I am curious to whether or not there are plans for a new BG to be introduced before the next expansion. I think it would be great if we didn't have to wait another year before we see another new battleground.

I don't mean new arena maps either, its not the same. And I don't mean re-releasing AV over and over again as different versions.

I wish they would release that BG in Azashara (sp?).

I also wish they would release a BG with a more epic feel to it where it actually felt like a battle.

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I wish they would release that BG in Azashara (sp?).

I also wish they would release a BG with a more epic feel to it where it actually felt like a battle.

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Agreed, when AV was first released I was so excited, it made me feel like this game was truly worth all the time I spent leveling up. AB and WSG are also a lot of fun but for different reasons, although I never liked them as much as AV. Then EoTS came and I maybe played 20 or so games in there cause, well, its kinda like a lame mix of AB and WSG which we can already play.

I really just can't imagine we won't see another BG before the expansion right? Raiding is okay and all, but BGs are so much better because you can just click in and play, no time commitments, no farming mats, etc.

The problem with adding more BGs is that it spreads the population of people in BGs out, meaning queue times will go up. It's something Blizz is too scared to do.

That's why there are no new BGs announced for WotLK, only an outdoor PvP zone (which will pwn BGs if it's done right, imo).

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The problem with adding more BGs is that it spreads the population of people in BGs out, meaning queue times will go up. It's something Blizz is too scared to do.

That's why there are no new BGs announced for WotLK, only an outdoor PvP zone (which will pwn BGs if it's done right, imo).

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I've heard that argument, but I just don't buy it. They can get more people interested in BGs in many different ways, adding S1 gear already boosted BG attendance by a lot. Also, I don't know how hard it would be to merge some battlegroups together if it was truly a problem, but I'm sure they could do that also.

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The problem with adding more BGs is that it spreads the population of people in BGs out, meaning queue times will go up. It's something Blizz is too scared to do.

That's why there are no new BGs announced for WotLK, only an outdoor PvP zone (which will pwn BGs if it's done right, imo).

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An easy solution is to not have all BG's available at all times. 1 battleground per week could be 'closed', rotating similar to holidays. That way they can add one BG and keep the current level of 'spreading'.

This also forces people to move around between BG's instead of just figuring out best Honor/Hour and grinding.

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I've heard that argument, but I just don't buy it. They can get more people interested in BGs in many different ways, adding S1 gear already boosted BG attendance by a lot. Also, I don't know how hard it would be to merge some battlegroups together if it was truly a problem, but I'm sure they could do that also.

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I agree. More BG options means the people that play BGs for fun, not for farming, will be back in the queues.

noooooooooooooooooo

Oh! oh! make it a snowball fight!

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There are no current plans to release one prior to Wrath of the Lich King. We are focusing on AV improvements for patch 2.3 and also on creating content for Wrath of the Lich King which includes a new battleground and of course the outdoor pvp zone, Lake Wintergrasp.

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You really need to stop with this. I'm a raider, as you can see from the gear, and it is retarded that you release so many raids every year but can't be bothered to make a simple BG map. I've played FPS games with thousands of maps, and guess what, the game didn't collapse. Make several new CTF maps, several AB style capture and hold, a few new big battles like AV, and some hybrids like EOTS. Have people que up for the game type, not the map. Problem solved.

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An easy solution is to not have all BG's available at all times. 1 battleground per week could be 'closed', rotating similar to holidays. That way they can add one BG and keep the current level of 'spreading'.

This also forces people to move around between BG's instead of just figuring out best Honor/Hour and grinding.

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I suggested something kinda like this awhile back and people just flamed me.

Marks of honor should be removed, IMO. During the week (not BG weekend) all BGs would be up and running) During, let's say WSG weekend, all battle masters (other than WSG ones) would tell you something like "The battle for Warsong Gulch is looking desperate right now! Visit <nearby WSG battle master's name> to join the fight. They need all the soldiers they can get right now! Don't worry about <other BG name>. We can handle things there for now untill Warsong Gulch calms down."

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There are no current plans to release one prior to Wrath of the Lich King. We are focusing on AV improvements for patch 2.3 and also on creating content for Wrath of the Lich King which includes a new battleground and of course the outdoor pvp zone, Lake Wintergrasp.

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Can you put in a request for us then? It seems we will have to wait a total of approx 2 years between expansions as well as the release of a new BG? That's a great timeline for expansions imo, but waiting 2 years for a new BG sounds very disappointing.

I would even go for some 20v20 Deathmatch in a wide open space with hiding spots/sniper points etc. It wouldn't even have to have objectives other than first team to 40 kills wins or most kills after 10 min. That might make it a little easier to program.

Edit: Thanks for the reply Neth.

I just want new maps for the existing BGs. =\

Flying mount BG on islands in the sky.

I have absolutely no idea how it would work, but it must happen.

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There are no current plans to release one prior to Wrath of the Lich King. We are focusing on AV improvements for patch 2.3 and also on creating content for Wrath of the Lich King which includes a new battleground and of course the outdoor pvp zone, Lake Wintergrasp.

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That makes me a sad panda. I got sick of raiding a year and a half ago so I only pvp now and it's disappointing that there are CONSTANTLY new raids coming out and there are a total of 4 BGs since when the game was released. I understand why you think it is a concern (queue times) but I really doubt it would be an issue.

I'm already salty enough about you guys forcing me to do heroics to get my cloak. I know you're trying to get us to "do new things" but hasn't it crossed your mind that maybe we've been there, done that and we're sick of it? Honestly, I don't want to farm heroics; I got out of instancing because I was sick of doing the same things over and over with the same static AI (where the only thing that changes is who messes up). I already had to grind to revered for my pvp enchants...what's 60 more badges, right?

I do appriciate you guys moving the new trinkets to be either honor OR badges though, that was a nice gesture.

EDIT: Before anyone makes some snide comment I'll head it off. Yes, I'm forced to get my pvp cloak from the badges; I'm a healer and the +dmg/+heal one won't cut it in high end arena play where you're looking for every advantage.

Will WSG ever get a fix? And by a fix, I mean some sort of time limit that prevents games from going on forever? AV just got it, and it's basically impossible for AB/EOTS to go on for THAT long, yet WSG could potentially last a very long time with little gain. Can't we just get the BG capped at like an hour/45 minutes or something?

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You really need to stop with this. I'm a raider, as you can see from the gear, and it is retarded that you release so many raids every year but can't be bothered to make a simple BG map. I've played FPS games with thousands of maps, and guess what, the game didn't collapse. Make several new CTF maps, several AB style capture and hold, a few new big battles like AV, and some hybirds liek EOTS. Have people que up for the game type, not the map. Problem solved.

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I said something like this on the PTR forum just a few days ago. Best idea for BG's ever.