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  • Nesingwary
  • 141. Re: Could you play WoW without addons?   19/11/2009 01:11:07 PM PST
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Q u o t e:
Over the years i have become reliant on my addons like power auras and mik battle text. I dont think i could function without them.

Anyone else an Addon Addict?


I could function without some of them, but not all...namely Dominos, ctraid, decursive, and grid/clique for my priest. I guess i'll toss Ratingbuster in there too, I hate the rating system and it helps soothe the old fart in me that misses the days of flat percentages.

The rest of my addons I could do without I guess..it would suck but they're nowhere near as important to me as the ones I mentioned.
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  • Arena Tournament 1
  • 143. Re: Could you play WoW without addons?   19/11/2009 01:18:24 PM PST
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At present I only play w/2 add-ons: Quest Helper & Recount. The only time when they're switched on is (obviously) for lvling purposes, or if I'm trying out a new rotation for DPS. I'm not a hardcore raider by any means (I've only just recently completed 25m ToC) and I'm sure, by comparison, I would have a much harder time healing or tanking w/out add-ons but I would try to avoid using them if at all possible. Too many add-ons & I would probably start feeling that they're playing the game w/me as a spectator.

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  • The Scryers
  • 144. Re: Could you play WoW without addons?   19/11/2009 01:22:58 PM PST
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I play with no add-ons. I raid with no add-ons, and I hardly ever stand in the fire or get hit with a boss ability I shouldn't. The game is designed so that you can play it without any mods at all. To be honest though if I played a healer I probably wouldn't be saying that >.>

For me it's a personal preference. I like being able to put out really good DPS *and* be situationaly aware without the need for any assistance from a mod. Some people really can't do all that and pay attention to everything else going on, healers really almost need at least one or two to raid now a days. I have an entirely unrealistic fear that if I start downloading mods it'll make me soft... I know, it's silly ><

There are some really interesting mods though, a lot of them can take a lot of stress off of raiding. People play differently too, or even think differently (as they say with one side of the brain or the other), so one persons life saving mod may be superfluous to someone else and visa versa.
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Bornakk
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  • 145. Re: Could you play WoW without addons?   19/11/2009 01:24:04 PM PST
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Could you play WoW without addons?


Yes. My current setup allows me to jump between modded (live realms) and unmodded (PTR) pretty easily so yes this is definitely possible. But I will add that I do love the mods that I use and generally make sure I have them whenever I am playing.
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  • Dath'Remar
  • 146. Re: Could you play WoW without addons?   19/11/2009 01:24:36 PM PST
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I could, the only addons I use are quest helper, recount and omen

Pre-BC I used to just use CT-raid

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  • Cenarion Circle
  • 147. Re: Could you play WoW without addons?   19/11/2009 01:31:06 PM PST
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Wow, just wow. First of all, your achiv. for Molten core date doesn't show you were raiding in vanilla. Second, yes you "can" just like I can eat a soup using a knife instead of a spoon.

You are telling me, you are manualy targeting 25 person in the raid to see if they still have the buff on? If 1 raid member dies you always know who, you always retarget him and rebuff.

Watching over 25 people or watching over 1 addon. Eating a soup with a knife or with a spoon.

You don't need a spoon to eat a soup...



You do know that achievements are a recent thing, and that to get the acievement for the Hand of Sulfuras I not only had to have it prior to the acievement system going live. Also take a look at the fact that I have a Zergling, Panda, and Mini Diablo. Those are only from the Original CE. So there is a better than Zero Chance that I have been raiding that long.

But then again why should you beleive that it is Stupidly easy to drag the classes out on to your screen from the raid panel and make a quick pass through to manully buff people quickly, or to cleanse them. Or to even just look at the entire raid quickly and effiecently to see who is taking damage.

And with people grouped by type since thats how pallies buff anyways, it becuase a trival task to monitor Tanks. (one of three classes in pre-BC) . You could also spend the couple of seconds it would take you to bring your MT from the raid panel on to your screen then you could monitor those quite easily.

But instead people are just lazy and stupid and do what Healbot tells them, being completely ineffiect and lazy. They have these great healing meters that tell them oh look I did X amount of healing, not the fact that the were wasting mana by overhealing and wasting spells on stupid $#!t.

I rutinely kicked Pallies out of the MC raid for being stupid, not buffing, not bringing X number of Symbols. Really symbols aren't that expensive not compared to the mats that Druids, Mages and Priest have to use. If you can't get over yourself to just buff people, your better off somewhere else.

TLDR:
* PallyPower and Healbot breed stupid palies and healers
* Achievements earned before the system was in place show up as the date of the system going live.
* Zergling Pet = Original CE, good luck finding one of those.

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  • 148. Re: Could you play WoW without addons?   19/11/2009 01:31:25 PM PST
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The few adons I do use are just time savers really.

Auctioneer would probably be the most difficult just because I have gotten use to the way it sorts and looks up item info, but nothing major.
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Nethaera
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  • 150. Re: Could you play WoW without addons?   19/11/2009 01:40:30 PM PST
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try healing without a healing mod or grid and clique.. try despelling without decursive or grid and clique when you do said thing on a 25 man please evalute if its time for blizzard to give healers a custom healing UI

kthnxbai


I have before and haven't had issues. There are many people who heal without these things. I've done both and continue to try out different things just to see who is using what.

That said though, it doesn't mean that we ignore the use of these mods as something popular in the community. Keep in mind though, that not everything that is designed by a UI author needs to be implemented into the default interface either. For advanced players, the choice of mods is great. For beginning players it can be confusing and overwhelming. Again, it's the tightrope that we walk. Which things MUST be implemented and which things are OK as they are and are merely enhanced with mods added in? That's what we have to continue to ask ourselves before deciding if it's something that needs specific development and to use those development resources toward.

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  • Destromath
  • 153. Re: Could you play WoW without addons?   19/11/2009 01:47:28 PM PST
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Every paladin should be required to get pally power, l2buff people, srsly.


pally power is the biggest waist of hard drive space out there for an add on, why cant people remember what they need to buff? srsly people, isnt this game easy enough?

i havent played wow with dbm for 3 years either, the stuff alrdy built into wow tells you, you telling me none of u guys notice the yellow text in the middle of your screen or the big patch of fire youre standing in?




and yes i know my gear im wearing atm may suck, i havent pvpd on this since season 5
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  • Bonechewer
  • 154. Re: Could you play WoW without addons?   19/11/2009 01:53:08 PM PST
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All I know is I definitely wouldn't want to.

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  • Kael'thas
  • 155. Re: Could you play WoW without addons?   19/11/2009 02:00:09 PM PST
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One note on addons implimented into the game.

I do have to say Kudo's to the design team on how they implimented threat meters in, the simple glow around someones character frame and the yellow - red dots next to their name in raidframes. % of threat on the mouseover for targets...theo nly thing I could suggest would be to add an option for a % of threat over the targets portrate. but overall was simple and effective.
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  • 156. Re: Could you play WoW without addons?   19/11/2009 02:00:35 PM PST
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I have before and haven't had issues. There are many people who heal without these things. I've done both and continue to try out different things just to see who is using what.

That said though, it doesn't mean that we ignore the use of these mods as something popular in the community. Keep in mind though, that not everything that is designed by a UI author needs to be implemented into the default interface either. For advanced players, the choice of mods is great. For beginning players it can be confusing and overwhelming. Again, it's the tightrope that we walk. Which things MUST be implemented and which things are OK as they are and are merely enhanced with mods added in? That's what we have to continue to ask ourselves before deciding if it's something that needs specific development and to use those development resources toward.


The default Blizzard interface for unit frames is clumsy at best. (I would say they are horrible)
All I want out of Blizzard's default unit frames is a nice small list of green bars with names next to them. Something I could split into 2 columns of say 13 players. And maybe a scale adjustment so it doesn't take up half my screen.

I refuse to use the 5 blocks that blizz makes us drag and drop onto the screen.
If Blizzard's unit frames were more customizable I wouldn't NEED perfectraid.

Yes,Blizzard,your unit frames NEED specific development.

If my unit frame mods stopped working,I would stop healing. Simple as that.

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  • 157. Re: Could you play WoW without addons?   19/11/2009 02:02:21 PM PST
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Not anymore, I'm too spoiled. If the new 'questhelper' is up to snuff, then I probably could. But hopefully that isn't a decision i will need to make.
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  • 158. Re: Could you play WoW without addons?   19/11/2009 02:05:08 PM PST
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I did with the exception of questhelper and cart for the first 2/3's of my shaman's leveling career. Now I use Xperl and I refuse to play without that UI. I can focus on health bars better and note when someone's under a curable status effect.

I started using deadly boss mods too and it's helpful as well. I'm glad this stuff is legal.
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  • Nagrand
  • 159. Re: Could you play WoW without addons?   19/11/2009 02:06:04 PM PST
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i use to raid ulduar 25. and do 25 totc. with no addons. u dont need them if u know what you are doing in a raid.


and other peoples DBM tells you whats happening.


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