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  • 20. Re: You're wrong Slouken...(throttling)   10/29/2007 03:15:41 PM PDT
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I had similar issues broadcasting into guild chat last night.

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  • 21. Re: You're wrong Slouken...(throttling)   10/29/2007 03:35:53 PM PDT
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had this happen in a channel with 4 people ( not raiding, no mods ) as well in gchat.

pretty uncool if you ask me.

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  • Lightbringer
  • 22. Re: You're wrong Slouken...(throttling)   10/29/2007 03:43:30 PM PDT
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I am not getting limited in the raid channel, or whispers now. However, I am getting limited in our guild channel.
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  • 23. Re: You're wrong Slouken...(throttling)   10/29/2007 04:02:31 PM PDT
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Private channel was still throttled last night (10/28). I checked and there were 14 people in the channel.
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  • Eldre'Thalas
  • 24. Re: You're wrong Slouken...(throttling)   10/29/2007 04:09:55 PM PDT
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My guess is that a server restart is required to deploy the change, and that we might see it go into effect with tomorrow's maintenance. I'm concerned that Slouken thinks the change should already be live when it clearly isn't, however.
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  • Bloodhoof
  • 25. Re: You're wrong Slouken...(throttling)   10/29/2007 07:37:27 PM PDT
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They're not allowed because we don't want N^2 messages where N approacheth the number of people with AddOns on one side. :)




At most we only have 16 people in the channel at any given time. Like I said, I had tried to change the macros themselves to print out in guild where you said the throttling is disabled, and it still doesn't work.


For an example of what I'm talking about, this macro:


/5 Alibuda heals Kluug
/5 Kitchen heals Pat
/5 Drittz heals Son
/5 Mykka/Phalaq heals Nem
/5 Suiko/Gren heals Gore
/5 Meiaa raid heals
/5 .
/5 When Nem's lock dies, Mykka moves to Pat, Phalaq moves to Gore


I had used for Magtheridon allowed me to just plug in names where I needed them, and it would print it out to the private channel we made. Right now, if I used this macro, only the very first line would get through, and the rest would just give me 7 error messages in my chat window.



Of course, with the limited number of macro space we're given, I'd rather use an addon to do this, but none exist to do this. :(

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  • Stormreaver
  • 26. Re: You're wrong Slouken...(throttling)   10/29/2007 08:02:26 PM PDT
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Slouken, the problem is still not fixed on Stormreaver.
Our guild doesnt even have 25 people, yet chat is alwyas throttled.

Perhaps not all of the servers got the change you intended?
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  • 27. Re: You're wrong Slouken...(throttling)   10/29/2007 08:32:01 PM PDT
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You're right, I was misinformed. Improvements to this are incoming, as servers get restarted.
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  • Bloodhoof
  • 28. Re: You're wrong Slouken...(throttling)   10/29/2007 08:35:19 PM PDT
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Q u o t e:
You're right, I was misinformed. Improvements to this are incoming, as servers get restarted.




Good to hear, thank you. :)
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  • 29. Re: You're wrong Slouken...(throttling)   10/29/2007 09:45:57 PM PDT
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Thanks for the update. Seriously, this was driving me nuts :p.
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  • Thorium Brotherhood
  • 30. Re: You're wrong Slouken...(throttling)   10/30/2007 12:07:53 AM PDT
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Thanks for the update. Seriously, this was driving me nuts :p.

The original post is long dead.. praise be to google cache!
http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:cfwglYrXyUsJ:12.129.242.24/thread.html%3Bjsessionid%3D07855E400922E662B915F01244D0A0BC%3FtopicId%3D443160656

edit: Hot damn, #18 at the end of that URL gets killed by Blizz's forum. I think I just failed at Humor 101.. and/or life.

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  • Kil'jaeden
  • 31. Re: You're wrong Slouken...(throttling)   10/30/2007 05:49:09 AM PDT
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How many people are in this private channel? :)


Having multime messages only work in private channels with 25 people or less doesnt fix anything. Our guild uses a private channel for posting healing assignments and the entire guild is in the channel. And in most cases theres 30 or 40 guildies in the channel because some people are on alts that arent in the raid. Private channels shouldnt have rules like this...If you dont want to see the spam, then leave the channel.

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  • Eldre'Thalas
  • 32. Re: You're wrong Slouken...(throttling)   10/30/2007 10:41:11 AM PDT
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I heard servers may be back up already - can anyone confirm whether or not the throttling fix is now active?
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  • 33. Re: You're wrong Slouken...(throttling)   10/30/2007 11:06:15 AM PDT
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Has anyone run into problems with this and attendance addons? Anyone have one that still works?

We use one from way back and with the changes...it constantly misses people in the chat channel.

We use Raid Attendance(I think thats the name) using the /att command.
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  • Bloodhoof
  • 34. Re: You're wrong Slouken...(throttling)   10/30/2007 11:13:26 AM PDT
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Q u o t e:
I heard servers may be back up already - can anyone confirm whether or not the throttling fix is now active?




Macros to our private healing channel work again. :)
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  • Thorium Brotherhood
  • 35. Re: You're wrong Slouken...(throttling)   10/30/2007 12:02:29 PM PDT
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This function is HOPELESSLY broken.

I, as well as many of my guildies and friends on Thorium Brotherhood, are getting the anti-spam message repeatedly, on multiple private channels with WAY <25 people in them. In fact, I have gotten it when trying to send a message to a channel that no one had said ANYTHING in ten minutes or more.

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  • 37. Re: You're wrong Slouken...(throttling)   10/30/2007 01:25:45 PM PDT
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Yes, I've been told that improved throttling is live with the realm restarts today. The throttling is set to15 messages in 10 seconds for all channels.
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  • 38. Re: You're wrong Slouken...(throttling)   10/30/2007 01:31:37 PM PDT
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Having multime messages only work in private channels with 25 people or less doesnt fix anything. Our guild uses a private channel for posting healing assignments and the entire guild is in the channel. And in most cases theres 30 or 40 guildies in the channel because some people are on alts that arent in the raid. Private channels shouldnt have rules like this...If you dont want to see the spam, then leave the channel.


This is not about YOU seeing more text. This is about the number of pieces of text the server has to send to multiple people all the time.

I'll make a really simple example to demonstrate the point.

I have a group of friends and I want to give them all oranges (data). To give them oranges I have to have them hand-carried by a messenger (server). I can only use this one messenger (server) to deliver oranges (data) to every friend, and he only has a small bag (bandwidth) available to carry the oranges(data). The more oranges(data) I send to more friends, the more likely the messenger's (server's) bag (bandwidth) is to fill up. The catch is this - everyone else in the world has to use the same messenger to send all their apples (data), bananas (data), and peaches (data) to each other. That bag (bandwidth) can get full fast.

So in order to reduce the amount of data traffic (oranges) the server (messenger) has to carry in his bag (bandwidth), they're capping the number of messages you're allowed to send.

This is a cost-saving, hardware-saving, network nightmare-reducing change. It's NOT a personal attack, or a measure to reduce the spam you have to see. It's just trying to make sure the sack is big enough for everyone's oranges.


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  • Silver Hand
  • 39. Re: You're wrong Slouken...(throttling)   10/30/2007 01:34:09 PM PDT
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So that would mean the magic number for addons would be to only send a data message no sooner than every 0.67 second.

Now to see if that number is workable with addons like GEM and large guild alliances.

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