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Kashyr

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Azuremyst

40. Re: Can you do the random daily with a non-pu 10/28/2009 01:16:50 PM PDT

Q u o t e:

That's almost correct except for the second line (I've clarified this in my original post as well). If you complete the Daily Random Heroic dungeon for the day to earn two Emblems of Frost in addition to the Emblems of Triumph which drop off of each Heroic boss, you can continue to select the "Random" option for Heroics in the Dungeon System. Doing so will award you with two Emblems of Triumph upon completion of each dungeon in addition to the Emblems of Triumph which drop off of each Heroic boss.

I'm pretty sure you mean that's correct except for the third line. The second line doesn't reference heroic dungeons, but normal dungeons.

Unless you mean to say you also get 2 triumphs for doing random normal dungeons in addition to getting 2 triumphs for doing random heroics, but I wouldn't see this happening, due to unlimited normal dungeon runs, so people would just stop running heroics for triumph emblems. :P

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Grunch

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Uther

41. Re: Can you do the random daily with a non-pu 10/28/2009 01:16:57 PM PDT

Q u o t e:

That's almost correct except for the second line (I've clarified this in my original post as well). If you complete the Daily Random Heroic dungeon for the day to earn two Emblems of Frost in addition to the Emblems of Triumph which drop off of each Heroic boss, you can continue to select the "Random" option for Heroics in the Dungeon System. Doing so will award you with two Emblems of Triumph upon completion of each dungeon in addition to the Emblems of Triumph which drop off of each Heroic boss.

Nice even better than I thought. Thanks for clarifying.

Skrump

Shattered Halls

42. Re: Can you do the random daily with a non-pu 10/28/2009 01:19:22 PM PDT

Q u o t e:
Yes, you can do the Daily Random Heroic with a premade group.

You need a full group of five people to start the Daily Random Heroic through the Dungeon System. If, however, a player leaves the group once everyone is inside the instance, the group can continue without filling the vacancy.

All Wrath of the Lich King bosses in the current raid and Heroic dungeons will drop Emblems of Triumph when patch 3.3 hits.

The Daily Random Heroic will award two Emblems of Frost upon completion (can be done once a day). The Daily Random normal dungeon will award two Emblems of Triumph upon completion (can be done once a day). If players continue to select "Random" via the Dungeon System when running Heroic dungeons after the Daily Random Heroic dungeon has been completed, they will receive two additional Emblems of Triumph for each random Heroic dungeon completed.

Emblems of Frost will drop in the 10- and 25-player Icecrown Citadel raid... and perhaps if another boss stumbles into the Vault he'll drop them as well. ;)

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Xanedris

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Whisperwind

43. Re: Can you do the random daily with a non-pu 10/28/2009 01:19:34 PM PDT

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I've been so excited about 3.3, but this hit like a wall of bricks.

I run a friends and family guild that is spread all over the world. While we have 12 or so guild mates, usually only about 4 are available on any given night to do the daily heroic. We've been playing together for so long none of us have an interest in pugging up that last person - it would lessen the fun of inside old college jokes of old class mates.

I'm not naive enough to think others' situations are very common to our situation, but I can provide my own feedback that I wish Blizzard would add a button to start the daily random heroic without a full group.

Alternatively, is there a way to start the daily random heroic without using the Dungeon System? (Since I believe I read that the NPC was being replaced with the random raid NPC.)

I've been doing pretty much all of the WotLK and TBC content as a 3man team, and having tons of fun doing it... so I'm wondering the same thing here...

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Zarhym

Blizzard Poster

44. Re: Can you do the random daily with a non-pu 10/28/2009 01:19:54 PM PDT

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I'm pretty sure you mean that's correct except for the third line. The second line doesn't reference heroic dungeons, but normal dungeons.

Unless you mean to say you also get 2 triumphs for doing random normal dungeons in addition to getting 2 triumphs for doing random heroics, but I wouldn't see this happening, due to unlimited normal dungeon runs, so people would just stop running heroics for triumph emblems. :P

Yea, I meant third line. I've edited the post. Man... it's revisionist history for me today. :p

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Minawa

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Alleria

45. Re: Can you do the random daily with a non-pu 10/28/2009 01:20:20 PM PDT

Q u o t e:

That's almost correct except for the third line (I've clarified this in my original post as well). If you complete the Daily Random Heroic dungeon for the day to earn two Emblems of Frost in addition to the Emblems of Triumph which drop off of each Heroic boss, you can continue to select the "Random" option for Heroics in the Dungeon System. Doing so will award you with two Emblems of Triumph upon completion of each dungeon in addition to the Emblems of Triumph which drop off of each Heroic boss.

Edit: In my first sentence I said "second line." I mean "third line." ;)

What happens when your group falls apart before the completion of the random heroic? (assume you are saved as a result now)

Murianna

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Ysera

46. Re: Can you do the random daily with a non-pu 10/28/2009 01:21:56 PM PDT

How exactly do you know what the random heroic is? Or you just get awarded for the first random heroic you run as if it was the daily, no matter what random instance it is?

Do you get rewards for using the tool within your realm only or must you use the battlegroup search to be rewarded? Can you decide if you want to look for people in your realm alone or the tool will just mix and match? How is the gear requirement determined? is Blizzard implementing their own Gearscore?

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Zarhym

Blizzard Poster

47. Re: Can you do the random daily with a non-pu 10/28/2009 01:23:52 PM PDT

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What happens when your group falls apart before the completion of the random heroic? (assume you are saved as a result now)

As it works on the test realms right now, it's no different than if a group were to fall apart mid-run on the live realms today. If anyone leaves the group or gets kicked though, the leader will be asked if he or she wants to continue the instance. If the leader chooses to continue, the group will automatically be put back into the Dungeon System to find more members.

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Azhjuu

Executus

48. Re: Can you do the random daily with a non-pu 10/28/2009 01:25:05 PM PDT

Q u o t e:

As it works on the test realms right now, it's no different than if a group were to fall apart mid-run on the live realms today. If anyone leaves the group or gets kicked though, the leader will be asked if he or she wants to continue the instance. If the leader chooses to continue, the group will automatically be put back into the Dungeon System to find more members.

So will LFR be cross realm?

Eredain

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Anvilmar

49. Re: Can you do the random daily with a non-pu 10/28/2009 01:25:32 PM PDT

Q u o t e:

That's almost correct except for the third line (I've clarified this in my original post as well). If you complete the Daily Random Heroic dungeon for the day to earn two Emblems of Frost in addition to the Emblems of Triumph which drop off of each Heroic boss, you can continue to select the "Random" option for Heroics in the Dungeon System. Doing so will award you with two Emblems of Triumph upon completion of each dungeon in addition to the Emblems of Triumph which drop off of each Heroic boss.

Edit: In my first sentence I said "second line." I mean "third line." ;)

Maybe I missed it somewhere (couldn't find any mention of it in the patch notes), but will we be able to downgrade Emblems of Triumph at the vendors like all the other emblems with 3.3, in case we need a few of the lower level emblems for an item?

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Eamil

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Khadgar

50. Re: Can you do the random daily with a non-pu 10/28/2009 01:25:38 PM PDT

Q u o t e:
As it works on the test realms right now, it's no different than if a group were to fall apart mid-run on the live realms today. If anyone leaves the group or gets kicked though, the leader will be asked if he or she wants to continue the instance. If the leader chooses to continue, the group will automatically be put back into the Dungeon System to find more members.

Will the new members be warned, say, that they've been chosen to join a dungeon already in progress with X bosses dead and be given an option to join or wait for a fresh run?

Q u o t e:
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Eamil

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Khadgar

51. Re: Can you do the random daily with a non-pu 10/28/2009 01:26:51 PM PDT

Q u o t e:
Maybe I missed it somewhere (couldn't find any mention of it in the patch notes), but will we be able to downgrade Emblems of Triumph at the vendors like all the other emblems with 3.3, in case we need a few of the lower level emblems for an item?

You already can do this, just not at the normal emblem vendors. There's a "currency changer" goblin by the bank in the sewers in Dalaran that will downgrade Triumph to Conquest (as well as the other badge exchanges).

Q u o t e:
The bigger question is why those girls are out of the kitchen.

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Eredain

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Anvilmar

52. Re: Can you do the random daily with a non-pu 10/28/2009 01:27:42 PM PDT

Q u o t e:
You already can do this, just not at the normal emblem vendors. There's a "currency changer" goblin by the bank in the sewers in Dalaran that will downgrade Triumph to Conquest (as well as the other badge exchanges).

Thank you. I didn't know this.

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Minawa

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Alleria

54. Re: Can you do the random daily with a non-pu 10/28/2009 01:29:37 PM PDT

Q u o t e:
You already can do this, just not at the normal emblem vendors. There's a "currency changer" goblin by the bank in the sewers in Dalaran that will downgrade Triumph to Conquest (as well as the other badge exchanges).

Each emblem quartermaster allows you to downgrade your emblems. It's usually the very last item on the last page.

Eredain

< Hanshin >

Anvilmar

55. Re: Can you do the random daily with a non-pu 10/28/2009 01:31:43 PM PDT

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Each emblem quartermaster allows you to downgrade your emblems. It's usually the very last item on the last page.

Not the Triumph quartermaster in Dalaran, at least not in the Horde area. I assumed that was by design.

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Akvavit

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Bloodhoof

56. Re: Can you do the random daily with a non-pu 10/28/2009 01:36:10 PM PDT

Currently, to do the Normal Daily Dungeon, you do not actually have to run an instance on Normal difficulty. With the new system, will we also be able to only do Heroics, or will we need to run dungeons on Normal? If the latter, will level 80s be grouped with lower levels?

(Sorry if this has been addressed; I just skipped to the Blue posts.)

Belteshazzar

< Mutiny >

Ursin

57. Re: Can you do the random daily with a non-pu 10/28/2009 01:37:31 PM PDT

Q u o t e:

As it works on the test realms right now, it's no different than if a group were to fall apart mid-run on the live realms today. If anyone leaves the group or gets kicked though, the leader will be asked if he or she wants to continue the instance. If the leader chooses to continue, the group will automatically be put back into the Dungeon System to find more members.

Will a dungeon leader be given the option to continue the raid without adding more members? I've been in more than one pug where a problem child QQs and leaves, and the run goes a lot faster with the 4 than it did with the full 5.

Zarhym

Blizzard Poster

58. Re: Can you do the random daily with a non-pu 10/28/2009 01:38:55 PM PDT

Q u o t e:
How exactly do you know what the random heroic is? Or you just get awarded for the first random heroic you run as if it was the daily, no matter what random instance it is?

Yes, you get rewarded for completing the first Daily Random Heroic dungeon you do on any given day. It doesn't work like a quest anymore, so the choice will be random for each group formed through the selection of this option.

Q u o t e:
Do you get rewards for using the tool within your realm only or must you use the battlegroup search to be rewarded?

You can form a group of five players on your realm and then select the Daily Random Heroic dungeon through the Dungeon System tool. You will be rewarded just the same except for the fact that you will not get credit toward the pick-up group Achievement reward.

Q u o t e:
Can you decide if you want to look for people in your realm alone or the tool will just mix and match?

If you're looking for party members via the Dungeon System, it will always look for eligible characters queued within your Battlegroup. You will need to use the Looking For Group chat channel in a major city or form a group on your own terms if you want to keep the group confined to players on your own realm. This doesn't make you ineligible for the Daily Random dungeon rewards though.

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How is the gear requirement determined? is Blizzard implementing their own Gearscore?

The Dungeon System will make sure players are of the appropriate level, have the appropriate attunements for a dungeon (if applicable), and look at the average item level of each player. The system will put together a group according to the roles (tanking, healing, DPS) players have selected to fill and attempt to match characters as best as possible according to the items they have equipped.

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Zarhym

Blizzard Poster

59. Re: Can you do the random daily with a non-pu 10/28/2009 01:42:51 PM PDT

Q u o t e:
So will LFR be cross realm?

No, the LFR system will be for your realm only in patch 3.3.

Q u o t e:

Will the new members be warned, say, that they've been chosen to join a dungeon already in progress with X bosses dead and be given an option to join or wait for a fresh run?

Yes.

Q u o t e:

Maybe I missed it somewhere (couldn't find any mention of it in the patch notes), but will we be able to downgrade Emblems of Triumph at the vendors like all the other emblems with 3.3, in case we need a few of the lower level emblems for an item?

You can already downgrade Emblems of Triumph. That functionality will not be taken away in 3.3.

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