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  • Shadowsong
  • 60. Re: Why give rogues DW at level 1?   10/28/2009 06:03:34 PM PDT
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Why stop at once??



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  • 61. Re: Why give rogues DW at level 1?   10/28/2009 06:05:49 PM PDT
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Rogues are the only class in the game that are required to dual wield for sufficient damage output. Have you tried taking a rogue from 1-10 with a single dagger that misses 50% of the time?


Bingo!

As the unofficial, (or is it official?), rival class and repeated victim of the Rogue class I support this change.

I've played a Rogue a few times and leveling from 1-10, especially 6-10, is a major pain because you only have one stupid dagger.


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  • 62. Re: Why give rogues DW at level 1?   10/28/2009 06:06:44 PM PDT
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Why stop at once??




I have always been nice to "starts summoning" you all. Why must you always belittle me and "finishes summoning Fel Guard" berate me? All I ever wanted was to "creates Soul Stone" have a friendly chat and meet friends.

"Summons demon candy"

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  • Thrall
  • 63. Re: Why give rogues DW at level 1?   10/28/2009 06:06:57 PM PDT
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What about other classes such as warrior and hunter? Only makes sence since you moved shamans 2h talent to level 1 and now rogues DW to level 1. This would greatly incease my leveling speed and my good looks.

just wonderin.


because at 80, not a single rogue plays with 1 weapon. 1 of their most popular specs REQUIRES 2 weapons....

hunters, warriors, paladins, DKs, they all have the OPTION to use a 1h at 80, rogues dont have that option if they wish compete...

you should roll a rogue, then youll realize your question is silly.

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  • Exodar
  • 64. Re: Why give rogues DW at level 1?   10/28/2009 06:07:50 PM PDT
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Laugh it away, you! I assume it's impossible to look back to a time when you had little knowledge of, or experience with MMORPGs and cannot even fathom the notion that it can be daunting to log into this expansive universe for the very first time, trying to figure out what to do from little tooltips (which are also being vastly improved in patch 3.3).


No don't change the tooltips!!1 :(
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  • 65. Re: Why give rogues DW at level 1?   10/28/2009 06:08:00 PM PDT
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Bingo!

As the unofficial, (or is it official?), rival class and repeated victim of the Rogue class I support this change.

I've played a Rogue a few times and leveling from 1-10, especially 6-10, is a major pain because you only have one stupid dagger.




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  • 66. Re: Why give rogues DW at level 1?   10/28/2009 06:30:25 PM PDT
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Seeing as Rogues are getting DW at level 1 since it's an important class aspect I think a better request would be giving hunters pets at level 1. That makes more sense than giving them DW. Warlocks get their first pet at 2 and there's no reason to make hunter's wait until level 10. Some people have said it's supposed to teach hunters the basics of kiting. I've seen it do the opposite though, it teaches them to melee....


You have a point.
I mean, levels 1-10 as a hunter are a major pain without a pet.
After that, it's easymode, but you're doing a whole different playstyle.
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  • 67. Re: Why give rogues DW at level 1?   10/28/2009 07:05:34 PM PDT
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I completely agree, though we feel that we can do a better job of teaching players how the game is played as they're getting started, from the Character Selection screen all the way to the end game. A good number of patch 3.3 changes are being made to work toward this end.


you guys should keep all aspects of the website more up to date. You're good at adding new cool things, but a lot of the stuff I was reading before the game came out is outdated and/or hasn't been completely updated.

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  • 68. Re: Why give rogues DW at level 1?   10/28/2009 07:10:58 PM PDT
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you guys should keep all aspects of the website more up to date. You're good at adding new cool things, but a lot of the stuff I was reading before the game came out is outdated and/or hasn't been completely updated.

It's definitely something we're aware of. We do try to keep information up-to-date, but while working on providing new information and developing new content, it can be difficult sometimes to go back and check all of our older entries for accuracy.

I can say though that the race and class information provided on the Character Selection screen has been updated for 3.3, providing players with a better idea of their choices. :)

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  • Gundrak
  • 69. Re: Why give rogues DW at level 1?   10/28/2009 07:19:21 PM PDT
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This is pretty much the answer. While other classes can viably dual wield, it's a core part of the rogue class. As one aspect of the many changes we're making in patch 3.3 to improve the learning curve for brand new players, we're making it so that rogues, by default, know how to dual wield.


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  • Bleeding Hollow
  • 70. Re: Why give rogues DW at level 1?   10/28/2009 07:20:15 PM PDT
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It would be nice to see a small, cut-to-the-chase guide accessable through the game. For example, something to explain exactly what the stats do and tailored to your class (ap conversions, what haste means), the nuts and bolts of the game without going crazy with rage equations and the more complicated stuff.
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  • Shadowmoon
  • 71. Re: Why give rogues DW at level 1?   10/28/2009 07:23:25 PM PDT
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I have always been nice to "starts summoning" you all. Why must you always belittle me and "finishes summoning Fel Guard" berate me? All I ever wanted was to "creates Soul Stone" have a friendly chat and meet friends.

"Summons demon candy"

When you are laying lifeless on the ground and hovering over your body in the spirit form just remember, you brought this on to yourself. /tee hee, Oh yeah! I am stealing your soul! Doh'!


*pops in*

What the--oh you did not just pull me away from my ice cream. NO ONE COMES BETWEEN ME AND MY WEEKLY SUNDAE.

*DoT up to hell and back*

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  • Exodar
  • 73. Re: Why give rogues DW at level 1?   10/28/2009 07:26:37 PM PDT
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  • Magtheridon
  • 74. Re: Why give rogues DW at level 1?   10/28/2009 07:32:32 PM PDT
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um, leveling a rogue from 1-10 is significantly better than leveling a druid, paladin, or shaman through 1-10. Significantly.

Not that I don't think they should have dual wield at level 1, I just thought the comment about how annoying it is for rogues was pretty ridiculous. They have possibly one of the smoothest 1-10's as it is.

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  • Wildhammer
  • 75. Re: Why give rogues DW at level 1?   10/28/2009 07:34:38 PM PDT
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*pops in*

What the--oh you did not just pull me away from my ice cream. NO ONE COMES BETWEEN ME AND MY WEEKLY SUNDAE.

*DoT up to hell and back*


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  • Kil'jaeden
  • 76. Re: Why give rogues DW at level 1?   10/28/2009 07:45:27 PM PDT
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At level 1:
Rogues should DW
Hunters should have a pet
Casters (Mage, Priest, Warlock) should have wands
Druids should have bear form (At least, although who enjoys using Bear to level/quest?)
We all should pity Warriors and Shaman (At least they learn their place early on)

Nerf Paladins!

At level 55 DK's should be canon fodder.
Edit: Levels 55-84 DK's should be canon fodder.

Unless I decide to Roll a DK

[ Post edited by Angira ]

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  • Gundrak
  • 77. Re: Why give rogues DW at level 1?   10/28/2009 07:45:37 PM PDT
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I guess it comes down to the style that you prefer.

I hate rogues 1-10. As soon as they get dual wield, for me at least, become fun. I also can't stand mages/priests because you have to drink so often.

On the other hand, I love Warlocks/Hunters/Paladins. For me, they are by far the easiest 1-10 to level.
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  • Steamwheedle Cartel
  • 78. Re: Why give rogues DW at level 1?   10/28/2009 07:47:14 PM PDT
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Rogues are the only class in the game that are required to dual wield for sufficient damage output. Have you tried taking a rogue from 1-10 with a single dagger that misses 50% of the time?

I support the dual-wielding from the getgo change...but it's not THAT bad levelling to 10 with one dagger >_>

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  • 79. Re: Why give rogues DW at level 1?   10/28/2009 07:49:09 PM PDT
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At level 1:
Rogues should DW
Hunters should have a pet
Casters (Mage, Priest, Warlock) should have wands
Druids should have bear form (At least, although who enjoys using Bear to level/quest?)
We all should pity Warriors and Shaman (At least they learn their place early on)

Nerf Paladins!

At level 55 DK's should be canon fodder.
Edit: Levels 55-84 DK's should be canon fodder.

Unless I decide to Roll a DK



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