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  • Earthen Ring
  • 801. Re: Why was Deathwish moved to Arms?   11/04/2007 12:07:13 AM PDT
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Some warriors felt forced to pickup certain talents and this left them with few options. This change could allow people in these situations to have some extra options while the weapon expertise and threat reduction improvements to the deep end of the fury tree allow for more consistent sustained damage.




<sigh> I might not hear the endless QQ from this but...I feel forced to pick up Instant Corruption...and therefore left with fewer options...But I play Destruction...and nobody gives a ##%! about that tree.

Fighting a warrior is like fighting a blender.
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  • 802. Re: Why was Deathwish moved to Arms?   11/04/2007 12:10:48 AM PDT
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<sigh> I might not hear the endless QQ from this but...I feel forced to pick up Instant Corruption...and therefore left with fewer options...But I play Destruction...and nobody gives a ##%! about that tree.


Make corruption an instant cast spell >_<

even untalented it has the coefficient of an instant cast spell.....this is incredibly lame!!!
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  • Bronzebeard
  • 803. Re: Why was Deathwish moved to Arms?   11/04/2007 06:48:26 AM PST
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did you expect anything else

the developers are ignoring the feedback

most warriors dislike the talent swaps

Fury is losing a huge part of what little PvP viability it had

Arms builds are not being effected at all ( and one of the two posts by blizzard on this claimed the talent swaps where due to players feeling they had to have certain talents) , while the best PVE fury DPS build has lost an important talent .

now fury warriors have to waste 6 points in the fury tree on talents they will almost never use

Flurry remains a 10 point talent (5 points sunk into Enrage ,required for Flurry )

and now Blood Thirst costs 2 points ( 1 point sunk into Sweeping strikes , required for Blood thirst)

[ Post edited by Deathsmane ]


"Remember, remember, the 5th of December,
The patch day treason and plot.
I see no reason, for MS and Cleavin',
Since Tseric wants us to spec Prot."
-- Vortigen, Doomhammer
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  • 804. Re: Why was Deathwish moved to Arms?   11/04/2007 11:08:38 AM PST
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did you expect anything else

the developers are ignoring the feedback

most warriors dislike the talent swaps

Fury is losing a huge part of what little PvP viability it had

Arms builds are not being effected at all ( and one of the two posts by blizzard on this claimed the talent swaps where due to players feeling they had to have certain talents) , while the best PVE fury DPS build has lost an important talent .

now fury warriors have to waste 6 points in the fury tree on talents they will almost never use

Flurry remains a 10 point talent (5 points sunk into Enrage ,required for Flurry )

and now Blood Thirst costs 2 points ( 1 point sunk into Sweeping strikes , required for Blood thirst)



yet TM is still in prot
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  • Bronzebeard
  • 805. Re: Why was Deathwish moved to Arms?   11/04/2007 01:46:09 PM PST
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Q u o t e:

did you expect anything else

the developers are ignoring the feedback

most warriors dislike the talent swaps

Fury is losing a huge part of what little PvP viability it had

Arms builds are not being effected at all ( and one of the two posts by blizzard on this claimed the talent swaps where due to players feeling they had to have certain talents) , while the best PVE fury DPS build has lost an important talent .

now fury warriors have to waste 6 points in the fury tree on talents they will almost never use

Flurry remains a 10 point talent (5 points sunk into Enrage ,required for Flurry )

and now Blood Thirst costs 2 points ( 1 point sunk into Sweeping strikes , required for Blood thirst)


yet TM is still in prot[


another example of how much the reason given is nothing but BS

and thanks for picking that up i almost forgot about that little gem since i have been fury for the past year

"Remember, remember, the 5th of December,
The patch day treason and plot.
I see no reason, for MS and Cleavin',
Since Tseric wants us to spec Prot."
-- Vortigen, Doomhammer
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  • 806. Re: Why was Deathwish moved to Arms?   11/04/2007 07:05:45 PM PST
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another example of how much the reason given is nothing but BS

and thanks for picking that up i almost forgot about that little gem since i have been fury for the past year


i bet the real reason is that the blizz emplyees wanted this talent movement to let themselves spend the points to get TM
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  • Bronzebeard
  • 807. Re: Why was Deathwish moved to Arms?   11/04/2007 08:56:27 PM PST
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that could be true

"Remember, remember, the 5th of December,
The patch day treason and plot.
I see no reason, for MS and Cleavin',
Since Tseric wants us to spec Prot."
-- Vortigen, Doomhammer
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  • Feathermoon
  • 808. Re: Why was Deathwish moved to Arms?   11/05/2007 10:16:54 AM PST
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yet TM is still in prot


But they totally added a +threat to two abilities that no prot warrior will ever have to it! That totally makes it a Protection tree talent, amirite?

Sweeping Strikes: Increases the number of talent points wasted in useless crap you'll never use while spec'ing Fury by 1.
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  • Blackrock
  • 809. Re: Why was Deathwish moved to Arms?   11/05/2007 10:20:45 AM PST
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wth like arms needed a buff? now i am gimp even more in pvp and pve imo THANK YOU BLIZZ
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  • 810. Re: Why was Deathwish moved to Arms?   11/05/2007 12:11:05 PM PST
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Hey, what about all those warriors that are FORCED to take Enrage in order to access Flurry?

It is most certainly limiting our options by restricting where we can spend our talent points in the Fury tree.
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  • Dark Iron
  • 812. Re: Why was Deathwish moved to Arms?   11/05/2007 01:44:41 PM PST
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So, should we start linking threads to this HOPING for an answer yet?


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  • 813. Re: Why was Deathwish moved to Arms?   11/05/2007 01:50:04 PM PST
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Um. Have you ever run into a PVE hunter with less then 20 points in Marks? Other classes could use some help too, lest we all be pigeonholed into certain specs.


QFT

Arcane Tree has so much junk.

Mages need a complete over hall.
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  • 814. Re: Why was Deathwish moved to Arms?   11/05/2007 02:32:17 PM PST
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Make enrage not require getting crit to go off (maybe critting someone?)

and move deathwish back

thanks



why are you saying thanks?, i know for a fact they will not reconsider this
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  • 815. Re: Why was Deathwish moved to Arms?   11/05/2007 02:41:31 PM PST
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QFT

Arcane Tree has so much junk.

Mages need a complete over hall.


Arcane tree is a support tree... definitely the bottom needs to be looked at (41 pts for Slow?!) but Fire and Frost are both very strong trees in their respective ways.

As for hunters (the post before this one mentioned nobody specs less than 20 marks) they have three very viable trees. Heck, I think Marks is now the least popular PvE dps tree.
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  • 816. Re: Why was Deathwish moved to Arms?   11/05/2007 04:20:44 PM PST
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what do mages have to do with this thread...
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  • Mok'Nathal
  • 817. Re: Why was Deathwish moved to Arms?   11/05/2007 04:24:45 PM PST
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omg blizzard.....deathwish was everything to fury warriors...wft is weapon mastery supposed to help?
they basically nerfed our single target dps and made it more of an aoe spec with the whole whirlwind change

http://youtube.com/watch?v=qoTvsJLJaDE
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  • 818. Re: Why was Deathwish moved to Arms?   11/05/2007 04:33:42 PM PST
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Its ok guys guys both AoC and WH will be out by Spring/Summer. At least one of them will be worth it so all this will become moot.



What has Blizzard done since 2004? Err ummmm ahhh hmmmm .... noob
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  • Maelstrom
  • 819. Re: Why was Deathwish moved to Arms?   11/05/2007 04:46:58 PM PST
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what do mages have to do with this thread...


He figures if he posts in a warrior thread he might get attention like warriors do. He has a lot to learn....

A worthless Alt once said:
God is talking to me, 'he said pull out it isn't time'
The response came:
That is just an echo, a hidden memory, he was talking to your dad!!!
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