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  • 0. PTR Dirty Deeds Experiment   10/17/2007 06:09:09 AM PDT
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Supposedly dmg is increased by 20% against mobs at 35% or lower health.

Anyone notice if this is actually working on the PTR?

It wasnt working with existing garrote/ruptures when the mobs hit 35% health. This leads me to believe that if it works, it would only work on dots you place after the mobs is at 35% health. Need to test this.

Also, used Hemo as standard attack and didnt see a 20% improvement in dmg. Didn't do enough tests on this but am curious as to the findings others are seeing.

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  • 1. Re: PTR Dirty Deeds Experiment   10/17/2007 06:11:06 AM PDT
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When you get the mob under 35% I'm thinking it gives you an invisible buff. So you would have to re-bleed them for the correct ticks since bleeds only vary once they're on based on debuffs and not buffs. If you get new buffs you need a new bleed.

A fun experiment is stealth around 'til someone drops below 35% health and then SS Ambush them. Good times.

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  • 2. Re: PTR Dirty Deeds Experiment   10/17/2007 06:21:27 AM PDT
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It's the same as the mage talent. You don't see anything in terms of a buff or debuff, but you do see bigger hits.
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  • 3. Re: PTR Dirty Deeds Experiment   10/17/2007 06:24:27 AM PDT
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With the new Shadowstep, being usable both in and out of combat, I'm assuming that when you use it in combat, you're limited to just Backstab?

What kind of numbers are people seeing with a ShadowStep backstab on a target < 35%?

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  • 5. Re: PTR Dirty Deeds Experiment   10/17/2007 06:32:38 AM PDT
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I want to post something snarky but I just cannot be stuffed.


Nice, I lucked out it seems.

My feelings get hurt very easily :(

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  • 6. Re: PTR Dirty Deeds Experiment   10/17/2007 06:43:14 AM PDT
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You're missing the point that even with the Dirty Deeds change a Shadowstep build will still fail at producing DPS. If anything you will still be lucky to be just barely above the tanks on total damage.
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  • 8. Re: PTR Dirty Deeds Experiment   10/17/2007 06:48:24 AM PDT
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snarky


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  • 10. Re: PTR Dirty Deeds Experiment   10/17/2007 07:00:53 AM PDT
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However....


4/32/25 for pee vee pee.

I'mma be doing this when 2.3 hits.


True that Dirty Deeds has some PvP potential as people won't be used to the extra damage.
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  • 12. Re: PTR Dirty Deeds Experiment   10/17/2007 07:07:22 AM PDT
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Yeah. It might make finishers... finishers.


GASP

This surely must be nerfed before it goes live then.
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  • 13. Re: PTR Dirty Deeds Experiment   10/17/2007 07:13:34 AM PDT
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Yeah. It might make finishers... finishers.


QFT


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  • 16. Re: PTR Dirty Deeds Experiment   10/17/2007 07:23:12 AM PDT
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It works...I hit a mage with an almost 2k eviscerate and i only had 3 combo points. It doesn't show the buff, but it definitely has bigger hit. I am 5/32/24.
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  • 17. Re: PTR Dirty Deeds Experiment   10/17/2007 07:24:26 AM PDT
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DON'T BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU HEAR
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  • 18. Re: PTR Dirty Deeds Experiment   10/17/2007 07:26:13 AM PDT
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What do you guys think of vanishing when your opponent is at 30% HP then shadowstep(+20% dmg to ambush), then u get master of sub buff(+10% dmg before and 6 secs after u break stealh) then dirty deeds buff(+20%) what do you guys think the dmg with ambush would be?

Also i think the Dirty deeds buff will only majorly affect PvE since if your target is lets say at 20% you gain the buff a healer can easily throw and insta heal or a quick heal bringing him up past the mark and you lose the debuff which IMO will be pretty useless against healer grps. They should make it that when you get a mob or person below the % of HP needed to set dirty deeds off you gain the buff for 10-15 secs and keeps getting refreshed if the target is below the said % to gain the DD buff.


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  • 19. Re: PTR Dirty Deeds Experiment   10/17/2007 07:26:28 AM PDT
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I instantly notice a difference in damage when my target hits 35%, I'm hemo (maces) and whats nice about being hemo is it is considered a special ability therefore ALL of my hits (as long as the target has the hemo debuff on them) hit harder when they are at 35%-. Anyother spec besides hemo will not see an increase in white damage because it is simply not a special ability, you must use one of your abilities to see the damage increase on it. (i.e. ambush)


That sounds pretty nutty. Are you sure?
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