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  • 0. Blizz using itemization to keep pallys ontop   11/19/2009 10:24:08 AM PST
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Why do paladins get more stats on their tier gear then warriors.

Look at this.
Warrior tanking helm: ilvl 251
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/50848/ymirjar-lords-greathelm/
2052 Armor
179 Stam
144 Str
Def 67
Dodge 60
Parry 68

Paladin tanking helm:: ilvl 251
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/50862/lightsworn-faceguard/
2052 Armor
183 Stam
144 Str
Def 76
Dodge 60
Parry 68


Um what.... the two pieces are nearly identical, except the paladin piece seems to have more stats(Stam and Def) even tho they are the same item lvl? WTF!
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  • Thrall
  • 1. Re: Blizz using itemization to keep pallys on   11/19/2009 10:33:02 AM PST
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God dammit Blizzard.
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  • 2. Re: Blizz using itemization to keep pallys on   11/19/2009 10:33:31 AM PST
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Welcome to T9. Paladins had less BV on their tier than Warriors.

No wait, we still have less BV on our tier.

WHY BLIZZARD WHY DO U HATES TEH PALADEN??
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  • Thrall
  • 3. Re: Blizz using itemization to keep pallys on   11/19/2009 10:36:11 AM PST
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Uh huh, and you probably got more Stamina and avoidances in exchange for Block Value, which we Warriors DON'T EVEN USE EXCEPT FOR ONE SINGLE BATTLE ONLY A SELECT FEW GUILDS WILL BEAT BEFORE 3.3!

That'd be another example of Blizzard screwing US over.
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  • 4. Re: Blizz using itemization to keep pallys on   11/19/2009 10:37:21 AM PST
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Welcome to T9. Paladins had less BV on their tier than Warriors.

No wait, we still have less BV on our tier.

WHY BLIZZARD WHY DO U HATES TEH PALADEN??


That might matter if it was a really valuable stat rather than a gimick one for more or less just one fight. The stats in question here are core tanking stats...and the discrepency is not subtle. Not that I'm saying you don't have any right to complain about t9 mismatch. That's still pretty stupid no matter how you slice it.

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  • 5. Re: Blizz using itemization to keep pallys on   11/19/2009 10:59:46 AM PST
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Welcome to T9. Paladins had less BV on their tier than Warriors.

No wait, we still have less BV on our tier.

WHY BLIZZARD WHY DO U HATES TEH PALADEN??


I checked your statement. While yes the warrior helm had more block it had 21 more block value which I think is less valuable then say stam, and defense.
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  • Maelstrom
  • 6. Re: Blizz using itemization to keep pallys on   11/19/2009 11:01:31 AM PST
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Welcome to T9. Paladins had less BV on their tier than Warriors.

No wait, we still have less BV on our tier.

WHY BLIZZARD WHY DO U HATES TEH PALADEN??


Yes, because Block value is better than stamina....

I know you know better than that...

Viable does NOT equal Balanced.
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  • 7. Re: Blizz using itemization to keep pallys on   11/19/2009 11:03:02 AM PST
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Have you SEEN what that helm looks like?

It needs to have better stats then everything else, otherwise no one will ever wear it. It's hideous. And I think it makes my butt look fat.
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  • Malfurion
  • 8. Re: Blizz using itemization to keep pallys on   11/19/2009 11:06:05 AM PST
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I don't see any reason for these differences, the rest of the gear compares almost identically as well, with the exception of a few swaps between parry/dodge or whatever.

Well, 3.3 isn't out yet, I'm hoping this is just a bug or an incorrect value. Wonder If there is a valid reason as to why the paladin t10 needs a whopping +4 stam and +8 or +9 defense compared to Warriors when we already scale better with stamina in the first place...
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  • 9. Re: Blizz using itemization to keep pallys on   11/19/2009 11:08:07 AM PST
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Data-mined Item Stats are not final.

Until a few days ago, the Feral Tier Gloves had spellpower on them.

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http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=20122260534&sid=1
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  • 10. Re: Blizz using itemization to keep pallys on   11/19/2009 11:12:24 AM PST
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The imbalance of stats for T9 only starts with the ilvl 245 stuff, which if you want to argue that block value is better then stamina, then good luck to you.

In the case of T10, the imbalance starts at the lowest ilvl and persists through the tier.
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  • 11. Re: Blizz using itemization to keep pallys on   11/19/2009 11:13:27 AM PST
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How about logging onto the PTR and sending feedback about it?

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  • 12. Re: Blizz using itemization to keep pallys on   11/19/2009 11:15:53 AM PST
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Q u o t e:
Why do paladins get more stats on their tier gear then warriors.

Look at this.
Warrior tanking helm: ilvl 251
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/50848/ymirjar-lords-greathelm/
2052 Armor
179 Stam
144 Str
Def 67
Dodge 60
Parry 68

Paladin tanking helm:: ilvl 251
http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/50862/lightsworn-faceguard/
2052 Armor
183 Stam
144 Str
Def 76
Dodge 60
Parry 68


Um what.... the two pieces are nearly identical, except the paladin piece seems to have more stats(Stam and Def) even tho they are the same item lvl? WTF!


Unless the other items in the set make up the difference? If you're only showing the helm, it's hard to say.

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  • Kilrogg
  • 13. Re: Blizz using itemization to keep pallys on   11/19/2009 11:16:01 AM PST
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Placeholder data are placeholders?
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  • Proudmoore
  • 14. Re: Blizz using itemization to keep pallys on   11/19/2009 11:17:37 AM PST
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Q u o t e:

Unless the other items in the set make up the difference? If you're only showing the helm, it's hard to say.



Completely irrelevant. It looks like one either under or over budget.


Q u o t e:

How about logging onto the PTR and sending feedback about it?



How dare you bring your logic into this thread. How dare you!

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  • 15. Re: Blizz using itemization to keep pallys on   11/19/2009 11:18:12 AM PST
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Both items have 179 stam and 76 defense.

Generally, I might suggest "Is this a bug?" and not "Obvious bias!"

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  • Proudmoore
  • 16. Re: Blizz using itemization to keep pallys on   11/19/2009 11:19:20 AM PST
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Q u o t e:

Both items have 179 stam and 76 defense.

Generally, I might suggest "Is this a bug?" and not "Obvious bias!"



Or .. "datamined information isn't always correct" might fit too.

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  • 17. Re: Blizz using itemization to keep pallys on   11/19/2009 11:22:20 AM PST
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I dunno. Clearly it'd have to be an attempt to keep the man down.

Loot follows the Law of Inverse Need - The more you need an item, the less likely it is to drop. The corollary is what you need is guaranteed to drop when you are not in the group.
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  • 18. Re: Blizz using itemization to keep pallys on   11/19/2009 11:22:42 AM PST
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Q u o t e:
Both items have 179 stam and 76 defense.

Generally, I might suggest "Is this a bug?" and not "Obvious bias!"


Inc 20 pages of QQ about paladins being OP just because thread is blue tagged.

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I call it the...tongue poke.
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  • 19. Re: Blizz using itemization to keep pallys on   11/19/2009 11:26:00 AM PST
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Inc 20 pages of QQ about paladins being OP just because thread is blue tagged.


Beat me to it.

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