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It's not going to need to be rapid succession... stacking effects like this refresh the stack. Think of Shadow Weaving.

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The duration is currently set to 6 seconds; it should be fairly rapid-fire or you'll have lost the buffs by then.

Did you mean:

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I don't understand why a priest would take Focused Will over Blessed Resilience.

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A) There is now a requirement in this thread to know the mechanics of "on crit" procs.

B) A 15 second duration would really make the difference between this talent been good, and perfect.

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You know the whole point of this talent is to give you a different choice over BR right?

If this talent sucks, then it will have accomplished nothing.

That's why there's this thing called constructive feedback, something you're not doing. How about focus on what you do like about the talent then instead of bashing people who are pointing out what they don't like about it.

Other words, grow up.

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The talent doesn't suck, you have no idea what you are talking about. And I already gave my constructive feedback. You came in thread demanding MS protection, how is that postive feedback? Blizzard isn't going to make us gods.

Other words, learn to pvp, you have better holy gear than me.

My least favorite thing about these 4 talents that require you to be crit is that if your shield absorbs the entire hit/crit these talents will never proc. It's kind of annoying to have a core mechanic that works so poorly with these talents.

Excellent!

I hope you'll be discussing what Discipline means in Blizzard's designer eye; most of us are still trying to friggin' figure out what half the talents in that tree do for us.

Eyonix its my understanding developers believe priests should have a lower survival rate. I would be fine with that, if our survivability was given up for a reason. I believe the lower survivability classes should do the most healing/dps (Not talking about Shadow Priests). Take a look at the higher dps mage specs. Low survivability and probably the highest dps class. Shouldnt our healing be the same way. Right now were the fastest healing class to die, and somewhere on the lower end for healing.

I believe we should either live longer... Or outheal the other healing classes that never die.

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Focused Blood

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I Lol'ed

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The talent doesn't suck, you have no idea what you are talking about. And I already gave my constructive feedback. You came in thread demanding MS protection, how is that postive feedback? Blizzard isn't going to make us gods.

Other words, learn to pvp, you have better holy gear than me.

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fyi, this talent does kinda suck tho.

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The talent doesn't suck, you have no idea what you are talking about. And I already gave my constructive feedback. You came in thread demanding MS protection, how is that postive feedback? Blizzard isn't going to make us gods.

Other words, learn to pvp, you have better holy gear than me.

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Look man I can tell just by looking at your armory that you have no idea what you're talking about so just shut up okay

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While it may make you feel good to speak your mind, however, if you really care about making impovements, provide less negative feedback, provide more substance, and be very careful to make assumptions, especially when they don't appear to be thought out well. In short, your response reads as a snapshot judgments and even well beyond World of Warcraft -- I've never seen snapshot judgements that accomplished anything, except unnecessary hurt.

Words like "garbage" have NO place in feedback threads even if we're discussing a 41-holy talent that increased your smite damage, and required that you place 20 points in shadow.

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Hint at new 51 point holy talent in WotLK? :O

J/K of course.

Constructive comments: (With arena in mind, of course, since Focused Will is in no way a PvE talent)
From what I can tell, with this talent each tree will have a form of damage reduction:

Discipline--Focused Will allows the priest to reduce damage by up to 15% on his/herself and inc. the ability for his/her teammates to heal them by up to 30%. Because of its stackable nature, is a good, constant purge/dispel shield. Will be up continuously if priest is focus fired.

Holy--Blessed Resilience has 60% chance to stop all enemies from critting on the priest for 6 seconds. This reduces damage received on a wide range depending on who is attacking the priest, could be a lot more or a lot less than 15%. Effect is most potent while being focused fired.

Shadow--Shadowform, 15% continuous physical damage mitigation while boosting the damage the priest puts out. Depending on team makeup, has the potential to be the strongest of the 3 damage mitigation talents, ie, warriors always do 15% less, rogues always do 15% less. Bonus: not-dispellable!

Looking at each, it seems to me that Focused Will has the potential to increase a priest's survivability by quite a bit. That said, BR and FW both work off of crits. Where BR requires 1 crit to reduce your damage taken by a large % (varies on what is beating on you, etc.) for 6 seconds, FW requires that the priest be under constant attack by at least 1 class with high crit rates (ie, rogue, warrior, or hunter/pet) or a mix of other classes. Generally speaking in the arenas, priests will meet the conditions for FW to be up at all times with at least a few stacks of FW at all times. For those of you whose only argument is that FW can be dispelled, you need to realize that you will be procing this talent almost continuously and because of this, if the other team wants to keep you purged, they will practically lose one of their players because you will never NOT have something to dispel.

In summation, I believe this talent is actually going to be a very strong addition to a discipline priests arsenal and stacks up well against the other 2 priest's trees as a defensive measure.

Sorry for the wall of text ^^

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I'm going to make a post concerning discipline in Wrath of the Lich King today. Though what I'm going to say will be vague, I do think it will be somewhat insightful.

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I look forward to the post. I really do.

"With the addition of 10 extra talent points introduced with Wraith of the Lich King, you will now be forced to spend at least 30 points in Discipline to do anything effectively."

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I'm going to make a post concerning discipline in Wrath of the Lich King today. Though what I'm going to say will be vague, I do think it will be somewhat insightful.

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No reply to my post :(

I actually spent some time to think about it too. I guess just stick to the simple stuff. Hopefully you read it at least :D

Eyonix,

It seems to me like this talent would work well for 5v5 arena if adjusted. I typically run with a 2 healer setup in my 5v5, since solo healing as a priest is rather difficult. It seems to me that this is another talent designed to prevent us from just being focus fired to death in pvp; however I think making this talent somewhat like the mage talent "blazing speed" would help greatly.

If the talent were changed to give a priest a 10%/20% chance to remove movement impairing effects/snares/etc. upon being crit, as well as increasing healing by 10%/20%, I feel that it would give priests more mobility in pvp and allow other healers (if around) to get us healed back to full even with debuffs like mortal strike on us. Also, it would allow us to get a larger prayer of mending off and what-not.
Of course these numbers could be adjusted to address balance concerns.

Any thoughts?

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I'm going to make a post concerning discipline in Wrath of the Lich King today. Though what I'm going to say will be vague, I do think it will be somewhat insightful.

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wait wait.. .. vague.,. hmm "wait and see in Wrath of the Lich King" .. vague enough yet insightful there is an expansion coming