Solo old raids...i've heard myth and rumor of a DK who can solo Kara....yes, all of it, there was something about positioning Netherspite in the corner someplace so you can block all 3 portals yourself. I was working on the key in off-hours times of boredom, I expect a lot of the bosses (even Prince, the tank never gets enfeebled) will be an absolute joke, but Moroes and a couple others kinda worry me...Curator is disease immune but his adds arent....blah blah blah blah

For something easier, there's the really old stuff....ZG is kinda fun to mess around in, there is just one trash mob that makes horrible things happen cus it uses a special polymorph that doesn't break on damage and takes all your defensive happiness away ><

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Dungeons are normally made for a group, but what if you can't find one?

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You know what will solve the QQ? Cross-realm LFG. Now you'll always be able to find a group. If you want a solo fantasy RPG, play Oblivion or Fable or something.

I would love this.

Even if none of the mobs dropped anything, I would do every instance.

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Q u o t e:


You know what will solve the QQ? Cross-realm LFG. Now you'll always be able to find a group. If you want a solo fantasy RPG, play Oblivion or Fable or something.

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We'll see.

It could solve the problem, or it could increase the amount of people who exclude others from groups for ridiculous reasons.

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Okay, imagine if Blizzard implements your idea, and you are able to solo level 80 dungeons. Now, to do so, they would need to add a complete lineup of gear. You can't give them the same gear you'd give if it was 5 players. So for each solo dungeon, they need to have gear that supports every class and spec. That's a LOT of work.

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Honestly, I wouldn't expect any new gear in single player mode. It could be the same old grey items for all I care.

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Now imagine the dungeon itself. In order for this to be possible, every class and spec has to be viable to complete the dungeon. Loken needs to be able to be defeated without needing any healing as there are several classes that can't heal. So they would essentially have to dumb it down to questing level monsters, where you cast three spells and they're dead. The bosses wouldn't even be allowed to be elites, as many classes are unable to solo elites.

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Yes.

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Then of course you'd have classes like prot palies. If the instance is designed that a holy priest can do it, a prot paly could easily just run and grab all the bosses and kill them in one pull. This would lead to massive crying that it's unbalanced, and then what do they do?

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In that case, they might as well cry about the mobs outside instances in the game right now.

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So now you have Blizzard putting an ENORMOUS amount of effort in for a niche that few players would actually enjoy. It would never be balanced and would lead to massive crying/nerfing. Nobody wants this.

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How do you know only a few people would like it? I doubt you have talked to everyone who plays this game.

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We'll see.

It could solve the problem, or it could increase the amount of people who exclude others from groups for ridiculous reasons.

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I'd rather do RFC with a lvl 12 noob in my party than NOBODY AT ALL. No one is gonna exclude him. Levlling sucks these days because there is no one to do low level dungeons with. This will hopefully fix all that.

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Hi! Welcome to World of Warcraft! Your epics are in the mail! Be sure to purchase Cataclysm!

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this.

Solo dungeons as they are would never really work... but instanced solo objectives could work. It really seems like that's what quests are more or less though... only without competition.

What I've been hoping for are 2, or more likely 3 man dungeons. Less intricate than the five mans I'd imagine, but something fun when you only have a few buddies on and don't want to PUG. Have I mentioned I hate PUGs?

I think some mini-dungeons could be a lot of fun.

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this.

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No, not at all.

I like the idea of mini-dungeons also.

Nobody runs old world dungeons because it's a waste of time, the gear you get from the dungeon will be replaced in 5 levels(which takes about 5 hours) and you could have gotten many times more XP questing than would come from the instance.


Of course, with cross server LFG I foresee even the old world dungeons becoming far more popular again.

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Nobody runs old world dungeons because it's a waste of time, the gear you get from the dungeon will be replaced in 5 levels(which takes about 5 hours) and you could have gotten many times more XP questing than would come from the instance.


Of course, with cross server LFG I foresee even the old world dungeons becoming far more popular again.

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Why do you assume single player dungeons would have to be wastes of time?

There are ways to make them profitable without resorting to gear drops.

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Why do you assume single player dungeons would have to be wastes of time?

There are ways to make them profitable without resorting to gear drops.

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Because what's the difference between a single player dungeon and an overworld zone?


Aside from the fact that they're inside.

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There are ways to make them profitable without resorting to gear drops.

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...Like killing more mobs because you don't have to worry about PvP at the moment.

MMORPG

Massive Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game

Key word here is multiplayer.

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Because what's the difference between a single player dungeon and an overworld zone?


Aside from the fact that they're inside.

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An instance allows you to do a lot more as a game designer. You can better script events and give a dungeon a much more immersive feel. Just as a random example, imagine the gauntlet in UP. You couldn't do that in the open world.

You can also still have boss mobs, who drop quest objectives, and make it so that you *have* to clear the trash to get them (think stealth detection).

It's just a much, much more satisfying experience. The biggest issue with this whole thing that I can think of, and why it probably couldn't happen, would be the enormous amount of stress this many instances would put on the servers. I mean, we can all remember "Cannot launch anymore instances at this time."

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MMORPG

Massive Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game

Key word here is multiplayer.

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Who in the world would restrict the design of their game to better fit the title of a genre? What a strange way to look at things.

Massive multiplayer online role playing game. How hard is it to understand? There will always be, and should always be, a significant amount of content that requires cooperation among players. If it's that hard to find a group on your server, try one with a higher population.

I seem to recall DDO adopted this platform and it worked out ok. The best loot however still required groups.

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I seem to recall DDO adopted this platform and it worked out ok. The best loot however still required groups.

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Because clearly, the only suitable reward for cooperation among players is loot (and thus, it's fine to offer no other reward). Never mind that getting to see content should be a reward in its own right.