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  • 20. Re: Aura Mastery useless in PvE, intended?   10/28/2009 02:26:23 PM PDT
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  • 21. Re: Aura Mastery useless in PvE, intended?   10/28/2009 05:20:00 PM PDT
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You'll have to explain more why losing 4 seconds turns the talent from useful to useless in PvE.

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  • 22. Re: Aura Mastery useless in PvE, intended?   10/28/2009 05:25:22 PM PDT
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You'll have to explain more why losing 4 seconds turns the talent from useful to useless in PvE.


Well it is a 40% loss. :)
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  • 23. Re: Aura Mastery useless in PvE, intended?   10/28/2009 05:25:31 PM PDT
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You'll have to explain more why losing 4 seconds turns the talent from useful to useless in PvE.


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  • 24. Re: Aura Mastery useless in PvE, intended?   10/28/2009 05:32:13 PM PDT
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Not sure what he means by useless in pve, but the reality is, most situations where it is used isn't very long anyways.
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  • 25. Re: Aura Mastery useless in PvE, intended?   10/28/2009 05:42:28 PM PDT
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You'll have to explain more why losing 4 seconds turns the talent from useful to useless in PvE.


You'll have to explain more why losing 4 seconds is necessary.
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  • 26. Re: Aura Mastery useless in PvE, intended?   10/28/2009 05:44:53 PM PDT
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You'll have to explain more why losing 4 seconds is necessary.


The spell was 40% too good.
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  • 27. Re: Aura Mastery useless in PvE, intended?   10/28/2009 05:47:59 PM PDT
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The spell was 40% too good.


Compared to what?
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  • 28. Re: Aura Mastery useless in PvE, intended?   10/28/2009 05:49:05 PM PDT
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You'll have to explain more why losing 4 seconds turns the talent from useful to useless in PvE.



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  • 29. Re: Aura Mastery useless in PvE, intended?   10/28/2009 05:54:10 PM PDT
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For me its what you get from a global cooldown, and how much "slack" you have to play with when you cast it.

Reducing its effect time means I will need to start preparing to use it earlier, with a closer eye on whether I can use it at all.

The only point of using it is for the raid mitigation, the cost of using it is a GCD.
If you miss the start of said affect, you target / s are in trouble, + you have a GCD before you can get back to healing.

All in all, reducing the time of its effectiveness just adds risk to the equation.

To use 1 GCD for something that only lasts for 6 is going to be a tough call, and make it more situational than it already is. Its great to have the increased resistance in Hodair HM, but if your tanks dead, well thats the risk.



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  • 30. Re: Aura Mastery useless in PvE, intended?   10/28/2009 06:09:36 PM PDT
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You'll have to explain more why losing 4 seconds turns the talent from useful to useless in PvE.

You'll have to explain how those 4 seconds are the difference between "Not fair" and "Fair."

On a more appropriate response note, its 2 minute CD for 6 seconds of extra resist, or uninterruptable by interrupt effects.
Compared to 10.

Even in its 10 second form it rarely sees ideal useage and is mostly not to useful.
But at the times it is useful, 4 seconds less up time..is just..wow.

So instead of Auramastery covering half of a frozen blows duration. It only covers, not even a 1/3rd.
Aura mastery will only allow me to cast 3 holy lights with a snobold on my back without interruption compared to 5.
Aura mastery will only be up for 6 seconds on faction champions, 4 seconds less of not being spell locked/interrupted by interrupts.

I mean, there is so few situations in PvE where aura mastery is useful as is, and even then its hardly useful enough to make it "mandatory" if you don't pop it most people don't really notice.

And your making it worse.
So your making a spell thats not all that useful as is..into being even less useful.
For the sake of pvp?

Thanks.
Do us a favor and just make it baseline and give us a real holy talent then.

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  • 31. Re: Aura Mastery useless in PvE, intended?   10/28/2009 06:16:10 PM PDT
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He doesn't like any form of raid mitigation, bubble wall owned, AM owned, whats next?

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  • 32. Re: Aura Mastery useless in PvE, intended?   10/28/2009 06:28:27 PM PDT
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For me its what you get from a global cooldown, and how much "slack" you have to play with when you cast it.

Reducing its effect time means I will need to start preparing to use it earlier, with a closer eye on whether I can use it at all.

The only point of using it is for the raid mitigation, the cost of using it is a GCD.
If you miss the start of said affect, you target / s are in trouble, + you have a GCD before you can get back to healing.

All in all, reducing the time of its effectiveness just adds risk to the equation.

To use 1 GCD for something that only lasts for 6 is going to be a tough call, and make it more situational than it already is. Its great to have the increased resistance in Hodair HM, but if your tanks dead, well thats the risk.





Aura mastery is off the global.
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  • 33. Re: Aura Mastery useless in PvE, intended?   10/28/2009 06:45:31 PM PDT
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Why not simply change the tooltip to state "up to 10 seconds" and make the Arena duration 6 seconds?

You say you don't like to have different rulesets for PvE/PvP, but effect durations have ample precedent.

Six seconds is hardly worth it for a PvE healer using it to temporarily mitigate AoE magical damage.


Reverse this... 6 seconds in PvE, 10 seconds in PvP.

PvE is designed to be beatable. I don't need another crutch to down endgame content.

I DO however need the full 10 seconds in arena because half of its duration is already lost from being stunned or incapacitated as soon as they call that it's been popped.
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  • 34. Re: Aura Mastery useless in PvE, intended?   10/28/2009 06:54:21 PM PDT
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Lies, Aura Mastery + Crusader Aura = mounted sprint which is awesome

>.>
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  • 35. Re: Aura Mastery useless in PvE, intended?   10/28/2009 06:57:24 PM PDT
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Could we have the full 10 seconds apply to the paladin only for at least Concentration Aura?

I can understand the nerf (while I disagree with the implimentation), this is going to be a pretty huge blow in PvP where (as others said) you already lose half the duration to other CCs.

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  • 36. Re: Aura Mastery useless in PvE, intended?   10/28/2009 07:45:40 PM PDT
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You'll have to explain more why losing 4 seconds turns the talent from useful to useless in PvE.


Maybe it would make sense if Aura Mastery was 5 seconds long?

Anyways, it's not that useful in the first place.

This is one of those... "I don't know why you nerfed it, but hey, it's not a big deal."

Who knows, you'll probably nerf Sense Undead next.

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  • 37. Re: Aura Mastery useless in PvE, intended?   10/28/2009 08:35:49 PM PDT
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Lies, Aura Mastery + Crusader Aura = mounted sprint which is awesome

>.>


Does that actually work?!

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  • 38. Re: Aura Mastery useless in PvE, intended?   10/28/2009 08:38:50 PM PDT
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You'll have to explain more why losing 4 seconds turns the talent from useful to useless in PvE.



Because it takes longer than six seconds for the DPS to kill a Kobold that is beating on me and trying to interrupt my casting.
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  • Alexstrasza
  • 39. Re: Aura Mastery useless in PvE, intended?   10/28/2009 08:39:10 PM PDT
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Does that actually work?!


Yes, and its amazing.

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