heigan / Gothik

2) Notorious (A) - Tichondrius / Battlegroup 9 - www.notorious-guild.com
- Notorious are TAO's counterparts, with every great adversary there was always a great opponant. These guys are on par with TAO in the gulch and in the open pvp they dominate faces with style. There isn’t a guild in the US that has a stronger PvP base then Notorious does. Notorious and TAO, among the many competitive guilds on the Tichondrius server have led this server to be the #1 PvP server of NA servers - Along with making Battlegroup9 the prime PvP battlegroup.
Naxx Progress: Up to Four Horsemen

3) Nurfed (H) - Blackrock / Battlegroup 9 - www.nurfed.com
- Known for their UI and early PvE progression, what they aren't known as well for is their supremacy in open pvp. The originators of WoW Roaming PvP(made popular by Rovell of Ret and Vhell of Nurfed) Nurfed's pvp prowlness is their ability to kill. They play BGs well, look no further for a more dominating horde slaughterhouse.
Naxx Progress: Up to Thaddius / Loatheb / Gothik

4) Vicious Cycle (A) - Kil'Jaedin / Battlegroup 9 - www.teamvc.us
- Led originally by the legendary Stewball, never known was a more hardcore guild bent on annihilating their peers and opponents through passion and will then VC. Originally from the Frostmane server, early naxx progress gave them some PvE fame, however their true roots lie in their PvP desires. They moved battlegroup clusters from 1 to 9 purposely to meet the challenges that await in BG9, a large commitment just for some good PvP.
Naxx Progress: Up to Four Horsemen / Loatheb

5) Relentless (A) - Dethecus / Battlegroup 7 - r.i.p.
- Originally from the Archimonde server, along with Nurfed, this guild was built on appetite for destruction – internally and also in the pvp fields. This guild was made by the best of Archimonde, through egos and alike, they maintained a strong pvp presence – always Nurfed’s counterparts and sparring partners, you’ll see the best fights between these two guilds from Vhell’s PvP videos. Their troubles through naxx were their demise and ended a pvp powerhouse.
Naxx Progress: Ended on Loatheb / Thaddius

6) Eminence (A) - Blackrock / Battlegroup 9 - www.eminencewow.net
- Being a raiding powerhouse guild is one thing, excelling in the PvP fields is another. Eminence does good at both, always consistantly looking for more PvP and maintaining a solid naxx progression that's held them as the 4th best progressed guild in the US. These guys always looking for a challenge and hunger for more blood, as one of the most geared guilds in the world you'd think they'd give a new meaning to the phase: gear does equal skill.
Naxx Progress: Up to Kel’Thuzad

7) Ret (A) – Mal’Ganis / Battlegroup 5 – www.retributionguild.net
- An original DAoC guild, Ret has maintained their PvP roots through every game they’ve played, with maintaining strife to be the best in every aspect – PvE and PvP wise. Originally from the Arthas’ server, known to be the “PvP powerhouse server” – plenty of guilds from both factions maintained this server as a leading PvP model, only rivaled by Tichondrius, however due to server issues most of Arthas transferred to Mal’Ganis. World top kills through every instance in WoW, when Ret focuses on PvP they excel in playing field, dominating in convincing fashion as well. Rovell, known for his roaming pvp videos, leads Ret to the top of the game on whatever they focus on.
Naxx Progress: Up to Kel’Thuzad

8) Aurora (H) – Mal’Ganis / Battlegroup 5 - www.aurora-guild.com
- As it’s been said, with every great contender there’s always been a great opponent. Competition drives Aurora, they fuel on the need to succeed. Aurora, formally of Arthas, now of Mal’Ganis, are Ret’s foremost rivals from end to end. Whether it was out in battlegrounds, out in the open PvP and especially fighting for server firsts in raiding instances - both these guilds created PvP powerhouses amongst each other, respectable opponents alike. Aurora hits hard, kills fast, uses cross lateral crowd control better then most groups can imagine.
Naxx Progress: Up to Sapphiron

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9) Insomnia (A) – Tichondrius / Battlegroup 9 – www.insomniaguild.org
- Originally the strongest pvp group on Tichondrius, recently hit hard times and their member base holding out for PvP until Burning Crusade. Originally organizing the short lived “wsg-league” during the AQ days, they’ve led Tichon in most of the PvE endeavors, however falling short in Naxx presently due to internal guild issues. Driven by the will to be the best of their peers, insomnia will always be a competitive force on the playing field and anything they focus on.
Naxx Progress: Up to Gothik

10) Grim Vengeance– Tichondrius / Battlegroup 9 - www.grimvengeance.com
- The #2 Horde PvP guild behind TAO in BG9, these guys are always known to play without remorse, maintaining a strong PvP presence in a tense PvP server. Very strong PvP presence in and outside of battlegrounds, expect these guys to gain recognition once the arena system is put into work.
Naxx Progress: Up to Patchwerk

Honorable Mentions:
Overrated (H) – Black Dragonflight / Battlegroup 5
Atrayne (H) – Skullcrusher / Battlegroup 3
Dominion (H) – Mug’thol / Battlegroup 6
The Elite (H) – Blackrock / Battlegroup 9
Ainur (A) – Tichondrius / Battlegroup 9
Insurrection (H) - Tichondrius / Battlegroup 9 (Formally Pretty Pink Pwnies of Deathwing)
Pro Baddies (A) - Mal'Ganis / Battlegroup 5

BEST PVP BATTLEGROUPS:
1) Battlegroup 9
2) Battlegroup 5
3) Battlegroup 7
4) Battlegroup 6
5) Battlegroup 3

BEST PVP SERVERS:
1) Tichondrius
2) Blackrock
3) Mal'Ganis
4) Mug'Thol
5) Dethecus

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Any adjustments, comments or suggestions -- feel free to post! This list was made by some personal speculation, myself and some of my peers felt that we've searched every end of the NA WoW community and found the small playerbase of PvPers who take this aspect of the game seriously - although small now, this community will reign strong in expac.

Edited: In honorable mentions removed Damage Networks (A) and Easy Company (A), for I feel the OP disagrees with these two guilds. Added Ainur (A) - Tichondrius and Pro Baddies (A) - Mal'Ganis in their respective places.

Nice post format. Where did the data come from or is this just your opinion?

Edit: Nevermind I see your last paragraph now.

you can not rank top pve guilds at the top pvp guilds because there is no way to gauge their skill when their gear to so superior to that of all others they would play. so this entire thread is moot. pvp raiding guild is a joke in and of itself.

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4) Vicious Cycle (A) - Kil'Jaedin / Battlegroup 9 - www.teamvc.us
- Led originally by the legendary Stewball, never known was a more hardcore guild bent on annihilating their peers and opponents through gear and will then VC. Originally from the Frostwolf server, early MC progress gave them some PvE fame, however their true roots lie in their PvP desires. They moved battlegroup clusters from 1 to 9 purposely to meet the challenges that await in BG9, a large commitment just for some good PvP.
Naxx Progress: Up to Four Horsemen / Loatheb

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Fixed.

To bad we don't raid anything past ZG/AQ 20 (we did get onyxia once, first try, with only 20 people) and don't qualify for the list, because we are pretty much destroying BG3.

Local D has some ok players, but they aren't a major threat in bg3.

OP is from TAO, a guild given too much credit for doing very little. You're in BG9. Transfer servers and get in a real cluster, k?

Tokens in the Mail - Frostmane Realm.

Look them up.

thx for the shoutout, but i know we're a lot better than some of the guilds mentioned here.

thx for the shoutout but i know we're a lot worse than a lot of the guilds here.

Seriously though, we're 95% PvE specced right now. Aside from having a 8/9 DN Prot tank running flags in WSG, we're way below our potential because of Naxx specs/time.

Lists like this are always pretty dumb.
Can you really gauge how good any battlegroup is, or how good any guild is if they can't face other similarly geared groups?
It isn't exactly hard to roll dudes in PvP sporting Tier 3/Various Naxx epics when they have PvP Rank 10 sets and Heroism most of the time.

Another thing, Most of these guilds have played each other on test.

how are we #3 pvp server but only get an honorable mention. it's those damn hanging chads again! i demand a recount.

Hey guys, I wonder if the OP came from Tich~.

Being Ex-Tich, I'd say two of the Tich nominations have some merit. The others are personal bias.