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  • Shadow Council
  • 0. Affliction, Balance & Shadow Really Need...   10/27/2009 01:24:11 AM PDT
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... some form of an interrupt reducing talent.

Healers have them. Because heals are all in one spell school. Healers gets locked out and they can't do their job. Martyrdom, Focused Mind, Aura Mastery/Improved Concentration Aura. Admittedly, Restoration Druids don't, though they can get by reasonably well with instants, thus not often exposing themselves to lockouts. Why don't similar talents for Affliction, Balance, and Shadow exist? All of the spells of any consequence for these specs are similarly all in the same spell schools. Shadow, Nature, and Shadow, respectively. Starfire? Searing Pain? The only one of the three with any practical use at all is PW:S, but even that doesn't justify being interrupted anywhere from 3 to 8 seconds (an effective silence).


Don't get me wrong, it's not a whole lot of better for Elemental either, but at least the Flame Shock + Lava Burst combo is still available and Astral Shift can help wait it out if it's a Silence + Interrupt like Counterspell or Wind Shear. Mages have multiple useful spell schools. Arcane Locked? Frost Nova or Iceblock. Fire Locked? Poly, Blink, Nova, or Iceblock. Frost locked? Sheep or Blink. Etc. Destro/Demo aren't quite so reliant on any one spell school. Fire get locked while nuking? Fear, Howl of Terror, pet summons, Shadowfury, demonic teleport. Shadow get locked? Keep on nuking and remaining a threat.


Juking? Yes, it CAN, work. But it doesn't always, and often enough you simply don't have time to juke less you or your arena partners take a dirt nap. These specs massively require some protection in this area, less interrupts continue to function as silences.

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  • The Underbog
  • 1. Re: Affliction, Balance & Shadow Really Need.   10/27/2009 01:53:59 AM PDT
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I think Shadow could use some kind of shadowfrost ability. Because shadowfrost sounds cool.

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  • 2. Re: Affliction, Balance & Shadow Really Need.   10/27/2009 02:12:25 AM PDT
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100% agreed. I may be biased, but I'm pretty sure affliction locks have it the worst. Kick or counterspell their shadow school and they can no longer DPS, CC, or even teleport. Can't even shadowflame for the snare because it's considered a shadow spell with a fire DoT. Pretty much relegated to searing pain spam.

Balance druids also have it bad since their CC, DPS, and heals are tied to one school. On the plus side though, starfire is still a heavy hitter and much better than searing pain is for affl locks. At least spriests can still shield, dispel, and if really needed, pop out to flash heal. Shaman can at least drop totems or toss out a lava burst combo. Destro locks still have Fears and Shadowfuries available when kicked.

Toss a 30% interrupt reduction into Fel Concentration for Affliction, and one in either the Balance tree or a low tier resto talent. Not sure why resto druids are the one healer without a silence duration reduction, but it might be simply because they have so many powerful insta-casts. If it's too OP for resto druids to have it, put it in a deep balance talent like Improved Moonkin Form.
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  • Daggerspine
  • 5. Re: Affliction, Balance & Shadow Really Need.   10/27/2009 04:09:43 AM PDT
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would be better to just give affliction something halfway decent to cast while shadow is locked out (rofl searing pain)
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  • 6. Re: Affliction, Balance & Shadow Really Need.   10/27/2009 04:17:39 AM PDT
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kick a paladin and our whole spell book goes out the window, and affiction does more dmg per GCD than any other class/spec. its fine imo.

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  • Blackwing Lair
  • 7. Re: Affliction, Balance & Shadow Really Need.   10/27/2009 06:28:37 AM PDT
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Balance druids also have it bad since their CC, DPS, and heals are tied to one school. On the plus side though, starfire is still a heavy hitter and much better than searing pain is for affl locks..


I dunno how often you might have seen a Balance druid casting Starfire in pvp (w/o the 4p set bonus being procced). It is a 3s cast... 2.8s in my pvp gear. If nature is locked out then we are getting focused and getting off a Starfire isn't gonna happen.

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  • Lothar
  • 8. Re: Affliction, Balance & Shadow Really Need.   10/27/2009 07:05:37 AM PDT
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Q u o t e:


I dunno how often you might have seen a Balance druid casting Starfire in pvp (w/o the 4p set bonus being procced). It is a 3s cast... 2.8s in my pvp gear. If nature is locked out then we are getting focused and getting off a Starfire isn't gonna happen.


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  • Cho'gall
  • 9. Re: Affliction, Balance & Shadow Really Need.   10/27/2009 07:12:12 AM PDT
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What, Owlkin Frenzy, Celestial Focus, Control of Nature AND Barkskin isn't good enough to land your spells?
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  • Tichondrius
  • 10. Re: Affliction, Balance & Shadow Really Need.   10/27/2009 07:32:59 AM PDT
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ITT: boot agreeing with OP

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  • Sargeras
  • 11. Re: Affliction, Balance & Shadow Really Need.   10/27/2009 07:35:51 AM PDT
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Pretty much agreed, I just don't think it'll solve all of your problems.
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  • 12. Re: Affliction, Balance & Shadow Really Need.   10/27/2009 08:07:18 AM PDT
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kick a paladin and our whole spell book goes out the window, and affiction does more dmg per GCD than any other class/spec. its fine imo.


But that is the only way to kill a Pally, and Ret only heals when they bubble or are using AoW, or if they are not getting focus in 2s and need to pop a heal... Or something.
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  • 13. Re: Affliction, Balance & Shadow Really Need.   10/27/2009 08:22:13 AM PDT
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affliction doesn't need any buffs. if destro wasnt so LOLburst afflction would rise again

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  • Cho'gall
  • 14. Re: Affliction, Balance & Shadow Really Need.   10/27/2009 08:30:47 AM PDT
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affliction doesn't need any buffs. if destro wasnt so LOLburst afflction would rise again


So you're saying that die-hard Affliction players need to l2p?
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  • Bleeding Hollow
  • 15. Re: Affliction, Balance & Shadow Really Need.   10/27/2009 08:33:21 AM PDT
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I may be biased, but I'm pretty sure affliction locks have it the worst.

That's amazingly biased. Affliction is the strongest PvP spec of the 3.
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  • 16. Re: Affliction, Balance & Shadow Really Need.   10/27/2009 08:34:23 AM PDT
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I think that the interrupts need to be rebalanced because they were all taken off the GCD.

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  • 17. Re: Affliction, Balance & Shadow Really Need.   10/27/2009 08:41:05 AM PDT
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I think that the interrupts need to be rebalanced because they were all taken off the GCD.


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  • 19. Re: Affliction, Balance & Shadow Really Need.   10/27/2009 09:02:20 AM PDT
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^

Also, it'd be cool to have an interrupt ward that automatically counters the first interrupt we would otherwise take.

Also nerf rogues.
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