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Mokti

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Silvermoon

80. Re: Do Normal flying mounts have to be so gim 10/11/2007 11:41:29 AM PDT

Q u o t e:

Not true. I said this to the MVP posters, because their stances on issues that opposed Blizzard consistently favors blizzards opinion or stance. Thus their opinions are not very meaningful to ME. That is all. Is this any different than a person who is adamantly opposed to Blizzard, like say another game developer, who always disagrees with Blizzard? Would their opinion have value to you?

attack the arguement... not the person.

and, yes, i am being a bit of a hypocrite, here... due to my strongman rebuttal... but i hate seeing people be attacked instead of just debating the issue.

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Drysc

Blizzard Poster

81. Re: Do Normal flying mounts have to be so gim 10/11/2007 11:42:16 AM PDT

Yeah, the normal flying mount is pretty slow, and we have no plans to change it.

It affords you flight, which I think you're wholly underestimating, even without any of the content that's been designed around it. If you have even one gathering profession you should know what flying affords you. If you've ever traveled through the world... you should know what it affords you.

I think it's immediately taken for granted as it's expected, "yeah everyone can fly, so what, I want to go faster!".

It's going to be interesting to see Wrath come along, make everyone go back to ground mounts for a while, and see how badly everyone wishes they could fly again, even if it's just on a non-epic flyer.

In closing, any issues with speed disparity between the two mounts would likely only result in the epic flyer speed being reduced to shorten the gap, not the other way around.

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Palehoof

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Lightninghoof

82. Re: Do Normal flying mounts have to be so gim 10/11/2007 11:42:18 AM PDT

Q u o t e:
Not true. I said this to the MVP posters, because their stances on issues that opposed Blizzard consistently favors blizzards opinion or stance. Thus their opinions are not very meaningful to ME.

And thank you again for being honest enough to admit that you formed that opinion without burden of evidence, and consider it beneath you to even seek such. It's refreshingly honest to be baselessly attacked by someone who admits he's got no base.

Edit: hey, look at that.

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Magisterial

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Emerald Dream

83. Re: Do Normal flying mounts have to be so gim 10/11/2007 11:44:20 AM PDT

Q u o t e:
Translation: I have an epic flying mount, so I must flex my epeen everytime I fly past someone on a normal mount.

How about farm for the gold like everyone else instead of QQing?

Mokti

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Silvermoon

84. Re: Do Normal flying mounts have to be so gim 10/11/2007 11:44:21 AM PDT

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even without any of the content that's been designed around it. If you have even one gathering profession you should know what flying affords you. If you've ever traveled through the world... you should know what it affords you.

god yes... the ability to patrol for nodes without having to deal with the mobs in between... SUCH a benefit.

Suyeon

Maelstrom

85. Re: Do Normal flying mounts have to be so gim 10/11/2007 11:44:30 AM PDT

I've only used flying mounts on ptr and i cant wait for the 60% in live. Avoiding terrain and mobs is well worth it. Not sure about the flying mobs tho.

Shadowstep should restealth us behind our target.

Unbob

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Korgath

86. Re: Do Normal flying mounts have to be so gim 10/11/2007 11:44:51 AM PDT

Q u o t e:

Not true. I said this to the MVP posters, because their stances on issues that opposed Blizzard consistently favors blizzards opinion or stance. Thus their opinions are not very meaningful to ME. That is all. Is this any different than a person who is adamantly opposed to Blizzard, like say another game developer, who always disagrees with Blizzard? Would their opinion have value to you?

And yet the very first post in response to your original disagreed with you, and your reply mocked them in the topic's third post. So, really, you don't have a leg to stand on. You've fairly consistently attacked several people that disagreed, regardless of whether they were an MVP or not.

Sacremento

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Dath'Remar

87. Re: Do Normal flying mounts have to be so gim 10/11/2007 11:44:53 AM PDT

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It's going to be interesting to see Wrath come along, make everyone go back to ground mounts for a while, and see how badly everyone wishes they could fly again, even if it's just on a non-epic flyer.

Yes it's fun making the player base frustrated an unhappy.

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Q u o t e:
In closing, any issues with speed disparity between the two mounts would likely only result in the epic flyer speed being reduced to shorten the gap, not the other way around.

QED

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Velyna

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Eldre'Thalas

88. Re: Do Normal flying mounts have to be so gim 10/11/2007 11:45:00 AM PDT

Yeah good points

Toi

Lethon

89. Re: Do Normal flying mounts have to be so gim 10/11/2007 11:45:06 AM PDT

Q u o t e:

Translation: I have an epic flying mount, so I must flex my epeen everytime I fly past someone on a normal mount.

Well you're not going to be flying past them if they're 40% faster than you, are you?

This is my main.

Sacremento

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Dath'Remar

90. Re: Do Normal flying mounts have to be so gim 10/11/2007 11:45:58 AM PDT

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god yes... the ability to patrol for nodes without having to deal with the mobs in between... SUCH a benefit.

Monsterous Kaliri out of f'ken nowhere.

Velyna

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Eldre'Thalas

91. Re: Do Normal flying mounts have to be so gim 10/11/2007 11:47:48 AM PDT

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Yes it's fun making the player base frustrated an unhappy.

How would you feel if you made something REALLY AWESOME that you put a lot of time into and everyone just skipped all the content and went straight to the end? How cool would northrend really be if the first time you were there you juts flew over it all? What they are doing is reasonable. There may be a better solution out there, but I can understand where they are coming from. There will still be flight masters around to travel from place to place, and if its anything like outland, there will be a ton of them. You didnt level from 1-70 with a flying mount, so it really shouldn't be any different.

Spartae

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Frostwolf

92. Re: Do Normal flying mounts have to be so gim 10/11/2007 11:48:17 AM PDT

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In closing, any issues with speed disparity between the two mounts would likely only result in the epic flyer speed being reduced to shorten the gap, not the other way around.

So help me God if you do that.......

Mefist

Boulderfist

94. Re: Do Normal flying mounts have to be so gim 10/11/2007 11:48:53 AM PDT

Q u o t e:
I think it's immediately taken for granted as it's expected, "yeah everyone can fly, so what, I want to go faster!".

But isn't that true? Everyone has the ability to fly now, and now that the coolness factor has faded, the speed difference between the two mounts are painfully obvious. If normal flying mounts give us so much more speed, why even have the epic? Or why is the speed gap so large? Why not make the epic flying mount 100% extra? I mean, flying at epic ground speed, while avoiding land obstacles shouldn't be underestimated, right?

Wesley

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Anetheron

95. Re: Do Normal flying mounts have to be so gim 10/11/2007 11:49:10 AM PDT

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It's going to be interesting to see Wrath come along, make everyone go back to ground mounts for a while, and see how badly everyone wishes they could fly again, even if it's just on a non-epic flyer.

No flying mounts in WotLK?

Sad face

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Etoulanea

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Eitrigg

96. Re: Do Normal flying mounts have to be so gim 10/11/2007 11:49:45 AM PDT

I like to tell people that my mount is slow because he drinks too much beer and eats too many crackers at the wild griffon parties he attends.

How else do you explain why he flies along at a hobble?

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Sacremento

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Dath'Remar

97. Re: Do Normal flying mounts have to be so gim 10/11/2007 11:50:18 AM PDT

Q u o t e:

How would you feel if you made something REALLY AWESOME that you put a lot of time into and everyone just skipped all the content and went straight to the end? How cool would northrend really be if the first time you were there you juts flew over it all? What they are doing is reasonable. There may be a better solution out there, but I can understand where they are coming from. There will still be flight masters around to travel from place to place, and if its anything like outland, there will be a ton of them. You didnt level from 1-70 with a flying mount, so it really shouldn't be any different.

Newsflash: A bunch of undead mobs walking around on the snow is not REALLY AWESOME. I would like to fly over them to get where I'm going.

Thanks.

And anyway, my point was more the obnoxious glee with which Drysc mocks the frustration of being grounded after being used to flying, and shakes his nerf bat at epic mounts.

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Etoulanea

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Eitrigg

98. Re: Do Normal flying mounts have to be so gim 10/11/2007 11:51:33 AM PDT

Q u o t e:

How would you feel if you made something REALLY AWESOME that you put a lot of time into and everyone just skipped all the content and went straight to the end? How cool would northrend really be if the first time you were there you juts flew over it all? What they are doing is reasonable. There may be a better solution out there, but I can understand where they are coming from. There will still be flight masters around to travel from place to place, and if its anything like outland, there will be a ton of them. You didnt level from 1-70 with a flying mount, so it really shouldn't be any different.

One word.

Naxx.

This alone is proof that Blizzard doesn't care if they're putting in content that everyone is just going to skip right over for bigger, better things.

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Unbob

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Korgath

99. Re: Do Normal flying mounts have to be so gim 10/11/2007 11:51:54 AM PDT

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But isn't that true? Everyone has the ability to fly now, and now that the coolness factor has faded, the speed difference between the two mounts are painfully obvious. If normal flying mounts give us so much more speed, why even have the epic? Or why is the speed gap so large? Why not make the epic flying mount 100% extra? I mean, flying at epic ground speed, while avoiding land obstacles shouldn't be underestimated, right?

Right, you can't be bothered to put in the time and effort to earn your own epic-flier, so why not slow down the mounts for everyone that already did?

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