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  • 20. Re: A thread for people who want balance   10/26/2009 09:39:03 AM PDT
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Is there a way to report someone for stupidity?

I can't find it in the report listings.
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  • Thorium Brotherhood
  • 23. Re: A thread for people who want balance   10/26/2009 09:41:45 AM PDT
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each of these values assumes you're speccing for the appropriate role. tanking druids don't have an 8 for healing. you're at 9 for tanking WHEN you're tank specced. 8 for healing WHEN you're heal specced


so you think paladins heal at a 6 when specced for it?
your model was 6/8(currently 9)/6...

I'm on the wrong games forums, because we don't play the same game.
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  • 24. Re: A thread for people who want balance   10/26/2009 09:43:37 AM PDT
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Just out of curiosity, what happens if I think your rankings are wrong?
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  • 27. Re: A thread for people who want balance   10/26/2009 09:46:16 AM PDT
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Just out of curiosity, what happens if I think your rankings are wrong?


Then you make up your own arbitrary ratings system to show the results you want to see?


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We made no attempt to balance the tank classes, so beating us up for not accomplishing what we weren't trying to do seems odd to me.

-Ghostcrawler, on Classic WoW Tanking Balance
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  • 28. Re: A thread for people who want balance   10/26/2009 09:46:23 AM PDT
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do you think you heal better or worse than a 6?


Lol better. Paladins are still easily the best single/dual target healers. AoE healing is dead last.

I'd go 10 for single/dual target and 5 for AoE healing.
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  • 29. Re: A thread for people who want balance   10/26/2009 09:48:18 AM PDT
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Lol better. Paladins are still easily the best single/dual target healers. AoE healing is dead last.

I'd go 10 for single/dual target and 5 for AoE healing.


Oh, Oh. What happens if there are multiple specialty roles within each role? Like AoE and single-target healing? What about AoE and single-target tanking? How about primarily physical damage and primarily magic damage tanking? What about normal versus hard-mode tanking? How about AoE versus single-target DPS?
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  • 31. Re: A thread for people who want balance   10/26/2009 09:52:01 AM PDT
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paladins are terrible at healing. 2 paladins could not heal koralon10. 2 of any other healer class could.

single target they do fine. it's just their lack of repertoire that makes them rate so low


Yeah... The optimal mix of healers for that fight is one holy paladin and one shaman/priest AoE healer. Two AoEish healers is not optimal.
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  • Thorium Brotherhood
  • 32. Re: A thread for people who want balance   10/26/2009 09:53:02 AM PDT
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do you think you heal better or worse than a 6?


if you have to ask about one class, you shouldn't be trying to 'balance' the whole model.
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  • 33. Re: A thread for people who want balance   10/26/2009 09:54:03 AM PDT
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They days of three role hybrids being garbage at everything(but healing/buffing) are long gone and they will never return.

Tonytony is stuck in the past.
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  • 34. Re: A thread for people who want balance   10/26/2009 09:54:47 AM PDT
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Since this is clearly a whine about DPS, why is it in the tanking forums?

It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shakes, the shakes become a warning.
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  • 38. Re: A thread for people who want balance   10/26/2009 09:59:35 AM PDT
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Out of curiosity, why should warriors be at 8 tanking while DK's are at 7?

And since this is a min/max game, your ideal set up would be:

2-3 warrior tanks
2-3 healy priests
2-3 shaman
1-2 holy pally/druids
14-18 pure DPS classes?
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  • 39. Re: A thread for people who want balance   10/26/2009 09:59:41 AM PDT
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We only recognize two types of classes:

Can respec to fulfill a different role = hybrid.
Cannot respec to fulfill a different role = pure.

The roles are tank, healing and damage.

In our design, having two healing trees (priest) or half a tanking tree (druid) or three dps trees (DK) does not put these classes in different categories of hybridness. A hybrid is a hybrid.

It's the roles that your class lets you do that is important, not how those roles are organized into talent trees. The paladin is one way to organize the trees (a tanking tree, healing tree and melee dps tree) but not the only way. However, there is a reason we don't do this for every class -- it would be boring.

IMHO, the WoW community has a tendency to want to categorize things too much.

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