Yes. I will need you to liquidate your greens so I can has your stuff?

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Here's the deal.

I get to play about 1-2 hours a day. Because of this i've yet to do a single instance, ive got pretty craptastic gear and really no hope of getting anything better besides maybe pvp honor gear.

With my time limit on playing I cant get into any guild runs because they take too long to get started and I definitely cant do pug runs with my crappy gear.

Should I go ahead and quit since having a lvl 80 in quest greens is about as good as its going to get?


(used to do high end raiding back in vanilla, but had to quit right after TBC came out)

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1) You can get completely geared in blue items through questing and world drops. Keep doing quests and you'll get better gear.

2) 1-2 hours a day is more than enough time to do the daily dungeon which would also gear you up in rare Blues.

3) All of the heroics can be done in blues. Not only will you earn epic gear by doing heroics but you can also build rep and purchase rep gear this way too.

4) Join a larger guild

5) If all else fails then yes, quit the game. It really doesn't need to be made any easier.

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First and foremost, this is definitely an important question to ask yourself:

I will say though that the majority of my play sessions are not longer than 1-2 hours in a single day. There are usually at least 1-2 days a week I don't play at all; and 1-2 days a week I play for 3 hours in one sitting (raid nights).

It's very possible to run 2-3 Heroic instances in a 2-hour setting (even in your gear) and get some very good upgrades in a relatively short while.

If you're that concerned that your gear is not good enough to even find pick-up groups, there are several good quest and reputation rewards available in Icecrown and Storm Peaks which do not require assistance from others and can be obtained in a reasonable amount of time. There are also some good crafted or Bind-on-Equip items out there that can be created or purchased. There are so many ways these days to catch up to the pack, so to speak.

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Depending on the server, it may take as long as he has to play JUST to get into a group. It doesn't sound like he's having any fun anymore =(

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lol on my server to do toc10 you need a 4700 gs min. Stupid mods like this ruin the game for a lot of people.

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Hate to break it to you but using wrong gems and not having the appropriate gear to do the content wouldn't get you into my group. Your gear should at the very least show that you're trying to gear for the raid content.

Sounds like you should quit or find another game that will suit your time frame/interest. World of Warcraft is NOT that game, despite blues who will come in and tell you what they've done to expand upon casual play. It's true you can quest but there's going to be a much much lower cap on your character's ability to grow because the only method of character development is and will be gear. Even with path of the titans in the future, it's no doubt going to be a system where you are required to get it and people will expect healers/tanks/dps to have a certain path spec.

In short, yes. It's a gear centered game with no advancement otherwise.

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Pro Troll.

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I'm starting to agree. He dodged the, "Are you having fun?" question which is what matters.

After that he should ask himself, "Is it worth the time/money compared to other hobbies?" And he'll have an answer.

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If you have to ask then no answer would suffice.

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Gonna push you down the stairs now...have a nice fall.....

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Q u o t e:

First and foremost, this is definitely an important question to ask yourself:

I will say though that the majority of my play sessions are not longer than 1-2 hours in a single day. There are usually at least 1-2 days a week I don't play at all; and 1-2 days a week I play for 3 hours in one sitting (raid nights).

It's very possible to run 2-3 Heroic instances in a 2-hour setting (even in your gear) and get some very good upgrades in a relatively short while.

If you're that concerned that your gear is not good enough to even find pick-up groups, there are several good quest and reputation rewards available in Icecrown and Storm Peaks which do not require assistance from others and can be obtained in a reasonable amount of time. There are also some good crafted or Bind-on-Equip items out there that can be created or purchased. There are so many ways these days to catch up to the pack, so to speak.

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I have an honest question. Where in the World of Warcraft does one get an invite to a heroic instance in quest greens? I can't even get an invite in my gear. All that I get is, "GS too low." or something to that affect.

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Here's the deal.

I get to play about 1-2 hours a day. Because of this i've yet to do a single instance, ive got pretty craptastic gear and really no hope of getting anything better besides maybe pvp honor gear.

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I fail to see the problem. The 5mans take between 15 and 30 minutes. Onyxia takes 15-45 depending on if your group sucks. Vault, same. ToC10 takes between 30 minutes and an hour, HToC10 the same if you know what you're doing. ToC25, pugged, is 30 minutes to an hour (if it's not down within an hour, the group isn't going to get anywhere anyway).

It's entirely your choice that you haven't done runs, and thus, complaining about it is irrational.

The nice thing about WoW is that it is all video games rolled into one. So, try out some of the other options the game has other than endgame raiding. If you find some aspects to be fun and worth the $15 a month then stick around. If not, there are lots of good games out there.

In the end, your characters will be here if you want to come back.

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you can get some heirloom items, they are equal to blue items of your level

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Or he could use the SAME emblems to buy epics.

Sheesh.

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Are you having fun?

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Exactly, if your 2 hours of WoW is more fun than 2 hours of watching TV or something else then who cares if you don't guild or do instances. Explore, quest, do whatever, there are quite a few things to do that aren't long time blocks.

With x-realm lfg, this has changed.

Hopefully you'll be able to get a group going for your alts in less than 3 hours, and heroics/regs should be immediate.

I'd keep playing.

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With x-realm lfg, this has changed.

Hopefully you'll be able to get a group going for your alts in less than 3 hours, and heroics/regs should be immediate.

I'd keep playing.

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Why on earth do people think this is true?

If your server has 2 tanks, 2 healers, and 12 DPS in lfg, and my server has 2 tanks, 2 healers, and 12 DPS in lfg, it's still the same total number of DPS left without a tank or healer.

Edit: All crossrealm lfg means is even lower standards of accountability, which will (inevitably, given the warcraft community) lead to more ninjaing, griefing, and leeching.

If you are having fun don't quit. There is a lot to do in the game outside of instances. Also, there are a lot of instances which take well under 2 hours to complete, I would definitely try those out if you are wanting to run instances.

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If your server has 2 tanks, 2 healers, and 12 DPS in lfg, and my server has 2 tanks, 2 healers, and 12 DPS in lfg, it's still the same total number of DPS left without a tank or healer.

Edit: All crossrealm lfg means is even lower standards of accountability, which will (inevitably, given the warcraft community) lead to more ninjaing, griefing, and leeching.

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I do think it's interesting that the same group of people who can't find healers and tanks for five-mans also get a lot of groups with players who ninja and grief and whatnot.

I never have trouble forming groups on any of the three servers I play on, nor do I encounter low standards of play (aside from well intentioned folk learning the game) when I do PuG.

Fun factor is a primary reason why i generally only log in to raid, though that will probably change when 3.3 comes out, at least for a while.

It's also why i dabble in a lot of other games aside from WoW, to keep myself from becoming so burnt out that i do just quit.

I am the healer (on galashin) or tank (on galashan). I very rarely run heroics on galashin (for obvious reasons). If I pick up random pugs on galashan (rather than just not bothering with runs unless I recognize the players or at least their guild as decent), I'm inevitably second on damage done, if not first. That's absolutely pathetic. If people keep dying (assuming it's not avoidable damage), the healer is rightly blamed and generally kicked. If the tank can't hold aggro, the tank is rightly blamed and generally kicked. But if the DPS can't even pass the tank in damage...no problem? Don't worry, the mobs are dying...eventually? I'm not asking for 5k DPS for a heroic, here--I'm asking for the DPS to do more than the 1.5-2.5k I pull as the tank.

(Edit: If it's not clear, these are the players to which I refer with the term "leeching." They're not worth their slot in the group, and yet expect the other group members to cheerfully pick up the slack. Before running a single heroic on Galashan, my most recent 80, I crafted a full set of gear, so as to not waste the time of the strangers with whom I'd be pugging. It's basic courtesy--why should I expect other people to put effort into my toon, if I haven't done so myself?)

Ridiculous.

Further, maybe ninjaing and griefing aren't a big deal on your server, but on Laughing Skull, if you don't know the ML, you expect nothing but badges. Period. You're sometimes pleasantly surprised to find that the gear is actually given out reasonably.