World of Warcraft - English (NA) Forums -> Incoming: WoW Noobs?

Ritalynn

< War Front >

Frostmane

20. Re: Incoming: WoW Noobs? 11/05/2009 12:06:52 PM PST

Q u o t e:

More that foxes are tricky... or that the role of student and teacher... or helper and helpee... are not clear cut at all.

so ur saying, take advantage of the nice people, And reap the rewards?

http://cad-comic.com/comic.php <---Broken Paladins
"Sincerely,
The Coolest Cops Ever." - Palehoof

Snowfox

< Hugs For Pugs >

Vek'nilash

21. Re: Incoming: WoW Noobs? 11/05/2009 12:18:16 PM PST

Q u o t e:
so ur saying, take advantage of the nice people, And reap the rewards?

I am saying it is a mistake to ever meet someone you assume there is nothing to learn from. Fox didn't take advantage of Bear, and actually helped feed Bear - there was an exchange. In the end they both helped each other.

In game, it is easy to not help people because we don't see what reward it would have (would you run someone through gnomer for 3g?)... but there can be a lot of reward, if you are able to see it, or the person you are helping is able to.

Edit: Also thanks Auravale, I do remember you :)

[ Post edited by Snowfox ]

Community MVP

Remember remember the fifth of November. Gunpowder, treason and plot.
I see no reason why, the gunpowder treason, should ever be forgot...

Tiggles

Kael'thas

22. Re: Incoming: WoW Noobs? 11/05/2009 12:23:03 PM PST

I read OP as

"Yeah, I'm so awesome because I totally knew how to do everything in the world without being taught or starting somewhere."

I read his post as

"Anyone who doesn't know how to do things without first being taught is a lower class of people and will be labeled as such."

Iceglow

Cho'gall

23. Re: Incoming: WoW Noobs? 11/05/2009 12:25:02 PM PST

Oh, you said noobs.

=(

Lexxar

< Phoenix >

Aman'Thul

24. Re: Incoming: WoW Noobs? 11/05/2009 12:26:17 PM PST

I always thought WOW is the MMO of choice for Noob's. The other MMO's you have to actually do stuff.

Auravale

Aerie Peak

25. Re: Incoming: WoW Noobs? 11/05/2009 12:31:55 PM PST

Q u o t e:
I always thought WOW is the MMO of choice for Noob's. The other MMO's you have to actually do stuff.

I know I should probably not respond to this, but I'm going to.

Having played the majority of WoW's contemporaries, the only difference I find between WoW and (L2/WAR/Aion/etc.) is that WoW is fun, imaginative, features responsive controls (no ui lag), and has the most massive and open-ended world I've ever explored. The others are more linear, feature more brutal grinds (L2 all, WAR's RR grind, Aion anything past level 25 or so).

So, if "doing stuff" means "being miserable" and being miserable is what you're after, then okay: I agree with you; the other mmo's are better.

Sanpaku

Stonemaul

26. Re: Incoming: WoW Noobs? 11/05/2009 12:35:02 PM PST

It is a sizeable world. I mean, I only have vanilla WoW installed and even so I've only scratched the surface.

Lexxar

< Phoenix >

Aman'Thul

27. Re: Incoming: WoW Noobs? 11/05/2009 12:35:52 PM PST

Q u o t e:

I know I should probably not respond to this, but I'm going to.

Having played the majority of WoW's contemporaries, the only difference I find between WoW and (L2/WAR/Aion/etc.) is that WoW is fun, imaginative, features responsive controls (no ui lag), and has the most massive and open-ended world I've ever explored. The others are more linear, feature more brutal grinds (L2 all, WAR's RR grind, Aion anything past level 25 or so).

So, if "doing stuff" means "being miserable" and being miserable is what you're after, then okay: I agree with you; the other mmo's are better.

Well, like it or not, we're classified as Noob's cause we like WOW, I was not bashing WOW, it's fun, I'm still playing it since 05', but it is super easy too play.

Murianna

< Apostles of the Phoe… >

Ysera

28. Re: Incoming: WoW Noobs? 11/05/2009 12:39:14 PM PST

Q u o t e:
If I wouldn't have had a friend get me into the game and help me along until I made new in-game friends, I probably wouldn't have played long.

I have gotten a couple of other people to try the game, but after 10 days of being scorned, ridiculed, laughed at and cursed every time they asked a question or did something wrong, they decided it wasn't worth it.

So, your friend brought you in, showed the ways of the wild and let you go on your merry way. In return, you invite people in and drop them in the middle of the jungle naked and alone?

GO YOU!!!!

Auravale

Aerie Peak

29. Re: Incoming: WoW Noobs? 11/05/2009 12:44:28 PM PST

Q u o t e:

Well, like it or not, we're classified as Noob's cause we like WOW, I was not bashing WOW, it's fun, I'm still playing it since 05', but it is super easy too play.

Ah, yes, we're classified as noobs, by Them.

I'm not too worried about them.

And, it doesn't seem super easy to me when I've got two or three Horde homing in me and I've go to try to use a trap on a one, disengage downhill from a second, and sic my pet on the third just to buy enough time to attempt to survive another moment. :)

Edit: Good to be remembered, Snowfow, and you're most welcome. :)

[ Post edited by Auravale ]

Nethaera

Blizzard Poster

30. Re: Incoming: WoW Noobs? 11/05/2009 12:48:50 PM PST

New players mean more people for you to play alongside. Changes that make being a new player a more friendly undertaking make it easier for you to introduce it to friends and family that may have been reticent to try it before. These are good things. Also, making things a bit more friendly for leveling makes the creation of new characters easier on experienced World of Warcraft players and returning World of Warcraft players alike.

So, while you dubbed this "Incoming: WoW Noobs", remember everyone was a "noob" once in their life and an influx of new people as well as keeping things interesting for you and other current players is a good thing.

Right now, it may seem a little empty in the starting areas because many people either create a new character and move quickly on (due to prior experience of leveling a character or a desire to catch up with friends quickly (with their help)) or many others are spending a lot of time at the upper levels taking on the challenges there.

I would appreciate it if you all could help do a little dusting, vacuum under the couches, and pick up your areas so that we can properly welcome any new players to our community. Also be sure to straighten yourself up a little so you look presentable. Friendly welcoming smiles only please! ;)

Also, there's no telling the "caliber" of any new players since it is all based on the individual. Fresh faces, with fresh insights to supplement the great community we have (yeah, I still think it's pretty great despite what some may say) is fantastic.

Coffee falls into the stomach ... ideas begin to move, things remembered arrive at full gallop ... the shafts of wit start up like sharp-shooters, similes arise, the paper is covered with ink...

Lexxar

< Phoenix >

Aman'Thul

31. Re: Incoming: WoW Noobs? 11/05/2009 12:50:11 PM PST

Q u o t e:

Ah, yes, we're classified as noobs, by Them.

I'm not too worried about them.

And, it doesn't seem super easy to me when I've got two or three Horde homing in me and I've go to try to use a trap on a one, disengage downhill from a second, and sic my pet on the third just to buy enough time to attempt to survive another moment. :)

Edit: Good to be remembered, Snowfow, and you're most welcome. :)

Easy, as in gameplay, I got completly lost in EVE just trying to leave the hanger on my first ship. o.0

Auravale

Aerie Peak

32. Re: Incoming: WoW Noobs? 11/05/2009 12:53:34 PM PST

Q u o t e:

Easy, as in gameplay, I got completly lost in EVE just trying to leave the hanger on my first ship. o.0

I follow you.

Grancran

< Apocalypse >

Eitrigg

33. Re: Incoming: WoW Noobs? 11/05/2009 12:55:23 PM PST

Q u o t e:
New players mean more people for you to play alongside. Changes that make being a new player a more friendly undertaking make it easier for you to introduce it to friends and family that may have been reticent to try it before. These are good things. Also, making things a bit more friendly for leveling makes the creation of new characters easier on experienced World of Warcraft players and returning World of Warcraft players alike.

So, while you dubbed this "Incoming: WoW Noobs", remember everyone was a "noob" once in their life and an influx of new people as well as keeping things interesting for you and other current players is a good thing.

Right now, it may seem a little empty in the starting areas because many people either create a new character and move quickly on (due to prior experience of leveling a character or a desire to catch up with friends quickly (with their help)) or many others are spending a lot of time at the upper levels taking on the challenges there.

I would appreciate it if you all could help do a little dusting, vacuum under the couches, and pick up your areas so that we can properly welcome any new players to our community. Also be sure to straighten yourself up a little so you look presentable. Friendly welcoming smiles only please! ;)

Also, there's no telling the "caliber" of any new players since it is all based on the individual. Fresh faces, with fresh insights to supplement the great community we have (yeah, I still think it's pretty great despite what some may say) is fantastic.

Well now I'm curious about two things.

First, being a noob myself (feel free to armory me -- yes, this is my main!), I was unaware until making this post that "noob" is a derogatory word. I guess I should have said "newcomers."

Second, had I said "newcomers" I wonder how the responses to my OP would have been different.

Aside from that, my only reason for making this post was conveyed most in the last two sentences of it and not in using the third word of the title.



Grancran

< Apocalypse >

Eitrigg

34. Re: Incoming: WoW Noobs? 11/05/2009 12:56:47 PM PST

Q u o t e:
Oh, you said noobs.

=(

I sure did.

Live and learn, I guess!

I'm glad I didn't say "Casuals" or "Hardcore."



Lexxar

< Phoenix >

Aman'Thul

35. Re: Incoming: WoW Noobs? 11/05/2009 12:57:29 PM PST

Q u o t e:
New players mean more people for you to play alongside. Changes that make being a new player a more friendly undertaking make it easier for you to introduce it to friends and family that may have been reticent to try it before. These are good things. Also, making things a bit more friendly for leveling makes the creation of new characters easier on experienced World of Warcraft players and returning World of Warcraft players alike.

So, while you dubbed this "Incoming: WoW Noobs", remember everyone was a "noob" once in their life and an influx of new people as well as keeping things interesting for you and other current players is a good thing.

Right now, it may seem a little empty in the starting areas because many people either create a new character and move quickly on (due to prior experience of leveling a character or a desire to catch up with friends quickly (with their help)) or many others are spending a lot of time at the upper levels taking on the challenges there.

I would appreciate it if you all could help do a little dusting, vacuum under the couches, and pick up your areas so that we can properly welcome any new players to our community. Also be sure to straighten yourself up a little so you look presentable. Friendly welcoming smiles only please! ;)

Also, there's no telling the "caliber" of any new players since it is all based on the individual. Fresh faces, with fresh insights to supplement the great community we have (yeah, I still think it's pretty great despite what some may say) is fantastic.

Was this lifted from a Blizzard Notice Board in the lunch-room?

Marlan

< Dissentient >

Silver Hand

36. Re: Incoming: WoW Noobs? 11/05/2009 12:58:11 PM PST

Q u o t e:

More that foxes are tricky... or that the role of student and teacher... or helper and helpee... are not clear cut at all.

The thing about this story is, while it is good (and involved far less stinging than the Fox helping the Scorpion over the river), is that when it comes to Noobs in WoW, I am both as strong as the Bear and as smart as the Fox.

But I DOOOOO need someone to labor tirelessly at bringing tedious baubles like copper ore to the AH for when I want to level jewelcrafting, and drench my blade in their blood as I absorb HKs from their very souls in BGs, and Noobs seem fit to do both these things.

Very well. They may be allowed to live after all. (Well, metaphorically, as they will NOT be allowed to live in regards to that HK farming part.)

Light, grant me the power of Retribution to change the things I can, the unwillingness to accept the things I can't, and the inability to tell the difference!
(4810) Quests completed and counting....

Misbiach

< Supreme Conquest >

Aman'Thul

37. Re: Incoming: WoW Noobs? 11/05/2009 12:58:55 PM PST

Q u o t e:
New players mean more people for you to play alongside. Changes that make being a new player a more friendly undertaking make it easier for you to introduce it to friends and family that may have been reticent to try it before. These are good things. Also, making things a bit more friendly for leveling makes the creation of new characters easier on experienced World of Warcraft players and returning World of Warcraft players alike.

So, while you dubbed this "Incoming: WoW Noobs", remember everyone was a "noob" once in their life and an influx of new people as well as keeping things interesting for you and other current players is a good thing.

Right now, it may seem a little empty in the starting areas because many people either create a new character and move quickly on (due to prior experience of leveling a character or a desire to catch up with friends quickly (with their help)) or many others are spending a lot of time at the upper levels taking on the challenges there.

I would appreciate it if you all could help do a little dusting, vacuum under the couches, and pick up your areas so that we can properly welcome any new players to our community. Also be sure to straighten yourself up a little so you look presentable. Friendly welcoming smiles only please! ;)

Also, there's no telling the "caliber" of any new players since it is all based on the individual. Fresh faces, with fresh insights to supplement the great community we have (yeah, I still think it's pretty great despite what some may say) is fantastic.

Its going to be like this...
New Player : Hi
Elitist player : what’s your gear score.....
Casual player : post your achievement......
New player : wtf
New player : log off cancel subscription

Dagamellas

< Knights of True Ligh… >

Aggramar

38. Re: Incoming: WoW Noobs? 11/05/2009 01:00:39 PM PST

Q u o t e:

So, your friend brought you in, showed the ways of the wild and let you go on your merry way. In return, you invite people in and drop them in the middle of the jungle naked and alone?

GO YOU!!!!

No, I told some people I played the game and liked it. Actually I tell a lot of people I play the game and like it.

Some of them decieded to try the trial version. I had no idea they were going to, or even what server the created their characters on.

If I actively recruited someone, of course I would take time to help them.

Edit: They also never even made it to the jungle :)

[ Post edited by Dagamellas ]

Nethaera

Blizzard Poster

39. Re: Incoming: WoW Noobs? 11/05/2009 01:01:05 PM PST

Q u o t e:

Well now I'm curious about two things.

First, being a noob myself (feel free to armory me -- yes, this is my main!), I was unaware until making this post that "noob" is a derogatory word. I guess I should have said "newcomers."

Second, had I said "newcomers" I wonder how the responses to my OP would have been different.

Aside from that, my only reason for making this post was conveyed most in the last two sentences of it and not in using the third word of the title.

There are subtle differences in the way the term is used.

Generally a "noob" is someone with little skill. An alternate spelling of this is "newb".

A "newbie" is just someone new to the game.

Had you said "newcomers" it might have come off a little different, it's true. ;)

I knew what you were getting at but thought I'd head off the negative that can come from some word choices you made in your post.

[ Post edited by Nethaera ]

Coffee falls into the stomach ... ideas begin to move, things remembered arrive at full gallop ... the shafts of wit start up like sharp-shooters, similes arise, the paper is covered with ink...

GENERAL DISCUSSION FORUM