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  • Eldre'Thalas
  • 180. Re: Favourite ways to make a healer cry/hate    11/06/2009 09:07:42 AM PST
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So I ran with a group today (no names) and so many things just killed me. I understand new 80's learning the heroic game but it drove me nuts. Here are a few things that make this tree cry/hate:

Ignoring the OOM Macro. I took a long time trying to make it friendly yet concise. After three fights of not paying attention to this beg for tea 3 people faceplanted. Sorry.

Life tapping yourself to death: Life tap is a vital part of warlocks. It was my first class and I understand that. What happened to telling me you are going to life tap? I panic when I see your life drop to 20 that fast. When you do it repeatedly it makes me really want to stop healing you.

Actively trying to steal aggro from the tank because you wanted to be the tank. Uhm, face plant.

Expecting the healer to dps down her own adds. Waves of zombies+squishy tree=wipe.

Inviting a healer (that advertises in trade/lfg channel as a healer only) then asking her to DPS. For the last time, I heal ONLY. I advertise this since I duel spec'd but don't use it.

What really makes you angry as a healer?



How about....invite a healer to the raid, then when the gear drops, you win the roll, then raid leader tells you it is guild only and that you can only have gear if no one else wants it.

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  • Grizzly Hills
  • 181. Re: Favourite ways to make a healer cry/hate    11/06/2009 09:09:13 AM PST
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Convincing a hunter to misdirect a dragon onto them then making them think it was one of their buffs that pulled threat. True story.
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  • Archimonde
  • 182. Re: Favourite ways to make a healer cry/hate    11/06/2009 09:13:15 AM PST
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There really isn't too much that irks me while healing--I tend to enjoy myself even if the groupmates aren't pulling their own weight or are causing issues, etc. :) The one thing I do find myself getting annoyed about is unnecessary damage. An easy example is standing in Hadronix's poison pools - they are completely visible and easy to avoid.

I make a point of saying, "Be sure to stay out of poison pools! Mojo pools! WW! etc." just in case people have: a) forgotten, or b) have settings turned down so they have to pay extra attention. Still, people continue to do it. One person even had the gall to say - "No, I'm not moving, just heal through it, it will go faster." Post-Hadronix fight, while he was trying to loot her, I simply let him die to the poison cloud he was sitting in--and again to an HOL or HOS WW (forget which one).

But that "problem" doesn't happen too often, especially with some kind reminders here and there.

My biggest concern is lack of recognition in raids. Besides the occasional linking of a healing meter (which does not mean very much in certain cases), healers get very little recognition. Tanks are vital and important; when they do something right, they are praised and lavished with all of the loot to get geared up first. When DPS tops the meters, it is usually a discussion between the top two or three about how good they were, how close they were, etc.

When healers do things right, there really isn't too much recognition--from my experience, anyway. Proc GS at the right time during Icehowl so the tank doesn't get smashed, because he doesn't move fast enough? Good job! No recognition. Two healers down and you heal through incinerate flesh completely so no infernos spawn? Great! No recognition. PW:S + Body and Soul the person with spikes pursuing them, even if you're far across the room? Expected!

Don't get me wrong, I love healing, but it does seem to be a bit of a rocky road. If someone does something wrong, you are blasted - there is no question. If a healer goes down, crap can hit the fan pretty fast. However, do something right and pull the raid through a progression point (coupled with some wonderful DPS and tanks), and there is hardly a word. The one time I have experienced praise was during a Maexxna fight where I was told to GS the tank during her final webbing because we had little hots, etc. I was sure we were going to be just fine but I did anyway - I was later praised for proccing it on time and "saving" the raid.

Little boosts like that go a great way towards the extrinsic motivation that healers need. While I know that my experience does not apply to everyone, it has certainly been often enough (on guild runs and in PuGs) that it is definitely something to take into consideration before you pull the next mob.
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  • 183. Re: Favourite ways to make a healer cry/hate    11/06/2009 09:22:26 AM PST
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I do get a kick out of the people who pull aggro on trash and die then keep poking the healers for a rez just to make the healer rage on them.

And just for the record, I don't do this, I have good relationships with my healers.
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  • 184. Re: Favourite ways to make a healer cry/hate    11/06/2009 09:32:20 AM PST
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I really enjoy reading about how hated DK tanks are. I think it's awesome that with as much complaining as there is about finding tanks for groups, there's so much complaining about a particular class that's capable of filling that role.

Really makes me feel good that any work I'm doing to try to learn how to be a better tank in all situations is going to be useless to the general population because LOLDKTANKZ.
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  • 185. Re: Favourite ways to make a healer cry/hate    11/06/2009 09:36:59 AM PST
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I do get a kick out of the people who pull aggro on trash and die then keep poking the healers for a rez just to make the healer rage on them.

And just for the record, I don't do this, I have good relationships with my healers.


3 pet peeves of mine.

1. Don't call out for heals. I see your life dropping, if we're in a fight I'll get you a heal. If we're NOT in a fight, EAT A DAMNED BISCUIT!!!!!

2. Don't ask for a rez. If you're dead and I lived, you probably stood in something you shouldn't have anyway so you're last on my list to begin with. If we're both dead, if I run back you best believe you run back.

3. If you are DPS, never, ever, ever, ever, ever utter the words "where were mai healz?" You're only taking damage because you're standing in the green !!#% anyway, L2 Move idiot.


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5k gear score is overkill for Heroic Nexus.
Yes this is absolutely overkill. The addon says right on the screen you only need 2600 for Heroic Dungeons. - Arxkanite
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  • Kalecgos
  • 186. Re: Favourite ways to make a healer cry/hate    11/06/2009 09:38:52 AM PST
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While tanking a heroic we already have down pat I like to press the x button to sit.
I instantly get crit cause I'm sitting.
Healer panics.
Laughs all around =D
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  • 187. Re: Favourite ways to make a healer cry/hate    11/06/2009 09:42:38 AM PST
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Hrm...I'm pretty hard to anger, but the "unneccesary AOE nuke" will tick me off every time. It's not about the charts (healing or DPS). If everyone executes their role and you win the fight, you've done your job.
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  • 188. Re: Favourite ways to make a healer cry/hate    11/06/2009 09:46:14 AM PST
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Ill tell you what annoys me about all types.

-Dps that do 7k dps but are too busy fapping over their dps meter to knock down webs, ice, or get out of fire.
-Dps that think "healers good enough to heal me through ____" I dont care if im GOOD enough, STAY OUT OF THE GOD DAMNED FIRE.
-Dps that try to tank.
-Dps that pull aggro and blame it on other people. Im pretty sure EVERY dps class has SOME way to drop aggro.

-Tanks that dont use AoE to tank mobs of 3 or more.
-Tanks that are Death knights
-Tanks that cant hold aggro, even though im spamming my wind shear every time it comes up.
-Tanks that forget theyre tanking and start trying to dps.

-Healers that run OOM on trash mobs... I mean, come on.
-Healers that tell the tank how to tank. (If hes a new tank its understandable but not on the geared tanks that know what theyre doing.)
-Healers that dont use HoTs or AoE heals, just single target. (Lesser Healing Wave spammers, im looking at you. Chain heal is there for a reason.)

Dont believe in yourself, Beedrill. Believe in me who believes in you.

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  • Mannoroth
  • 189. Re: Favourite ways to make a healer cry/hate    11/06/2009 09:47:45 AM PST
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You're a scrub.


This guy.

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  • 190. Re: Favourite ways to make a healer cry/hate    11/06/2009 09:50:15 AM PST
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The only time I mind life tapping warlocks is on 25 man hard mode Gormok the Impaler when they decide the transition between phase 1 and 2 seems like a great time to life tap back to full mana. Meanwhile the tanks still need my attention form the remaining stacks of impale that are continuing to tick away at them.

I know a transition seems like great down time to life tap away, but this is one of the rare ones that still require the healers to be doing something.
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  • 191. Re: Favourite ways to make a healer cry/hate    11/06/2009 09:52:33 AM PST
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I've always favored my macro

/stand next to healer
/pull aggro
/frost nova
/Blink/Ice Block
/giggle at healer staring at health bars.
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  • 192. Re: Favourite ways to make a healer cry/hate    11/06/2009 09:55:36 AM PST
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Watching any tank with over 30k mark mobs in any Heroic with a kill order.
Mark less, tank and kill more.

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Speaking of people who make healer and tanks cry, those who make statements like this.


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-Tanks that are Death knights

- People who discriminate against a class just because they don't like said class.

[ Post edited by Arcangelo ]

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  • 193. Re: Favourite ways to make a healer cry/hate    11/06/2009 09:58:25 AM PST
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-Healers that dont use HoTs or AoE heals, just single target. (Lesser Healing Wave spammers, im looking at you. Chain heal is there for a reason.)


Chain Heal yummy.

Wait, you mean we have other healing spells?

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5k gear score is overkill for Heroic Nexus.
Yes this is absolutely overkill. The addon says right on the screen you only need 2600 for Heroic Dungeons. - Arxkanite
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  • 194. Re: Favourite ways to make a healer cry/hate    11/06/2009 09:58:47 AM PST
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So I ran with a group today (no names) and so many things just killed me. I understand new 80's learning the heroic game but it drove me nuts. Here are a few things that make this tree cry/hate:

Ignoring the OOM Macro. I took a long time trying to make it friendly yet concise. After three fights of not paying attention to this beg for tea 3 people faceplanted. Sorry.

Life tapping yourself to death: Life tap is a vital part of warlocks. It was my first class and I understand that. What happened to telling me you are going to life tap? I panic when I see your life drop to 20 that fast. When you do it repeatedly it makes me really want to stop healing you.

Actively trying to steal aggro from the tank because you wanted to be the tank. Uhm, face plant.

Expecting the healer to dps down her own adds. Waves of zombies+squishy tree=wipe.

Inviting a healer (that advertises in trade/lfg channel as a healer only) then asking her to DPS. For the last time, I heal ONLY. I advertise this since I duel spec'd but don't use it.

What really makes you angry as a healer?


Things that make me (healer) hate you..

1. Tank can not hold aggro.
2. Dps does not understand aggro
3. "Heal me!" guaranteed way to not get healed!
4."Rez me!" Ok im the healer I am aware you are dead you do not need to remind me!
5. "Rez me!" while fighting! !@#@$!$
6. Arrrrrrrrrrrgggggggg MANA! don't ignore my mana macro! If you do not know how important mana is to a healer create one and try to heal without it!
7.I'm a resto Shaman please do not ask me to "Hop into your elemental thingy and help the dps down the adds"??? wtf!! hop into my what!? dps the what?? You want me to heal or dps? (This was actually said to me in a 5 man HoL)
8. "Dude wtf why did i die" Hmmm letr me think You're dps and you pulled a huge mob and you were 1 shotted? Go figure!
9. "Shammy throw down x tote as i need the buff" ... "Ok so you want a strength buff or do you want me to counter the fear thats about to hit you with my tremor tote? Your call jerk"
10. "Dude you should try using chain heals instead of those lesser ones"? Really trying to annoy me. Ive spent 2 years learning the best way to play resto shammy and trust me spamming chain heals is slow inefficient and not as good as riptide and lesser heal. Now go l2p !

Ok just a few of my favorite I hate you all moments.

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  • 195. Re: Favourite ways to make a healer cry/hate    11/06/2009 10:00:47 AM PST
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I'm always bored when I heal heroics, so I try to piss off my dps as much as possible. I (usually) don't let them die, but it's fun to watch them pull aggro, then run up and melee the mob and /'say "Don't worry buddy, I'll taunt him off you!!!"
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  • 196. Re: Favourite ways to make a healer cry/hate    11/06/2009 10:00:57 AM PST
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When I'm on my druid:

Tanks that take off, out of range, and start a fight, no HoTs on at all. Right as I sat down to eat food for a buff...
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  • Stormrage
  • 197. Re: Favourite ways to make a healer cry/hate    11/06/2009 10:05:41 AM PST
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Waiting on the floor for a rez while everyone else runs back.


I try to take my bio breaks after whippes so we don't have to wait even more for a bio break. When i do so i ask for a rez. How is that a problem?
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  • 199. Re: Favourite ways to make a healer cry/hate    11/06/2009 10:09:37 AM PST
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Speaking of people who make healer and tanks cry, those who make statements like this.


- People who discriminate against a class just because they don't like said class.

ive only met one DK tank that wasnt terrible, and he still had trouble keeping aggro.

Dont believe in yourself, Beedrill. Believe in me who believes in you.

YOURS IS A DRILL THAT WILL PIECRE THE HEAVENS!
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