0. Avoidance has been Sunwell Radianced. 10/29/2009 04:58:14 PM PDT
At least on the PTR..
From mmo-champion...
For Icecrown Citadel, we are implementing a spell that will affect every enemy creature in the raid. The spell, called Chill of the Throne, will allow creatures to ignore 20% of the dodge chance of their melee targets. So if a raid's main tank had 30% dodge normally, in Icecrown Citadel they will effectively have 10%.
I know Blizzard mentioned something before about applying this to crit at some point, since most of us will be entering ICC with 65-80% crit raid buffed. I guess another option is to nerf crit through ICC itemization.
Is this inevitable? What other stats might be at stake? Is there a better way to accomplish what Blizzard is testing without going the Radiance route again?
3. Re: Avoidance has been Sunwell Radianced. 10/29/2009 05:02:46 PM PDT
Blizz wants DKs to be the top tanks again, since they have the easiest access to lots of parry.
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4. Re: Avoidance has been Sunwell Radianced. 10/29/2009 05:13:06 PM PDT
i hope u can shed a little more light on this situation blizz.....cause it seems to me that u are forcing druid tanks to go the way of the dionsaurs.
I hope you guys are aware that druids only have dodge.....you know, the thing ur NERFING!
i mean i dont have a druid, but i have druid tanks that i raid with, and when they see this they are gonna flip. I mean if u dont want drudis to tank....then why give them that option?
I hope you all will be putting some ease to this tension soon. i mean if im not a tank and im mad about this. How do you think the actual tanks feel?
5. Re: Avoidance has been Sunwell Radianced. 10/29/2009 05:18:05 PM PDT
Unless I'm much mistaken, this doesn't affect druids more than other classes in the sense that, for every class, 20% reduced chance to dodge represents an equal quantity of incoming damage. True, paladins/warriors/DKs still have parry, and paladins/warriors also have blocks, but druids will in turn still have higher dodge and armor than other tanks. And since dodge is also a vastly superior form of mitigation to blocking, having more dodge is preferable.
Which isn't to say this won't suck for tanks. I just don't see why druids should feel singled out, mathematically.
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6. Re: Avoidance has been Sunwell Radianced. 10/29/2009 05:23:34 PM PDT
Q u o t e: Unless I'm much mistaken, this doesn't affect druids more than other classes in the sense that, for every class, 20% reduced chance to dodge represents an equal quantity of incoming damage. True, paladins/warriors/DKs still have parry, and paladins/warriors also have blocks, but druids will in turn still have higher dodge and armor than other tanks. And since dodge is also a vastly superior form of mitigation to blocking, having more dodge is preferable.
Which isn't to say this won't suck for tanks. I just don't see why druids should feel singled out, mathematically.
Classes with under 20% dodge don't get a negative chance to dodge, it just gets set to zero.
Most other tanks aren't sporting huge amounts of dodge.
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7. Re: Avoidance has been Sunwell Radianced. 10/29/2009 05:26:33 PM PDT
We need another ZG plague incident.
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8. Re: Avoidance has been Sunwell Radianced. 10/29/2009 05:28:30 PM PDT
Q u o t e: At least on the PTR..
From mmo-champion...
For Icecrown Citadel, we are implementing a spell that will affect every enemy creature in the raid. The spell, called Chill of the Throne, will allow creatures to ignore 20% of the dodge chance of their melee targets. So if a raid's main tank had 30% dodge normally, in Icecrown Citadel they will effectively have 10%.
I know Blizzard mentioned something before about applying this to crit at some point, since most of us will be entering ICC with 65-80% crit raid buffed. I guess another option is to nerf crit through ICC itemization.
Is this inevitable? What other stats might be at stake? Is there a better way to accomplish what Blizzard is testing without going the Radiance route again?
