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Bullcowsby

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Terokkar

80. Re: Blizzard doesn't care 03/09/2010 12:51:50 PM PST

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Doing anything=Doing what you want them to do

So I can see how you think they aren't doing anything.

Exactly. Or...

I'm sitting at home in front of my laptop I see nothing happening outside of my house and so everyone else in the world MUST be dead!

Because "I can't see what you're doing" = "you must not be doing anything."

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Squeezme

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Uther

81. Re: Blizzard doesn't care 03/09/2010 12:53:38 PM PST

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#2 Certain classes being unbalanced or "OP". Right now the trend going around is that Pallies are "OP" and people have been complaining about them being unbalanced since BC and the launch of Wotlk. What have you done to fix them? Nothing. As a matter of fact you continue to buff them, ironic right?

this.

although the OP does exaggerate a bit, the paladin class complete dominance of this game is one of my biggest annoyances with WoW. The fact that this class is so ubiquitous and numerous as a percentage of class population only strengthens the argument that this class has been OP for a very long time. Druids have been also, but to a lesser degree.

Not long after BC this game became the World of Hybridcraft. That is when WoW starting going downhill (for me), and Blizzard has been strangely defensive AND devisive AND combative about their desire to continue the game in that direction. Which is very, very disappointing to me.

Insurgence

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Haomarush

82. Re: Blizzard doesn't care 03/09/2010 12:54:21 PM PST

One of the things that I have noticed when it comes to people commenting on something is that the most vocal people are the ones who are unsatisfied. You hear or see them more because they are busy showing the world their displeasure, while those that are satisfied see no reason to say anything. Now this does not account for everyone, but I'd also assume that if things were as bad as you make them out to be, blizzard would have a far smaller fanbase than it really does.

Zarhym

Blizzard Poster

83. Re: Blizzard doesn't care 03/09/2010 12:54:50 PM PST

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I love ya Zarhym, and the rest of the CMs here. I think you guys and the rest of the devs do care about the game and want to make it the best it can be.

But come on man!!

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Rexxar

85. Re: Blizzard doesn't care 03/09/2010 12:55:42 PM PST

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lol

I had Keyshon Jonsons voice in my head when I typed that too ;)

Tristéssa

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Hellscream

86. Re: Blizzard doesn't care 03/09/2010 12:56:40 PM PST

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lol

Until Zarhym gives me the giant windrider plushie I shall remain mad at him.

Q. Did Ghostcrawler ever give out those ponies he promised?
A. First, are you a paladin? If so, then no ponies for you. Everyone else can have a very small pony.

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Alexstrasza

87. Re: Blizzard doesn't care 03/09/2010 12:56:50 PM PST

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this.

although the OP does exaggerate a bit, the paladin class complete dominance of this game is one of my biggest annoyances with WoW. The fact that this class is so ubiquitous and numerous as a percentage of class population only strengthens the argument that this class has been OP for a very long time. Druids have been also, but to a lesser degree.

Not long after BC this game became the World of Hybridcraft. That is when WoW starting going downhill (for me), and Blizzard has been strangely defensive AND devisive AND combative about their desire to continue the game in that direction. Which is very, very disappointing to me.

Fallacies in this post:

Paladin class complete dominance
Class population only strengths the argument
Game became World of Hybridcraft
Blizzard has been strangely defensive, decisive, combative.

Your scope is limited and view skewed, relax and then come back and stop thinking they are out to spite you at every instance.

Kermitlol

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Draenor

88. Re: Blizzard doesn't care 03/09/2010 12:58:50 PM PST

I love when a blue actually comments on a situation regarding pvp it's always in correlation to someone who's out of the loop thinking ret paladins are still overpowered, or druids are still the king healers of pvp.

But when someone announces problems about how ARP and Warriors have scaled exponentially better than any class in the game in pvp and has started become one of the most overpowered things to date they say nothing. Or how Hunters can drop a clothy (sans warlock) from 100% to Zero if they poke their head out. These two classes need significant changes either now or in cata, it's already going to be another BS Season with these two classes running around.

Blizzard continues to reply to things about ret paladins, because they know that rets have been fixed but the common people are to blind to see it.

Another thing is Ring of Valor, NOBODY likes this map, sans hunters. Please do something with the pillars, you once said RNG in arena has no place yet here people are losing to terrain rng. It's not fun, it needs to be fixed.

Now going on to Dalaran Sewers and Blades Edge. These two maps are completely in favor of Warlocks, Ele shamans, Death Knights, Moonkins. Warlocks porting on the Z axis in pvp needs to go, it's completely inbalanced to lose against a team based on what map you play on! Ele Shamans knocking you off maps, Death Knights gripping you off them.

I'd go into more class specifics but blizzard wont reply on stuff that's truely broken, only on the stuff the casual 1500 super hero complains about.

So yet again, Thanks, for nothing.

[ Post edited by Kermitlol ]

Can't wait till race changes come out.

I'm switching from UD to Korean.

Nikhera

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Azjol-Nerub

89. Re: Blizzard doesn't care 03/09/2010 12:58:55 PM PST

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thank you for proving my point. More complaining=more people agree they are OP. Self-explanatory and simple logic :)

Not everyone comes to the forums to complain. In fact, the forums are a very small minority in comparison to the entire WoW population as a whole.

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Facepunch

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Echo Isles

90. Re: Blizz doesn't listen to the complaints 03/09/2010 01:01:30 PM PST

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...show us your Warrior.

Pallies get nerfed more often than Warriors, go look up some patch notes. You brought up the "Pallies have 3 lives" thing, which I think auto-qualifies you as a troll, since the 3 things you're talking about can't be used within 2 minutes of each other, and have been that way for a long time now.

?

It's irrelevant because it has a 2 minute cooldown?

What about all the classes that don't even have it?

Zarhym

Blizzard Poster

91. Re: Blizzard doesn't care 03/09/2010 01:06:06 PM PST

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I love when a blue actually comments on a situation regarding pvp it's always in correlation to someone who's out of the loop thinking ret paladins are still overpowered, or druids are still the king healers of pvp.

But when someone announces problems about how ARP and Warriors have scaled exponentially better than any class in the game in pvp and has started become one of the most overpowered things to date they say nothing. Or how Hunters can drop a clothy (sans warlock) from 100% to Zero if they poke their head out. These two classes need significant changes either now or in cata, it's already going to be another BS Season with these two classes running around.

Blizzard continues to reply to things about ret paladins, because they know that rets have been fixed but the common people are to blind to see it.

Another thing is Ring of Valor, NOBODY likes this map, sans hunters. Please do something with the pillars, you once said RNG in arena has no place yet here people are losing to terrain rng. It's not fun, it needs to be fixed.

Now going on to Dalaran Sewers and Blades Edge. These two maps are completely in favor of Warlocks, Ele shamans, Death Knights, Moonkins. Warlocks porting on the Z axis in pvp needs to go, it's completely inbalanced to lose against a team based on what map you play on! Ele Shamans knocking you off maps, Death Knights gripping you off them.

I'd go into more class specifics but blizzard wont reply on stuff that's truely broken, only on the stuff the casual 1500 super hero complains about.

So yet again, Thanks, for nothing.

Refer to post #76: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=23425771701&sid=1&pageNo=4#76

Q u o t e:
This isn't going to be the catch-all thread where any player can jump and say "I feel an issue is present here and have plenty of people to back me up, therefore you do not care." Do not jump into threads where a Blizzard employee is responding simply to suggest we should be posting elsewhere. There are too many threads and too many questions on these forums for that to be a fair way to get our attention, and it's not tolerated.

Your argument is, "it's amazing that Blizzard will respond to a, while leaving b, c, d, e, f, g, h, i, j, k, l, m, n, o, p, q, r, s, t, u, v, w, x, y, z" (each multiplied by a few hundred thousand a day). Even if we had triple the staff on the community team and we were responsible for nothing other than posting on the forums, we still wouldn't satisfy the concerns of every player posting. Don't fly into the blue light when you see it and scream that you weren't expecting the result.

[ Post edited by Zarhym ]

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Kermitlol

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Draenor

92. Re: Blizzard doesn't care 03/09/2010 01:11:18 PM PST

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Refer to post #76: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=23425771701&sid=1&pageNo=4#76

Your argument is, "it's amazing that Blizzard will respond to a, while leaving b, c, d, e, f, g, h, i, j, k, l, m, n, o, p, q, r, s, t, u, v, w, x, y, z" (each multiplied by a few hundred thousand a day). Even if we had triple the staff on the community team and we were responsible for nothing other than posting on the forums, we still wouldn't satisfy the concerns of every player posting. Don't fly into the blue light when you see it and scream that you weren't expecting the result.

So what do I have to do to get an actual response?

Should I say something like "WG IS UNBALANCED qqqqqqqqqqqqqqq" "Horde is favored in bgs nerf them waaaa"

or

"What do you think such such would look like as another colour? Do you think Arthas and Jaina woulda had cute kids?"

or

"Hey Zarhym, I miss you you're the best! I<3 you so much, please reply so I can spam refresh and get a "FIRST!!!" "

I know you don't have the man power to answer everything, but from reading the forums the past couple months and seeing the things that do get replied to and do get answers are a complete slap in the face. I don't want to sit here and try to tell you how to do your job I know it's stressful but the people who actually enjoy arena at a high level of play would like a bone thrown our way once in a while.

Can't wait till race changes come out.

I'm switching from UD to Korean.

Bullcowsby

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Terokkar

94. Re: Blizzard doesn't care 03/09/2010 01:15:10 PM PST

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So what do I have to do to get an actual response?

This is your problem right here - modify this attitude and you'll be much happier.

Oh, and cut out all the condescending crap.

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Liedel

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Shu'halo

96. Re: Blizzard doesn't care 03/09/2010 01:16:34 PM PST

Fortunately Blizzard knows well enough to listen to the concerns of players and use their own judgement (which comes from large amounts of quantifiable data and a great deal of experience) when deciding whether to actually make changes.

I'm sure Zarhym and the rest of the community staff are aware of this, but for every vocal player upset that he got beaten in a duel and complaining about all manner of game- and community-related crap, there are a hundred content players who are enjoying their gaming experience instead of posting in message boards about how bad it is.

Thanks for all the work you put into this game and its community.

Kermitlol

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Draenor

97. Re: Blizzard doesn't care 03/09/2010 01:16:49 PM PST

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He's saying there's hundreds, if not thousands, of posts per day. They can't respond to them all.

Chastising the dude isn't helping.

I know that, it just seems the priorities are a little skewed sometimes. He does an excellent job, the whole team does, I just wish there were more replies about the actual game balance versus most of the other stuff that's on here (i.e. GEARSCORE, GETTING KICKED FROM HEROICS)

Can't wait till race changes come out.

I'm switching from UD to Korean.

Zarhym

Blizzard Poster

98. Re: Blizzard doesn't care 03/09/2010 01:16:50 PM PST

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So what do I have to do to get an actual response?

Should I say something like "WG IS UNBALANCED qqqqqqqqqqqqqqq" "Horde is favored in bgs nerf them waaaa"

or

"What do you think such such would look like as another colour? Do you think Arthas and Jaina woulda had cute kids?"

or

"Hey Zarhym, I miss you you're the best! I<3 you so much, please reply so I can spam refresh and get a "FIRST!!!" "

I know you don't have the man power to answer everything, but from reading the forums the past couple months and seeing the things that do get replied to and do get answers are a complete slap in the face. I don't want to sit here and try to tell you how to do your job I know it's stressful but the people who actually enjoy arena at a high level of play would like a bone thrown our way once in a while.

You should leave this thread knowing you're not guaranteed a response to anything here on the forums, and what you consider to be the most pressing issue of the day probably isn't a view shared by the majority of the posters here. It is part of our job to interact with the community on many different levels, both in serious and light-hearted matters, while also taking on numerous tasks behind the scenes. That said, if you want to leave feedback regarding our performance, you're welcome to email WoWCMFeedback@Blizzard.com.

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Earthen Ring

99. Re: Blizzard doesn't care 03/09/2010 01:19:47 PM PST

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I know that, it just seems the priorities are a little skewed sometimes. He does an excellent job, the whole team does, I just wish there were more replies about the actual game balance versus most of the other stuff that's on here (i.e. GEARSCORE, GETTING KICKED FROM HEROICS)

What you're not grasping is what the majority of the posting populace cares about IS the other stuff moreso than the 'actual game balance'. Kind of a no brainer what they're going to respond to.

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