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  • Ner'zhul
  • 0. 10 reasons why ret IS raid viable   10/25/2007 04:59:00 PM PDT
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know there are alot of people out there who wish they could raid as a retribution paladin, but can't because their guilds are against it. I also know that there have been a number of threads trying to help the situation, but they have all failed because they were pretty much all wrong.
So here are the REAL reasons why every guild should have a ret paladin:


1. Every guild needs a mascot, and there is no better mascot than a retribution paladin. If you dont believe me, gear up your ret pally and you'll have people coming from other servers asking "OMG, do you really have a ret pally in your guild?". There is no better way to get publicity than this. It also helps with recruitment because alot of people will want to join your guild thinking you are more open-minded.


2. Ret paladins dont heal, so if you have a ret paladin you are still getting blessings, and now you can bring a real healer to your raids instead of the crappy holy paladin. Shaman, or priest, take your pick.


3. Ret paladins help raid setups. Since they suck so bad, no one cares where they are, so if youre short on melee, you stick them in a melee group. If youre short on casters, you toss them into a caster groups. If you have nothing to put in your tank group, you throw them in there. It's always nice to have a class so worthless that you can put anywhere so the real people do their jobs perfectly.


4. Almost everyone will be happy when you have a ret paladin in your raid because that's one less person to share loot with. No ret paladin in the world is dumb enough to take tier gear, so there is more of that to go around. And no guild is dumb enough to give non-tier set to ret paladins, so there is more of that to go around too. This is probably one of the best benefits of being ret, they have to gear themselves by speccing holy and healing in arenas until they have enough points to buy their ret set and raid in it. No other class joins raids without getting any loot.


5. They're perfect sitters. Someone was late and just showed up? Someone needs loot? Youre short and need a certain dps/healer/tank? No problem. Thats why you have a retribution paladin in the raids. With the new and improved 30 minute blessings, your ret pally can bless the raid, be moved to group 6, and either logged out, or ported out. Works perfect in almost all situations. Remember that he doesnt get any loot in the first place since he has to wear his arena/pvp gear, so sitting on fights does not affect the ret paladin in any way.


6. It's much easier to decide who to battle rez if a ret paladin is one of the dead people. 3 people dead and one is a ret pally? rez two of them. One guy and the ret pally dead? rez the other guy. Only the ret pally dead? save your battle rez in case someone else dies. This may not seem much, but most raid leaders will enjoy not having to think about these things mid-fight.


7. Lay on Hands. This is always overlooked because its a base-line paladin ability, but the real raiding ret paladin knows that its not. First of all the paladin does no damage, so no one cares if all of his mana goes to waste. That's why he should be ready to blow this every time its up to help with heals. Second, even if tanks are staying topped off, casters should ask your ret paladin to blow his LoH on them even if they're full. In addition to healing, LoH also gives a bit of mana to the target, and every class/spec can do more with that 900 mana than the ret paladin can do with his entire mana pool.


8. Ret paladins, like all paladins, have a ranged taunt. This is very useful because if any mob gets loose, the ret pally can taunt it and die himself instead of whoever the mob was on. This saves a healer or dps from death, at the cost of someone who doesnt do anything.


9. Ret paladins are a great morale boost. Every player in a raid with a ret paladin will constantly be thinking about how amazing they are since they can afford to take a ret paladin with them on raids. Not only this helps your raid's overall level of confidence, its also viewed by outsiders as a good thing too. They will all be thinking "damn, that guild has good players, what we cant do with 25, they do with 24."


10. And finally ret helps phase out those players you dont like. Have a holy paladin that's getting on your nerves? Dont wanna tell him to hit the road? Just ask him to spec ret and then keep asking him to sit until he gets bored and quits the game. Better yet, tell anyone you dont like to reroll a paladin and go ret. They'll be sure to stop bothering after a while.


So people say ret isnt raid viable? I laugh in their face. A ret paladin is always needed. Just as every meter has someone at the top, it also needs someone at the bottom, and ret paladins successfully mark the bottom of every meter, be it for tanking, healing, or dps. You may think this is a long shot, but ret paladins actually help define the raid.
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  • Misha
  • 1. Re: 10 reasons why ret IS raid viable   10/25/2007 05:01:17 PM PDT
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1/10


the 1 is for the effort

Who's the !%! with the tuba?
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  • Illidan
  • 3. Re: 10 reasons why ret IS raid viable   10/25/2007 05:02:45 PM PDT
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1/10


the 1 is for the effort



You're almost 70 man, grats.
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  • Misha
  • 4. Re: 10 reasons why ret IS raid viable   10/25/2007 05:04:21 PM PDT
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Q u o t e:



You're almost 70 man, grats.


click armory

Who's the !%! with the tuba?
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  • 5. Re: 10 reasons why ret IS raid viable   10/25/2007 05:04:22 PM PDT
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Rofl, 1/10, 2/10?

This troll is hilarious. :D

10/10

"The season 3 retribution set has been changed."

Finally!
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  • 6. Re: 10 reasons why ret IS raid viable   10/25/2007 05:06:39 PM PDT
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Rofl, 1/10, 2/10?

This troll is hilarious. :D

10/10


The problem is this: he suggested that the Ret paladin can do Greater Blessings and then leave, which would remove the blessing.

meh

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Khajiit has no time for you!

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  • Archimonde
  • 8. Re: 10 reasons why ret IS raid viable   10/25/2007 05:08:18 PM PDT
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Rofl, 1/10, 2/10?

This troll is hilarious. :D

10/10


I laughed.

Barry Bonds is a fake.
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  • Ner'zhul
  • 9. Re: 10 reasons why ret IS raid viable   10/25/2007 05:10:33 PM PDT
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The problem is this: he suggested that the Ret paladin can do Greater Blessings and then leave, which would remove the blessing.

meh


It's kinda embarrassing that youre level 70 and you dont know this.
I didnt post your name under the quote to give you a chance to edit it and pretend you never said that.
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  • 10. Re: 10 reasons why ret IS raid viable   10/25/2007 05:11:16 PM PDT
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It's kinda embarrassing that youre level 70 and you dont know this.
I didnt post your name under the quote to give you a chance to edit it and pretend you never said that.


lol I love this guy.

"The season 3 retribution set has been changed."

Finally!
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  • 11. Re: 10 reasons why ret IS raid viable   10/25/2007 05:12:26 PM PDT
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It's kinda embarrassing that youre level 70 and you dont know this.
I didnt post your name under the quote to give you a chance to edit it and pretend you never said that.


Did something change? I've been out of it for a while. It certainly used to be that way.

Beg for mercy, Snowman!
Khajiit has no time for you!

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  • 12. Re: 10 reasons why ret IS raid viable   10/25/2007 05:12:58 PM PDT
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Did something change? I've been out of it for a while. It certainly used to be that way.


Give this a shot.

I fought and died for Threat Reduction.
My death was not in vain ;)
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  • 13. Re: 10 reasons why ret IS raid viable   10/25/2007 05:17:09 PM PDT
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Is it ok to laugh at handicapped peoples jokes?
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  • 14. Re: 10 reasons why ret IS raid viable   10/25/2007 05:19:33 PM PDT
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Q u o t e:
Is it ok to laugh at handicapped peoples jokes?


I'm laughing at your joke, so I'd say yes. :O

"The season 3 retribution set has been changed."

Finally!
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  • Anetheron
  • 15. Re: 10 reasons why ret IS raid viable   10/25/2007 05:21:58 PM PDT
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No way, we can't let ret pallys be this usfull. Nerf pls.
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  • 16. Re: 10 reasons why ret IS raid viable   10/25/2007 05:42:32 PM PDT
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Man this guy should right for Fantasy novels, this rant was hilarious and truely not based in any fact at all

I'm NOT Rick James, so stop calling me that
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  • 17. Re: 10 reasons why ret IS raid viable   10/25/2007 06:43:09 PM PDT
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10/10

70 Lock (Demo)
70 Rogue (Combat)
70 Paladin (Holy or Prot)
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<Timbal> I mean... five people? At some point I suggest you assume responsibility for your ability to play the game.
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  • Cenarion Circle
  • 18. Re: 10 reasons why ret IS raid viable   10/25/2007 06:52:12 PM PDT
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Be it a joke thread or not, I don't like these reason. Nothing more to say.
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  • 19. Re: 10 reasons why ret IS raid viable   10/25/2007 07:27:16 PM PDT
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This post

probably one of the most true things i've ever read in terms of proving myself to raid leaders who refuse to listen to reason.

OP, you are a champion
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